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Oh, it has been a busy week in Deleted Comments land! Thanks to our switchover to Disqus, the comments are a bit more Wild West-y than they had been -- in Olden times, new commenters had to be approved, but now, Yr Moderators have to patrol the dusty streets and clear them of miscreants who shamble into view. Happily, you Wonkers are all deputized to help us keep our comments section a happy Radical Liberal Secularist Leftist Libunatic playground as well, via the "flag" option that appears when you move your mouse over any comment, like so:


That will flag the comment for moderators, who'll decide whether to keep or delete the thing. (Not that we would ever delete that comment right there -- OR WOULD WE?? -- we're just showing the flag, as it were).

And so, let us sift through the refuse bin and see what got hauled off this week! Among the first recipients of a tap from the Banhammer of Loving Correction (as ever, we must credit John Scalzi for that name) was a dude calling himself "Wayne," who treated us, in a discussion of Pat Robertson and Facebook Ultrasound Witchcraft, to some excellent debating skills when someone dared to say that Rev. Robertson's fears about demons getting ahold of your babbies through Facebook were "twaddle." We will summarize; actual quotes from Wayne are in italics:

Sane person: What a load of twaddle.

Wayne: Why do you call it twaddle? Can you PROVE it's twaddle? Show your sources! So none of you can prove what at said is twaddle, yet you're all willing to call it that. Interesting, but pathetic.

Sane person: It's twaddle because demons don't exist.

Wayne: "Demons don't exist" Prove your claim.

Sane person: Oh lord, you're seriously going there, aren't you?

Wayne: You didn't prove Demons do not exist you claimed they do not exist. Claiming something is not the same as proving it. I can claim Germs do not exist, how does my claim make Germs suddenly disappear, hence your claim that Demons does not exist do not automatically mean they do not in fact exist. You should either show they do not exist or show their existence is impossible.

Sane person: Sigh...

Wayne: The onus is on anyone making a claim of knowledge, you are claiming to have knowledge about the state of existence of demons, that is you're claiming to KNOW demons do not exist. How do you know this, how dd you come upon the knowledge that Demons do not exist?

Sane Person: Oh, this is futile!!

Wayne: No it's not... Ow! Why'd you hit me with the banhammer?

Moderator: This is being hit on the head with the banhammer lessons.

Wayne: You can't prove it is.

Inspector Thompson's Gazelle: That's it, you're under arrest for excessive silliness and being an obnoxious tit.

Our piece on Breitbart's brilliant disproof of global warming (it can't be real because Manhattan real estate is expensive, and the Market would never reward bad decisions) brought this heartfelt reply From "Senator Smelly Pants," who we'll at least credit with a good username. Senator Smelly Pants replied to another comment (which we don't allow) that had joked "I wasn't aware that climate change scientists were the ones who've been investing in NYC's real estate":

I thought he was talking about the left-wingers that encompass much of NYC. Not climate change scientists.

I find it strange how these leftist elites act like their all about helping the little guy, yet the little guy can never afford to live anywhere close to a place that is occupied by leftist elitists without subsidies. California and New York are really great examples. Isn't it strange how wide the gap is between the rich and the poor in these states? Why is that? Why can't these people grasp the fact that just believing that you're morally superior does not actually make you morally superior?

Sincerely,

A Poor Person

There's a whole bunch of dumb in that, starting with the notion that the price of Manhattan real estate has anything to do with Liberal Elites, instead of, say, NYC being the center of financial activity in the country. But keep voting Republican, notional poor person! You'll be rich any day!

Even with a brand-new commenting system, we still got new comments on articles from years ago, like this bit of wit from "Bryant Hill" on an article about Occupy Wall Street from 2011:

Without the employers you wouldn't have a job. Oh, I forgot, you don't work, but are a parasite on Obamba's buttside.

Where exactly is the boundary between a butt and a thigh? A buttside, apparently.

A deleted commenter by the name of "mrtmcgowan" was displeased by the comments on our latest Peggy Noonan Fugue, and called us out on our use of Alinskyite tactics -- we really are impressed that Saul Alinsky appears to have actually been read by more wingnuts than liberals. Or at least that excerpts of Saul Alinsky have been widely posted in the Wingnuttosphere:

Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals #5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

You go, Wonkette!! If you don't understand something, just make fun of it.

First off, we weren't aware that Saul Alinsky had ripped off Mark Twain, who said it much better:

[Humanity] has unquestionably one really effective weapon--laughter. Power, Money, Persuasion, Supplication, Persecution--these can lift at a colossal humbug, -- push it a little -- crowd it a little -- weaken it a little, century by century: but only Laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of Laughter nothing can stand.

Which leads us to the inescapable conclusion that Mark Twain was an Alinskyite radical who understood nothing! Mrtmcgowan continued in this vein until his forced departure, basically soundling like "Wayne" but substituting "you can't argue against conservatism logically so you mock it!" for "You can't PROVE it!" We'll give him credit for one sorta joke: First he wrote "You're pretty much just a bunch of dicks," then someone replied (we didn't look) and then he added "As you wish; you're a bunch of penises." But does mrtmcgowan realize that, in mocking Wonkette, he is himself now using Alinskyite tactics? Heretic! But he saved his most devastating criticism for the last. He accused us of knowing about politics solely from watching The Daily Show, and that is just plain not true! A lot of us watched The Colbert Report, too, Mr. Smart Guy!

One "Josh Evony" didn't much care for our criticism of Rudy Giuliani's pointing out the simple truth that the President of the United States actually hates America. After all, so do we, obviously!

Is this really upsetting you nutters? The idea that a harden leftist hating the US? Isn't that kind of your shtick? Look at the ads on this site, soviet inspired propaganda; is that done out of a place of love and admiration for the US?

Thanks for the laughs, Josh Evony -- Barack Obama is a "harden leftist"? That's a good one. As to our use of Soviet-style imagery: You should see the Wonkette company car provided to Yr Doktor Zoom. We didn't even know it was possible to import a Trabant. See you in the bread line, comrade!

"Boilerguru" had this brief thought that was for some reason added to our story about the head of Seattle's police union telling racists and homophobes that they really should consider getting a job other than Seattle Police Officer. No idea what part of the article this person thinks they're commenting on:

There is no collective -- the individual is the only thing that matters. Enforce private property rights and arrest vagrants

Hell, for all we know, maybe that was "satire?"

Finally, there was this comment from "elizabeth cohen" on our story about the DHS's new report on possible rightwing terrorism, like the Sovereign Citizen loons. Ms. cohen had a number of Thoughts!

I would happily shoot your ass. I got my gun and my bible, and it's looking right at you!! Idiot liberals you have no idea who the real Right Wing is. All you see is a KKK member and call him a right wing extremists. They are more Neo-Nazis and they would shoot anyone, black, white, Jew, and Christian because they hate us all. I am on the right and I would never consider shooting anyone and neither would my friends and family, we, unlike you, have respect for the beliefs of others. You, on the other hand, are so vile and so hateful that you would point your evil little finger and anyone but the leaders of this country. And, if it came right down to it, I believe it is the Liberal side of America that would go around shooting people who do not believe what you do. This government already tried to destroy the 2nd amendment and tried to take away our right to bear arms. Hitler did the same, the communists did the same, that includes the Chinese. Millions died, in Germany alone six million died, not including the Germans who tried to fight him. I believe this president wants to desperately take away our rights, all of them. He called our Constitution an old document that is restraining him; wonder what he meant by being restrained, do you?

If there were those who you believe were "right-wing extremists" that idiot in the white house would not be here. See, that is not what I believe and it's not what my friends and family.believe. We are "True Right Wing Patriotic Americans."

Every, and I mean every comment by leftist liberals are nothing more than evil and vile rhetoric against people they don't even know. I truly feel bad for you all, no heart, no empathy, no respect and you lack dignity and honor.

I would happily shoot you. I would never consider shooting anyone. She's my daughter. She's my sister. Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown, and the Holocaust was about gun regulations. And you liberals are so vicious and likely to start shooting people that I need another gun. Gotcha.

Doktor Zoom

Doktor Zoom's real name is Marty Kelley, and he lives in the wilds of Boise, Idaho. He is not a medical doctor, but does have a real PhD in Rhetoric. You should definitely donate some money to this little mommyblog where he has finally found acceptance and cat pictures. He is on maternity leave until 2033. Here is his Twitter, also. His quest to avoid prolixity is not going so great.

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