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	<title>Comments on: United States Government Unveils &#8216;TARP II: THE CURSE OF BERNANKE&#8217;S GOLD&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: denner</title>
		<link>http://wonkette.com/404601/united-states-government-unveils-tarp-ii-the-curse-of-bernankes-gold#comment-186271</link>
		<dc:creator>denner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are masters of Google image search and photoshop.  This image gets 10 Oscars and two Golden Globes.  And a Tony, for kicks...</description>
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		<title>By: WABishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>WABishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[re=185894]infowars[/re]: I know this is a little late in the posting cycle, and y&#039;all have moved on to kittens dressed as Hitler or some such thing, but this is important, so listen up:

Rachel Maddow used the same statistics on her show last night but it&#039;s a little misleading.  These numbers assume that dollars in the past are the same as dollars now, as long as they have been adjusted for the change in consumer prices in the mean time.  What this ignores is the society&#039;s actual ability to pay for something.  The Vietnam War, for example, was conducted in the context of a much smaller economy.  $111 billion in 1973 was a much bigger piece of the pie, and not all measures of long-term inflation account for that.  If we compare it to changes in the consumer price index (which follows the prices of common consumer items from month to month), $111 billion then is worth $517 billion now.  But, if we compare it to the value of work, by how much an unskilled worker makes then versus now, it is worth $486 billion.  And if we look at what share of the economy it represented then and apply it to today&#039;s economy, it&#039;s worth $1,108 billion.

When comparing by the relative size of the economy, you find out that Bill Gates is a piker compared to the rich of the past.  Rockefeller&#039;s $900 million in 1913 commanded far more of the economy than Gates&#039;s measly $57 billion ever did. 

This is a fascinating site if you like this sort of thing:
http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/
Wikipedia also has a great list of historical rich folk:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_wealthy_historical_figures</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[re=185894]infowars[/re]: I know this is a little late in the posting cycle, and y&#8217;all have moved on to kittens dressed as Hitler or some such thing, but this is important, so listen up:</p>
<p>Rachel Maddow used the same statistics on her show last night but it&#8217;s a little misleading.  These numbers assume that dollars in the past are the same as dollars now, as long as they have been adjusted for the change in consumer prices in the mean time.  What this ignores is the society&#8217;s actual ability to pay for something.  The Vietnam War, for example, was conducted in the context of a much smaller economy.  $111 billion in 1973 was a much bigger piece of the pie, and not all measures of long-term inflation account for that.  If we compare it to changes in the consumer price index (which follows the prices of common consumer items from month to month), $111 billion then is worth $517 billion now.  But, if we compare it to the value of work, by how much an unskilled worker makes then versus now, it is worth $486 billion.  And if we look at what share of the economy it represented then and apply it to today&#8217;s economy, it&#8217;s worth $1,108 billion.</p>
<p>When comparing by the relative size of the economy, you find out that Bill Gates is a piker compared to the rich of the past.  Rockefeller&#8217;s $900 million in 1913 commanded far more of the economy than Gates&#8217;s measly $57 billion ever did. </p>
<p>This is a fascinating site if you like this sort of thing:<br />
<a href="http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/" rel="nofollow">http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/</a><br />
Wikipedia also has a great list of historical rich folk:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_wealthy_historical_figures" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_wealthy_historical_figures</a></p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
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		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[re=186085]Sans the Diaper[/re]: Funny, I thought the same thing. Would we have to stand around in knickers and pose for portraits with arms akimbo?

On the other hand, if three-quarters of the state legislatures agree, we can take out the trash and flush the john.

Actually, we&#039;d probably have to replace the john. And the adjoining series of tubes. In Hazmat suits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[re=186085]Sans the Diaper[/re]: Funny, I thought the same thing. Would we have to stand around in knickers and pose for portraits with arms akimbo?</p>
<p>On the other hand, if three-quarters of the state legislatures agree, we can take out the trash and flush the john.</p>
<p>Actually, we&#8217;d probably have to replace the john. And the adjoining series of tubes. In Hazmat suits.</p>
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		<title>By: hobospacejungle</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobospacejungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[re=185854]AfghanVet[/re]: Afghan Vet for Treasury Secretary!!

Great explanation of how banks should operate &amp; how they failed. If some thing a bank does is not helping to produce some thing of value it should be outlawed. Anything else is gambling with other people&#039;s money and has nothing to do with capitalism. Rescind the bailouts, let them fail, cancel every credit default swap in existence and then outlaw this and all other gambling types of instruments.

[re=185977]null[/re]: New Constitutional Convention -- YES!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[re=185854]AfghanVet[/re]: Afghan Vet for Treasury Secretary!!</p>
<p>Great explanation of how banks should operate &amp; how they failed. If some thing a bank does is not helping to produce some thing of value it should be outlawed. Anything else is gambling with other people&#8217;s money and has nothing to do with capitalism. Rescind the bailouts, let them fail, cancel every credit default swap in existence and then outlaw this and all other gambling types of instruments.</p>
<p>[re=185977]null[/re]: New Constitutional Convention &#8212; YES!!</p>
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		<title>By: groove</title>
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		<dc:creator>groove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pulling up MS Paint right now so I can start printing out crude likenesses of cash. It&#039;s more convenient than going to the ATM and worth just as much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pulling up MS Paint right now so I can start printing out crude likenesses of cash. It&#8217;s more convenient than going to the ATM and worth just as much!</p>
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		<title>By: Sans the Diaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sans the Diaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[re=185977]null[/re]: New Constitutional Convention

Oh God.

Not another one.</description>
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<p>Oh God.</p>
<p>Not another one.</p>
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		<title>By: sati demise</title>
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		<dc:creator>sati demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[re=185984]null[/re]: yea, better pay off stuff before the prices &#039;adjust&#039; to the money supply.</description>
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