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I'll be there. Shots in Solidarity at Irish Times after!

Nice work Adam! I'll rally for you in NYC if you put out the call.The Silent Marine, very nice and the not so secret, secret to many a great star from Bill Hart to Gary Cooper to John Wayne.
Kansas City is going to rock.

There's alot of things I'll do for the cause, mi amigos. But taking a bus ain't one of them. Anyone willing to take my "We Support Our Possibly Dishonorably Discharged Troops" gift basket to KC though?

making him go to kansas city is punishment enough. fuck.

maybe i'll wander down to canal and see if the chinatown bus can take me there.

But will Intrepid Girl Reporter Liz Gorman be taking pictures of said Marine's sweater puppies? Anonymous Lobbyist won't show 'em, but maybe dear Sgt. Adam will...

Just sayin'

i looked back at the old posts and saw that 'kindofabigdeal' asked how long it would be until he was swift-boated

answer: a little over a month

If he didn't have that pesky press conference (with its probable requirement of not looking like a Grade A lush), I'd suggest send-off drinkage. Boy's goin' to KC. On a bus. No one should havt to face that sober.

"Muzzle"?

"Honorable discharge"?

I'm waiting boys and girls, just waiting...

I'm ready to fellate the good Sgt. as a send-off. Anything for the cause!

So, does this mean the terrorists have actually won? They do hate our freedoms, you know. Next up, all woman should really be covered since exposed hair and flesh lead to all sorts of "Loud and Boisterous" activities.
GO Adam Kokesh!!!!

What are the odds that his hearing will be deemed classified? Forget DC or KC, I'm going to Vegas.

Don't forget; the terrorists hate us for our freedom...

Please keep in mind that in no way is anyone in the military ever subjected to a conformity of thinking vis a vis a certain political party that might be construed as being akin to brain washing.

Right Chief Pain?

Anyway, this isn't brain washing, it's extortion.

I fully expect the D.C. bear mafia to rush to the aid of this be-gunned and bearded example of prime American male. Given the number of Dirk Yates pornos in video collections across our capital city, I have no doubt that young Adam will rally the gay agenda to his cause. Oh Sully, where are you when your people need you?

The Corps should be ashamed of itself.

Particularly the Gutless General Staff Officers who refused to "Just Say No" to an AWOL Texas Air National Guard pilot, and who let the Macs and Mollys for which they are legally and morally responsible get killed and wounded as a result.

Time to change the motto: "Semper Fucked Up."

@YourDoctrinaire:

For some reason my giveaway gift basket doesn't sound as good. :(

Liz: Tell dreamboat Adam that coverage will skyrocket if he'll do some artistic poses.

Please? I'll beg.

i should totally send him like ten million comment invites until he visits us again! for, um, the betterment of america and our freedoms and stuff.

After reading that letter I am writing Mr. Homofascist Kokesh all over my Trapper Keeper.

Sigh...

(I was going to write something cruder related to "back door draft", but I resisted).

I'm waiting for some other nation to bring democracy to us here in the U.S., then Adam can exercise his rights to free speech.

Out with the old (Cindy Sheehan & Rosie O' Donnell) in with the new (Andy Kokesh & Raffah the Mouse). They will make a nice team. Sleep overs galore.

-T.H.H.E. Cat

Semper Fi, Marine. The Corps should be ashamed of itself.

@TrappedinLA: Amen! I want a ticket to THAT gun show!

Kokesh is a HOTTIE.

The inevitable swiftboating of Marine Sgt. Adam Kokesh is just the war-hawk's way of saying they have a crush on him.

Pssst, Adam,

Do you like me? Check one: Yes [_] No [_]

-Matt Drudge

SgtKokesh says: And I'm still looking for my plus one.

*sigh* I'm right here, sweetie!

JamieSommers, you prophetess, ask and you shall receive. Although I'd rethink the "salivation in moderation" concept for this occasion.

I would blow Adam in full public view at any Washington Monument at noon during the height of the tourist season WITHOUT my sunglasses on.

Name the place Sweetie and I'll be there.

xo

Hmmmmmmmmm... Maybe he'd discharge honorably all over my face?

@homofascist:

I admire your restraint. I wish I shared it.

I am sure there are a lot of people who would be willing to face his "dishonorable discharge."

What? What'd I say?

George Bush Hates Us Because of Our Freedom.

Kansas City?!
By bus?!
That's 18 hours by car!!!
Talk about torture and cruel and unusual...
Alberto, you running this show?!

Some shit about wearing a uniform without authorization and "responding to a superior officer with an obscenity". Getting my cameras ready. Hope it's someplace I can get near with cameras. (I will need help getting pics onto Wonkette.) Marine Corps won't even tell the local press when the hearing is!

Maybe Sgt. Kokesh should answer "I don't recall" to all questions during his hearing.
The strategy worked wonders for the nation's chief law enforcement officer. He still has a job.
His performance won high praise from his boss, the US Commander in Chief.

Hopefully, in forty years the Corps will have the courage to look back on this shameful little episode and award Adam full honors. Until then, the blowjobs and free drinks of the online community will have to do.

Hey, Terry, where are you! Our favorite Marine beefcake is having dibs counted on him on this site by the gays! (no offense guys, I just want equal time! and I do respect Homofascists' reserve). The only other verifiable chickadee here besides me and Ms. Pony is Liz... unless I have read names/responses wrong...

Seriously, Mr. Hunk Adam needs our support... I'm too far away from (shudder) DC and Kansas (double shudder) to help... I can't believe the military is so afraid of one (ooh, good-looking) man, age 25, that they won't let him enjoy his right to speech. When did this travesty of justice start?

Is this Wonkette, or Wankette? Cold showers, everyone.
P.S. What, nobody has made a crack about a drill sergeant yet?

You probably couldn't see it, but I just stood up from my keyboard in my boxer shorts and gave Wonkette a standing ovation for that well written, passionate story.
No snarkiness here, that was brilliantly written.
Thank you.
Please take a virtual bow, you have earned it this time!

This really, really pisses me off. While a Marine, he served honorably; while a civilian, he took advantage of the very freedoms he fought for.

And, he's undeniably hot.

Flag banned s-word; two above.

Adam is on his way soon to Kansas, help him get there!!!! Us vets are pretty broke anyway but this is an extreme cirCUMstance! (that's subliminal messaging, did it work?!!!)
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@SGTJen: If I send a donation, will he send me a cock shot?

WHAT? It doesn't hurt to ask.....

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation/washingt...

Here is the closest thing I can give you.........its good though.

@SGTJen: Nice of you. I'm pitching in.

I created a comprehensive website about the antics of Matt Sanchez, the porn actor and former (?) prostitute whose history was revealed after he accepted an award from the wingnut CPAC in March. Along the way, I got an in-depth education about military law. Parts of Sgt. Kokesh's story raise questions.

First, a minor detail. His site refers to Kokesh as a member of the "Inactive Ready Reserve." I believe (but could be wrong) that the Marine Corps uses the term "Individual Ready Reserve" to describe people who've completed active duty and have no obligation other than to report address changes to the military in case they are called back.

Second, I believe an IRR member such as Kokesh (and Sanchez, by the way) is legally a civilian, and as such not subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice for anything he does. If there's a UCMJ provision that governs the wearing of military uniforms by IRR members, I'd like to know what it is.

Third, the Marine Corps did not "prosecute" Kokesh, as his website claimed. There is a bright-line distinction in military law between prosecution and administrative actions; the former can bring punitive sanctions such as imprisonment, while the latter cannot.

Kokesh's website does not detail the "plea bargain" he said he was offered, or the legal basis for the Marine Corps' move to discharge him from the IRR on an OTH basis. Server space is so cheap as to be free, so I wish Sgt. Kokesh would publish all of the correspondence between himself and the Marine Corps, and that his lawyer would state the specific regulation that Kokesh is said to have violated. And I'd like to know what IRR stands for with respect to the Marine Corps.

Please don't assume that, by posting these questions, I either support or oppose Kokesh. In fact, I have mixed feelings about the case. But, before I state an opinion, I'd really like to get more accurate, detailed information.

@Princess Sparkle Pony: I'm with you, sister.

@SGTJen: The check's in the mail.

@homofascist: That's the problem with America today - settling for less than the ideal. Still, though...

I went to Adam's college and I think everyone should go to KC and yell WOOOOOO!!! Seriously. Do it now.

I am disgusted and not surprised at all. This is my first visit to your site and I have to say that I got what I expected. The fact that "your team" utilizes an audition/approval process for posters is nothing more than censorship. I did not read one post above that even entertained the the fact that there is another side to the subject. In fact, the comments above show that many of those who frequent this piece of shit site are sophmoric at best. Apparently, the overwhelming desire to perform fellatio prevents them from educating themselves before posting their factless crap.
1. Your posterchild was not, I repeat not discharged. He was released from active duty and still has an obligation. There is a big difference. A DD214 is not a discharge certificate. He knew when he enlisted that he was subject to an eight year obligation. This was implemented in 1984, not by Rumsfeld. I.R.R. service personnel are aware that they may be called to serve at any time for any reason while in an inactive status and that they are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
2. He was released from active duty as a Corporal; not a Sergeant.
3. Telling a Marine officer(s) to "fuck off" is considered disrespect under Article 89 of the U.C.M.J. whether it is to his/her face or via e-mail.
4. While in the I.R.R., participating in political activism while wearing uniform articles is prohibited. Even if his name tapes were removed it is still a breach because of his status.
5. In actuality, your masterbation fantasy boy is lucky that there are not other offenses included in the separation hearing.

Never mind the facts though

Well, at least some of the commenters here on Wonkette still want to do anything they can to Support Our Troops!

Yellow Elephant,
Not knowing you, it is impossible for me to interpret your post. If you are attempting to imply that my earlier post was "anti-troop"; you couldn't be further from the truth. I am a former Marine, my wife is a Marine, my nephew is a Marine currently in Iraq for the second time and most of my friends are Marines who have been in the Iraq theater at least one tour, most of them twice.
My comments were driven by the misinformation being spewed here and many sympathetic media outlets. I am disgusted that this person has chosen activism over fulfilling his responsibilities. Just because he served in Iraq does not allot him supreme moral authority to conduct himself in a manner which contradicts his obligation to live within the perameters of the UCMJ.
He has stated that he still loves the Marine Corps yet he signed his disrespectful e-mail (telling the Major to "fuck off") with the designation of PFC. This of course represents Proud Fucking Civilian vice Private First Class.
The Marine Corps shouldn't be ashamed of their proceedings. He should be ashamed of his behavior.

@jarheadforever: If I send you a donation to continue your work reading this sophmoric site, will you send me a cock shot? Or your wife's cock shot, either way. Thanxxx!

jarheadforever-

My post was not commenting on your post in any way, shape or form. Let's leave it at that.

However, and with all due respect, the Marine Corps is quite wrong on this, even if, technically, they may have the legal right to do so.

As a member of the IRR, Kokesh is not part of a unit, does not train and receives no pay. The Marine Corps knew his current contact information. I fail to see what "responsibilities" Kokesh did not fulfill.

The idea that IRR members can be subjected to the UCMJ for lawful exercise of their First Amendment rights is, frankly, chilling.

I mean, if everyone in the IRR is subject to the UCMJ, we should be seeing a lot more investigations and prosecutions of ordinary crimes committed by recent veterans. Instead, I think that the military allows local authorities to exercise primary jurisdiction, and in the case of Kokesh, no jurisdiction at all.

Homofascist;
If anything, you prove my point about many of the posters on this site. You crossed the line commenting about my wife and I won't stoop to your level. Enough said.

Yellow Elephant;
I beg to differ! As a member of the IRR, he is part of a unit. He has a Commanding General, a Sergeant Major and administrative personnel responsible for maintaining his records. He can check out MCIs, gain retirement points towards a reserve retirement, go on active duty (ADSW) and even get promoted if he chooses to work towards it. He is also subject to an annual administrative screening. As far as his responsibilities, I addressed that earlier. When he enlisted, he did so knowing that he had an eight year obligation. He could have remained on active duty for the entirety or split that time between active, active reserve and/or inactive reserve. It is an individual decision. Regardless, even while in an inactive status (IRR) he is subject to the UCMJ.

Yes, he was exercising his free speech rights but in an illegal fashion. DOD regulations prohibit the use of uniform items while participating in political activism. He received a warning after the mock patrol as did others. Unfortunately, he made a personal decision to defy the warning.

No jurisdiction? His Commanding General has jurisdiction because he presides over the IRR. Get it? His offenses were not ordinary crimes. Local authorities/municipalities don't have jurisdiction in UCMJ matters unless it is also a crime within their boundaries (theft, DUI, etc.). Disrespect towards a superior commissioned officer and utilizing military uniform items while participating in a public display of dissent was and should have been addressed as they were.

@jarheadforever: Whatevs. Homofascist4Ever.

There are some pretty glaring misunderstandings going on here.

As an IRR memeber, he has no "discharge status". One isn't discharged until the end of one's statutory commitment. For example, while I originally enlisted for 4 years and extended that active service time for 2 more to 6 years, I wasn't discharged until the end of the 8 years' liability I had signed for upon enlistment. So it isn't about "changing" anything, it's about a guy under the UCMJ breakig the law and being punished accordingly

If nothing else, just wandering around in BDUs in downtown DC is punishable. BDUs are to be worn only on active duty, on a military base or heading between active duty and home.

All that said, I now want to see EVERY uniformed service member loitering around Move America Forward rallies or the Republican National Convention jacked up. It is expressly forbidden for servicemembers to attend political rallies in uniform. Fair is fair...

jarheadforever-

Whatever.

I can tell you that Operation Yellow Elephant is considering stopping its efforts to encourage real Americans eligible to serve who support the war to consider joining the Marine Corps.

After all, if the Marine Corps has enough time, energy and, most of all, Marines to CHOOSE to generate free publicity for Adam Kokesh and Iraq Veterans Against the War, then they clearly don't need any help from real Americans.

Frankly, accepting that what Kokesh did is a violation, etc., it's still rather dumb for them to pursue it.

And the fact that they "pussed out" and didn't even bother to recommend an OTH basically proves the point.

jarheadforever-

Here's the actual correspondence. Assuming that the stated facts are true, including Reenlistment Code 4 [ineligible], it's a major stretch for the Marine Corps to bother with this.

See for yourself: http://www.ivaw.org/node/639

Yellow Elephant;
Now that I've discovered your agenda, I will save my energy trying to explain anything to you. After reading your "overview" on another site, I know for a fact that neither of us will ever give an inch. So I will continue to be an angry, white, warmonger and you will remain a liberal. God bless America.
As my father always told me: It takes all kinds.

Fight Back;
Maybe the Marine Corps should have taken a different approach to his illegal transportation of a firearm from Iraq to the United States. If so, maybe they could have just given him a BCD and/or incarcerated him rather than reduce him and restrict him from redeployment.

@jarheadforever: Dear Mr. and Mrs. Jarheadforever, this is really very much like the old Gary Larson cartoon, Blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, fuck off, blah blah blah,blah,blah, masturbatory fantasy boy,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah blah,blah,blah,blah.
This is wonkette, use some common sense.Tell us how you keep your shoes so shiny or discuss Jeff Gannon.

102415;
One aspect of common sense is to educate yourself prior to opening your trap. My posts have been an attempt to inform those whose interpretation of the Kokesh situation was based on a misdirected slant of information towards the First Amendment vice disrespect. I don't recall any reference to Jeff Gannon. So......blah, blah, blow it out your ass.

P.S.: The secret to the shoe shine is adding a little cologne to the water. Shine away.

@jarheadforever: Try taking your own advice and blow it out your own ass.
Jeff Gannon may, as I recall, have worn parts of his uniform on his sex website but then he is one of the pro Bush types and a journalist! So maybe that doesn't count in this discussion of uniform wearing political sex stars, but thanks for the shoe shine tip. My own favorite and very brave Marine had very shinny shoes and we always wondered how he did it.

jarheadforever is correct about the regulations. I looked into this one closely, and while I'm not a lawyer I think the USMC is on pretty solid legal ground under DoD Directives 1332.14 and 1334.01. There is a good argument the other way that essentially boils down to selective enforcement. Here is my complete devil's advocate argument in favor of Kokesh:

[www.militarytimes.com]

For me, the bottom line is that I'm on the USMC's side of this one, with some reservations about selective enforcement. I think the deciding factor for me is the utter disrespect that Kokesh showed to the Marine Corps. Not in his protest, but in his correspondence.

I appreciate Kokesh's service and I respect and agree with with antiwar views. But, in view of the way he dealt with the USMC, it's hard for me to have too much sympathy for him in the uniform case.

Last time I checked, wich was May 2006 when I retired from the Marine Corps, the "boonie cover", which Sgt. Kokesh was seen wearing is not an oficially authorized uniform item, despite the EGA, so the DOD directives 1332.14 and 1334.01 do no apply.