Tee hee, god knows what the Fox News programming must be like tonight, the night after a funeral for murdered soldiers, but apparently Bill O’Reilly has to go so far as to play “devil’s advocate” to suggest that “we can’t kill all the Muslims” — as in, that’s more or less what his guest’s argument would be. His guest is probably more accurate in a sense, however, since official U.S. anti-terrorism policy is still basically “run around the Middle East for 10-20 years and try to kill all the Muslims.” [YouTube]
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& I thought this would be a story about Bill O trying to assert a public option wasn’t popular. I must have mistaken him for someone else.
“Where are the Southern Baptist suicide bombers?” I don’t know; why don’t you ask the citizens of Oklahoma City, or doctors who perform a certain important medical procedure for women?
With all due respect to Lt. Col. Ralph Peters, I’d also point out that you never hear about Muslims bombing abortion clinics or causing 5 generations of conflict in Northern Ireland either, you racist asshole.
Jeebus H. Tap Dancing Christ on a Soda Cracker, what kind of whack job comes on tee vee and makes Shill O’Reilly look a like the Voice of Reason?!
The problem is not with Islam, Christianity, or Judaism. The problem is when you add the word “fundamentalist.” And that goes for all three.
To be fair to Lt. Col. Peters, if you’re a Southern Baptist and you feel like terrorizing people, you probably enlist.
If we can’t kill them all can we lock up the rest? And then there’s the Hindu extremists. Might as well add them to the list. Just to be safe we should make a big dome over the United States (including Hawaii & Alaska–the freak states) and just blow the rest of the world to hell.
We can’t run around the Middle East for 10-20 years trying to kill all the Muslims…
Even though he was just spitballing, O’Rielly is going to have to apologize to himself for going soft on terrorism.
[re=455553]Pilate[/re]: instead of terrorizing people I should have said “kicking some infidel ass.” And instead of “enlist,” probably “try to enlist” because our military is pretty good at keeping out the crazies (present newsworthy exception notwithstanding).
“Where are the Southern Baptist suicide bombers?”
Yeah, the Southern Baptists kind of lost their mojo after the whole civil rights thing.
Bill does seem marginalized.
Who cares what he thinks?
Next!
When did “Devil’s Advocate” come to mean “Person Who Uses Brain”?
The KKK were atheists. Also.
[re=455553]Pilate[/re]: I heart U
To paraphrase Ron White, it’s not WHAT fundamentalist religion is used to justify murder, it’s THAT fundamentalist religion is used to justify murder.
(self promotion alert) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUE65Lea6kQ
I play this game where I see how long I can watch a Bill or Glenn clip before the urge to throw my laptop out the window kicks in… seriously, I can’t watch more than 5-10 seconds, it’s too painful, I don’t know how you guys do it.
[re=455559]Potater[/re]: On Fox News, it has always meant that. I suspect Billo will get knocked over the head tonight by Murdoch.
Oh fucking Christ somebody assfuck that guy. WONKETTE GAY READERS: HEED THE CALL. The combination of these two may drive us liberal “straight” types to impotence. YOU SHOULD PAY ATTENTION— if we run out of lefty straights, the only gays left will be the repressed Catholic types. We all know where that goes.
[re=455556]Pilate[/re]: No, they keep the crazies out of the rank-and-file enlisted; officers, not so much. And when you get right down to it, if there was anybody sane in the Pentagon not too long ago, we wouldn’t be in half the international messes we’re in now.
And what makes a Lt. Colonel such a military expert? Aren’t there still shitloads of retired flag officers who whore around?
How long before O’Reilly has to apologize to Limbaugh?
[re=455572]chascates[/re]: Ralph’s got a lower hourly rate, I’d guess. If you want a former major general, well, those guys don’t even get out of bed for less than a corporate directorship.
Six months from now, when anything short of turning the Middle East into a giant pyramid of Muslim skulls will constitute appeasement to Fox News infotainment personalities…you can look back to where it all started.
I can’t believe they’d let people like “Lt. Col. Ralph Peters” speak for the military!
As an executive policy, they ought to outright ban any representative of the U.S. military make anti-Islamic comments in the media until they retire.
[re=455577]Aflac Shrugged[/re]: 9/12??
OK, the Ft. Hood massacre was terrorism. A muslim nutcase went on a violent rampage to prove some idiotic point. What does it matter if you call it terrorism? That is what is was, but these idiots can’t think through the other myriad facets involved. Just as they could never understand any terroristic act the good ol’ US gov’t has inflicted in the past. Will it make your simple minds feel better if you can blame it on Obama?
Next on O’Reilly…. Carrie Prejean talks about her sex tape and how the librul media is so mean to her.
Pizzuti – He’s retired, I know, because the 100%-always-accurate wikiridiculapedia entry told me so.
Cascates – exactly! O-5s not picked up for O-6 are spineless and disrepsected by their subordinates, in the eyes of their superiors.
[re=455550]JMP[/re]: No, no, no. Those folks are all lone wolves. They in no way represent a larger agenda being pushed by a radical religious movement. At all.
[re=455580]shortsshortsshorts[/re]: I think the wingnuts were originally cool with letting *some* Muslims survive. Like if they had a lot of money, or could play a professional sport, for example.
[re=455550]JMP[/re]: And the methodist market place bombers are in….
wait for it…..
…..bombers
market place go boom.
According to the UN, and United States doctrine, an act of terror is committed against civilians to create an atmosphere of terror.
Acts of violence against soldiers are acts of war, not terrorism. However in this case, it’s not an act of war, since it’s a fragging. I’m guessing the term for an officer murdering enlisted soldiers on native soil is ‘Treason’. In any case, definitely not terrorism.
These guys don’t read anything do they?
“We can’t kill all the Muslims.” What is the force of that “can’t”? “Can’t in good conscience?” or “Just can’t do it, there aren’t enough bullets”?
[re=455585]skutre[/re]: “And the methodist market place bombers are in….
wait for it…..…..bombers.”–Perfect.
My television just told me that some horrifying program on the teevee is going to have Levi Johnston and Jon Gosselin talking to each other. This is some kind of experimental art in awkward bro-ness?
[re=455564]keglined[/re]:
Nice vid, great work.
Peters, who is a novelist, essayist and military expert, enlisted in 1976 and spent his service in Germany in “military intelligence.” So he knows Muslims.
After he left the Factor, Peters went home to write his acceptance speech in the hopes of winning at the upcoming People Who’ve Been In the Military But Have Never Been in Combat But Nonetheless Bill Themselves as Military Experts So They Feel Qualified to Spout Vile Evil Shit About Every War Everywhere and Who Also Manage to Lie Whenever They Open Their Goddammed Lying Mouths Awards.
It’s anticipated that he’ll sweep, although the competition is strong.
The prize is the coveted Spooge-Filled Used Condom statue, made out of 100%, American-grown, genuine US chickenhawk.
Because Peters knows his shit.
So O’Reilly thinks we can’t systematically kill every single Muslim out there? He must be really proud of himself for emboldening our enemies. I mean, hell — what’s the use of having more weapons than the next twenty most militaristic countries in the world combined if we can’t commit flagrant acts of genocide? It’s almost like he hates America.
[re=455589]PerhapsSo[/re]: Maybe this is some new kinda art form.
[re=455584]Aflac Shrugged[/re]: Or would let them visit their desert boytoy paradises.
[re=455550]JMP[/re]: To be fair, the citizens of OKC certainly don’t think of Tim McVeigh as one of their own. Not that he wasn’t; they just don’t see it that way. He had a hard-on for some OTHER Jeebus. They’re much more into the C-Street, God-wants-us-all-to-be-hedge-fund-managers kind of messiah.
[re=455550]JMP[/re]: Additionally, what was the religion of the guy who gunned down an office in Orlando THE EXACT SAME DAY? Funny how that never got discussed either.
[re=455593]Aurelio[/re]: Relational Asshativism?
[re=455586]Aurelio[/re]: “Can’t” as in impossible/unfeasible.
Bill: Let’s suppose, for the sake of an argument – just tossing ideas against the wall here – let’s suppose that we were logistically unable to put a bullet in the head of every person of Islamic faith. Where do we go from here?
Lt. Col. Peters: Bill, I don’t even want to THINK about that kind of scenario. It’s just too awful to contemplate.
Is Peters a castrati? It sounds like it.
[re=455585]skutre[/re]: The same thing happened back in ’00, when attacking a US-flagged vessel of war became “terrrrrism”
Here, I’ll make Lt. Col Peters happy: Terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, and- in conclusion- TERRORISM.
There, somebody mentioned terrorism
[re=455599]Zadig[/re]: The monstrous horror here is that even without things like neutron bombs, beam weapons, modern biochemicals, Spectre gunships, metal storm weapons and surrogates without conscience, about sixty years ago one little European country managed to target and kill millions and millions and millions and millions and more of their enemies. I strongly suspect if someone somehow conjured up the will to actually say “Kill _all_ the Muslims” we have the resources to do it.
[re=455601]momus[/re]: It’s a side effect of his testicles receding into his body at the very thought of being a real soldier instead of a chickenhawk pencil pusher.
[re=455551]Prof. Junk[/re]: what I like about you, is that you’re respectful
I fuckin hate Ralph Peters. Please just try to keep the Peters down.
[re=455589]PerhapsSo[/re]: I’ve already seen that movie. It’s called The Falcon and the Snowman.
Soooooo any guesses who’ll be Olbermann’s worst person in the world tomorrow night?
I guess Bill is upping his racism game since Beck’s cult has amped his ratings.
Sounds like FoxNews and the other rightwing hate-clowns need to send a Thank You card and maybe some flowers to Nidal Halik Hasan for making their dreams come true. Is it me or is Lt. Col Peters and Billo a little to excited and happy about all this?
[re=455564]keglined[/re]: On the video, very good point. I realized you could have went on and on after that . BTW who does the soundtrack to video?
It is a vexing problem about the mooslims. If only there were some sort of solution that could provide a feeling of finality…
[re=455585]skutre[/re]: Yeah, but they’re not SUICIDE bombers. Look at Eric Rudolph; sure, he blew up a bunch of abortion clinics, gay bars and Olympics fans (still not sure what the fuck was up with that one), but he lived to blow up another day. And kept hidden for years with help from a bunch of supporters, but he was just a single, lone bad apple.
[re=455597]rottenart[/re]: Why would his religion be relevant? He was just a typical disgruntled worker, while Ft. Hod was an army base attacked by an officer who had been assigned to that base…
“We can’t run around the Middle East for 10-20 years trying to kill all the Muslims…”
And when your fears subside
And shadows still remain
I know that you can draft me
When there’s no one left to blame
So never mind the darkies
We still can fight away
‘Cause nothin’ lasts forever
Even Camovember rain…
[re=455616]Mr Blifil[/re]: You’re in luck. I think they used to call it evacuation, back in the day. [/Godwin]
[re=455619]JMP[/re]: Yeah, you’re right. I guess I was just trying to point out that these two guys were pushed to the limit by life circumstances, not by religion.
This guys said it better.
[re=455589]PerhapsSo[/re]: I suppose that will be followed by a rebuttal from Kate, Carrie Prejean and the Octomom.
[re=455623]rottenart[/re]: I know; just was trying to say that more sarcastically. The Orlando shooter was, I believe, Catholic; but there’s never been any Catholic terrorists, oh no, and certainly none that the families some of the Irish kids I knew growing up actually supporter, and bragged about sending money too.
A comment on this sotry from HuffPo:
The US is to blame for giving so many visas to terrorists.
No other country is this stupid.
[re=455593]Aurelio[/re]: [re=455598]rottenart[/re]: [re=455613]NYNYNY[/re]: I think it is a sign of the end of all culture and possibly the apocalpyse. Some googling reveals that they met in Times Square and wore peacoats. *shudder*
I hate when a Perfect Good Idea gets ruined by a narrowness of vision.
:::Sniff:::
“[R]un around the Middle East for the next 10-20 years and kill EVERYBODY.”
Let’s face it: Can anyone REALLY tell the difference between the Arabs, Persians, Israelis, Coptics, Kurds, Turkmen, etc., etc., etc.?
Nuke ‘em all, I say.
And after we get done in the Middle East, we can use the leftover warheads on everyone south of the Mason-Dixon line. Including Orange County, California.
[re=455626]JMP[/re]: Some Lohans should also be involved.
I think the real story here is that Ng’s plan is to do nothing because it’s not important to be perfect.
[re=455554]chascates[/re]: “Just to be safe we should make a big dome over the United States …” A dome? Geez, Chas, Tancredo is going to be pissed about you one-upping his bullet-proof border fence.
[re=455578]Pizzuti[/re]: “…they ought to outright ban any representative of the U.S. military make anti-Islamic comments in the media until they retire.” Great idea, except we’d have to endure another round of Miss California misinterpreting the First Amendment.
I think we’re all overlooking the important point here: Bill O’Reilly said something reasonable, perhaps even intelligent. Sure, he might have blown it all later after the end of this clip, I don’t know, but for a brief shining moment he was right on.
I remember, vaguely, back when I was a young lad, or maybe this is actually historical, I don’t know, some southern politician issued the statement “We have to recognize that nigras are people, too.” Something like that. Anyway, he drew flak from the left for casual racism, and outrage from the right for suggesting such a thing.
Come into the light, Bill. You could be the George Wallace of our generation.
[re=455635]Jukesgrrl[/re]: Either way we’ll need illegals to build it.
[re=455638]gurukalehuru[/re]: One problem with being the George Wallace of idiot blowhards would be convincing his cohorts that he actually said it; then convincing them he actually meant it; then convincing them he didn’t take it back right afterwards; and finally convincing them he wasn’t some sort of liberal sleeper agent from the beginning.
[re=455632]Neilist[/re]: The Mason Dixon line does not extend all the way across the United States, it stops at Ohio.
Think of it like an asscrack, separating the southern buttcheek (Joe the Plumber, an inability to speak proper English, racism) from its northern brother (Joe Lieberman, an inability to speak proper English, the fucking Patriots).
In between, of course, you have a fever swamp and a giant asshole (Washington DC).
1-in-4 people in the world are muslims, believe me if Islam was at war with us the world would look like Somalia.
[re=455646]I-man[/re]: What are you doing here, Mr. Lieberman?
[re=455561]Prof. Junk[/re]: “The KKK were atheists. Also.”
Where in the world did you hear that? Though their ideology wasn’t directly based off of religion, these fuckers, in practice, were about as Protestant extremists as any hate group you’ll ever find.
[re=455550]JMP[/re]: Southern Baptists used to be into lynching in a big way. They used to lynch Catholics like O’Reilly. They’ve given it up lately.
[re=455555]WadISay[/re]: What does he think the US government has been doing the last 20-30 years?
[re=455561]Prof. Junk[/re]: No they weren’t. They defended (and still do defend) the Protestant religion just as eagerly as they did the White race. Look up maps showing where the KKK was strong, where the different religious sects are strong, and where lynchings were most popular before they went out of fashion in the ’60s. You can judge for yourself which churches likely provided most KKK members. Also remember that the Southern Baptists explicitly taught White Supremacy, right up until I first encountered them in the early 1970s.
Has anyone asked Baby Maddie’s opinion on this issue yet?
[re=455586]Aurelio[/re]: The latter, you can be sure.
[re=455584]Aflac Shrugged[/re]: Well, Anne Coulter wants to convert them. Imagine: Anne Coulter, Missionary!!
[re=455664]LowerdPeninsula[/re]: [re=455667]zhubajie[/re]: Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. Hence the big fat flaming “Also.”
[re=455591]Katydid[/re]: When I was in the US Navy, we had the plexiglass belly button, for people who had their heads up their asses, so that they could see where they were going.
[re=455619]JMP[/re]: In other words, Fort Hod was attacked by a disgruntled worker.
Re Baptist suicide bombers, haven’t these guys heard of Oliver Cromwell, Baptist dictator of Britain and the colonies, mid 1600s? The guy who massacred Irish Catholics by the tens of thousands? Sold tens of thousands more into slavery in the West Indies?
[re=455630]PerhapsSo[/re]: I’m sure that you can find a gross of end-times prophecy sites detailing how this is part of the Apocalypse.
[re=455674]zhubajie[/re]: He also banned Christmas. For his efforts, they’ve built a big statue of him next to the visitors’ entrance to Parliament.
[re=455635]Jukesgrrl[/re]: Members of the military used to avoid all political statements. Period.
[re=455642]Pilate[/re]: That’s quite a picture. Perhaps Joe Wilson would be willing to donate his ass for a more graphic demonstration. He must be jonesing to get back on TV.
[re=455677]zhubajie[/re]: And now generals use prime-time TV and newspaper interviews to give the president advice on how to do his job, before they even bother to brief him in person. Isn’t that how MacArthur got into his tangles with Truman? What’s next, a McChrystal Twitter page?
[re=455676]Hello Sunshine[/re]: Yes, Indeed. O’Reilly ought to be reminded of that,too.
You know, all this FOX news and Pat Robertson persecute the muslims stuff is part of why I think the US is heading towards some kind of civil strife. The people who want to kill muslims want to kill gays and liberals and immigrant and… too. Most of their intended victims will fight back, and you have some kind of civil war. Not like the 1860s, except maybe in Missouri-Kansasa, Jayhawkers and Bushwhackers robbing and murdering each other. I hope I’m wrong, but rising anger and mass gun ownership (and big gun buying) don’t sound like peace is on the way.
[re=455670]zhubajie[/re]: You said “Imagine,” “Anne Coulter” and “missionary,” all in the same sentence. The blame for these dry heaves is yours.
[re=455642]Pilate[/re]: Well, I did not know that about the Mason-Dixon line stopping in Ohio. I learned something on Wonkette that I can repeat at the dinner table. Only not the vividly obscene aide-memoire bit, because this is Wonkette, after all.
[re=455685]zhubajie[/re]: The people who want to kill muslims want to kill gays and liberals and immigrant and … Mormons, Jews, Catholics, scientists, nonpregnant women, nonAryans, anyone with an IQ over 25… Oh, Hell, the list goes on forever. That’s a pit with no bottom. Also. Too.
[re=455676]Hello Sunshine[/re]: An early warrior in the war against christmas. Does Mr Falafel know about this?
[re=455667]zhubajie[/re]: Lynching went out of fashion in the ’30s. There were VERY few lynchings in the ’50s and ’60s. Lynching fell off rapidly after 1930, not coincidentally as radio became popular. People who get all nostalgic for “community” (aka hangin’ out on the corner with your friends) should remember that no TV-addled, cocooning suburbanite has ever lynched anyone OR rioted.
[re=455696]Lazy Media[/re]: Well if that’s true, how come I feel like stretchin Billo’s neck?
well yes, I suppose an act which puts terror in its victims DOES, under ALL circumstances, equal terrorism, even if there are no ties between the incident and a terrorist group. And muslins are responsible for ALL the bad things now. Including the crusades, I would assume. Oh and the Matthew Shepard killing – yup, Muslins did that, it had nothing to do with crazy extremist Christians. Columbine – oh I’m sure those boys were Muslins. (And I’m sure their religion had just as much to do with their shooting spree as this army doctor’s religion had to do with his.) All those cults with mass murders/child rapes/suicides, etc, those are all MUSLIN cults aren’t there! They’re never Christian cults. There are never groups of polygamous Christians, or groups that marry 9 year old girls. Those are all muslins too. Oh and you know those people who like to go blow up abortion clinics and doctors, with their bombs and such? Well THEY must be Muslins – they used bombs! Yup, the problem here is obviously the Muslins.
[re=455674]zhubajie[/re]: The good old Lord Protector. And of course, shortly before that the Catholic terrorist Guy Fawkes could’ve have been the world’s first suicide bomber, if he hadn’t gotten caught first.
[re=455671]Potater[/re]: Do people’s sarcasm detectors stop working around 3AM? Or drunkenness may help.
Morning Wonkette, where are you? I’ve just been watching this video on repeat since 8:30.
Say, Bill. Why don’t you and Ralph Malph go to Muslinian and show us all how to fight’em. We’ll follow. We swear! Not really.
“we can’t kill all the Muslims”
That didn’t stop the Bush Admin from trying, tho. Things are bad enough on the right I’ll give BillO half points for a) being arithmetically realistic and b) learning from others’ mistakes.
[re=455591]Katydid[/re]: Agreed. Personally, I never miss the PWBITMBHNBCBNBTAMESTFQTSVESAEWEAWAMTLWTOTGLMAs!
[re=455554]chascates[/re]: Wait, isn’t Hawaii really part of Kenya?
Well, we can’t kill all the Muslims, but we could kill all the pseudo-journalists like O’Reilly. Should be enough bullets for that…
WE’LL KILL ‘EM LIVE, FUCK IT! WE’LL KILL ‘EM LIVE!
We may not be able to kill ‘em all but we can sure maim up a bunch of the motherfuckers!!!
[re=455550]JMP[/re]: WIN!
Isn’t there supposed to be a “(Ret.)” after this idiot’s name? He probably doesn’t think the Federal government should be providing health care, either. Unless you’ve been in the military, of course.
[re=455696]Lazy Media[/re]: Lynching was/is about terror. Just like killing abortion doctors, you you only need to off a few to make your point.
The purpose for the trillions of dollars we’re borrowing to dump into the toilet, er, Bush’s two wars, never did make sense. Until now. Thanks for cleaning that up, Jim.
clearing that up. Shit. I hate typos. And proofreading.
I just watched the thing. Methodists? How the fuck did we get into this? And if you live in the Bible Belt, those Southern Baptists damn sure look like terrorists when they send their army of fundamentalistbots to the polls to vote for douches like Spooky Doktor Tom.
[re=455697]vladster[/re]: Hanging is now a horizontal activity, with the rope attached to a truck bumper instead of a rafter or tree limb.
[re=455582]keglined[/re]: Quite right, if you get dumped at O-5 it’s cuz the brass and senior NCO’s consider you night-manager-at-Dairy-Queen material. Fox really dissed O’Reilly by not hiring at least a brigadier general to play straight man.
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