Hey gays, you like Nate Silver, yes? He is a vanquisher of angry cursing wingnuts and the sexual mentor to a hot new generation of polynomials. That’s two things to like! In an interview with Queerty he talks about numbers and gay things by explaining why we should blame the passage of California’s Prop. 8 not on black people but on old people of all colors and hues. (You will all click the “MORE” button now because Nate Silver is your new Sarah Palin: sweet sexy pageview bait.)
Why do you think Prop. 8 passed?
Well, every year the gay marriage bans have a more and more difficult time passing; this is principally a generational issue, and you have younger, generally more tolerant voters replacing older, generally less tolerant ones. If you sort of plotted those numbers out, and then adjusted for the fact that California is more progressive than other states that had passed gay marriage bans, you could see that Prop 8 was going to turn out to be very, very close — within a few points in one direction or the other. When an election is close, the side running the better campaign is usually going to win. In this case, for better or for worse, the ‘Yes’ side had a big head start in fundraising in messaging, and the ‘No’ side couldn’t catch up in time.
Well, that is a very sensible thing to say! Nerd.
Nate Silver on African-Americans, Prop 8. and Being A Hero to Gays & Geeks Everywhere [Queerty]
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WRONG. Prop 8 passed because GAWD INTENTED IT TOO. Fuck analysis. Jeebus is at the wheel, steering us all into insanity.
Gawd bless California. Gawd bless the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Assfucking.
Nate Silver is great. But time is better spent finding a way to overturn prop 8, building support for gay marriage, and creating a plan for protest, rather than in finding a scapegoat after the fact.
polynomials sound like something Mormons would be into. just sayin’…
oh damn, one side won because they had more money and better strategy?
that’s a whole new concept, i thought campaigns nowadays only lost because of a sexist media or because of a liberal media bias or because the banking structure collapsed or any other reason other than because the other team ran a better campaign.
teh gayz need to come up with a better excuse maker.
[re=183200]metropolitan[/re]:
They can always borrow a page from the Repubs.
[re=183197]NoWireHangers[/re]: Well said. Now bring me the axe.
[re=183197]NoWireHangers[/re]: Agreed. But I’m glad that he talking people off the “Black folks did it!” ledge, which was ew.
[re=183201]ManchuCandidate[/re]:
my theory is the obvious one. the mormon god is more powerful than the gay god.
In 2000 the gay marriage vote was like 62%-38% against gay marriage. In 2008 it was 52%-48% or something against. In 2012 gay marriage should win. Teh Gays just need some patience. Go back to your care free assfucking for 4 more years, then we’ll let you burden yourself with the soul-crushing sadness of marriage for the rest of your lives and for some reason you’ll be happy.
it came down to grassroots organizing; the other side did it better. it’s a shame the peeps on the ‘no to prop 8′ side didnt take a cue from Obama’s power machine and organized through that lens. tolerance comes from communicating to all generations and colors in terms they understand. you cant facebook grandma. meh.
http://www.charlietueats.com
Gays need to move to Utah and pass a “no straight mormon marriage” prop!
Sara, please just go boff him already. You are Sara K. Smith. He will be putty in your, um, hands. And liveblog! Thx.
So……math hates gays? What is everybody supposed to disrupt now? Math class? Calculator factories? I was having enough trouble finding Mormons to sneer at. But if Nate Silver commands it then Texas Instruments will burn.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
Posting anything you can find on Nate Silver is not going to make him your boyfriend, Sara.
It just sounds better to go ahead and blame the negro, so that’s what we’ll do.
most of these posts are far too serious. People- have you not started drinking yet???
i think if it was made clear to all heterosexuals that these people who are denying gays and lesbians their rights are also against butt sex when it comes to heterosexuals you’d see a big change of attitude in the voting patterns of straight males.
make it clear: these people just dont want ANYONE to buttfuck.
[re=183211]gambypants[/re]: GILF?
Is that Nate playing poker? Awesome.
[re=183209]grendel[/re]: There’s a moral in that.
First, it’s the economic meltdown, now Prop 8. Will there be anything left that we can scapegoat teh black hordes for?
After a rough day and a rougher happy hour I completely lost my shit over Prop 8 last night. My building manager and neighbor were hanging out smoking and painting (I live in a building full of hippies BTW) and they told me it wasn’t a big deal. I think I called them closeted homos and I know I said a few other choice things too. I might need to find a new place to live…
And yes, I too want to bone Nate Silver while he talks about regressions and logarithms.
[re=183227]4tehlulz[/re]: we can always blame them for teh rap music.
Nate, the numbers might not love you back, but there’s a 98.65% chance that I would. Rar!
[re=183227]4tehlulz[/re]: Hey, we negros have taken the blame for your honkie fuck-ups for the better part of 400 years. Go demonize somebody else for a century or two and leave us alone. Try the Dutch, those goddamn filthy wooden shoe-wearing gouda-heads.
Sounds like Sarah K. Smith is in L-O-V-E!
“When an election is close, the side running the better campaign is usually going to win.”
Look, gays, get your collective shit together….
Nate is right (and hot). Teh Gays and their friends (fag hags) should protest outside Leisure World. It’s the old farts who want to send teh gays to Gitmo. I say give the old fuckers a bad batch of meat loaf and watch them shit themselves to death. The end.
Props to Nate for making some sense of the whole Prop 8 catastrophe for me. The idea of denying the divine George Takei anything, much less matrimonial bliss makes me just sick, sick, sick.
As for the Olds, to paraphrase the Simpsons: They’re old and they’ll be dead soon.
They were afraid that if Prop 8 was defeated, Jeebus would punish ‘em all with a massive earthquake.
I am digging that action shot of Nate doing stuff to numbers, and er, stuff.
The blame for the passage of Prop 8 really falls on the dandruff-free shoulders of bald men. Too many got excited when they heard “Propecia” instead of “Prop 8″ and things sort of snowballed from there.
[re=183242]poptarts ‘[/re]: “Old people don’t need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.”
the answer is obvious… give all the old people better drugs so they’re too mellow to bother voting.
[re=183242]Servo[/re]: Earthquake, schmirthquake. I think the wildfire decimating that mobile home park for seniors was a nice, subtle hint from the Almighty.
The more one thinks about it, the more one realizes that the GOP is screwed, sodomitically and otherwise, on every level. Their base of intolerant assholes is dwindling through natural decrease. Rural outposts are dying out; small towns are dying out; cities are growing; the upcoming generations are gay-tolerant, diverse, in a large part non-white, often non-Christian, and in love with Barry like whoa.
There is a good chance that by 2016, Texas will turn blue. And then the GOP can basically kiss its major party status goodbye.
The point is that we need a lot more than just us gehz getting shit together to make this happen… and if you believe in buttsex, this one is gonna be harder that keeping Tinkerbell Mukasey upright (tho I suppose a rod up the ass might do it for him, Repug after all).
SOOOOOOO… If you want us to stop bitching about wanting to be as miserable as teh strayt, help us graffiti a morman temple!
Jeez, this is a little serious for this morning- I better go smoke a blunt and then come back with something snarky. If I have that much motivation.
[re=183277]Rev. Juan MessyCan[/re]: wanna match? Meet me in bathroom in twenty.
Oh, Nate, you number crunching autistic hottie…stick your huge graph in my pie chart.
Oh Nate! Who sees all things and knows all things! Just tell me Franken is going to send Coleman back to Saint Paul to shag cocktail waitresses. Your supplicant beseeches. (Nate: Reply hazy; try again later.)
[re=183197]NoWireHangers[/re]: Point, but, like Joe Biden says of climate change, if you don’t know what went wrong, you won’t know how to fix it.
I blame it on the Brad/Lee effect.
Sure gay men told each other and pollsters they wanted to get married. But when they stepped into the booth they remembered one of the reasons they were gay in the first place. They didn’t have to get married! Now if only we could ban straight marriage…
Having said the above, though, thanks to that other 40%-plus of Californians whose buttsecs was already “sacralized” but DID put down the pipe and porno-cam anyway to try to defeat 8.
[re=183262]queeraselvis v 2.0[/re]: Yea, the fires of hell are created by burning formica, fake ‘wood’ paneling and old carpeting. It was just a taste of things to come.
[re=183279]Kev-O-Tron[/re]: Doood, I think I went to the wrong bathroom. They’d replaced the urinals with all this shelving! but I found a half empty gallon of something to relieve myself into anyway. Guess I shouldn’t have been smoking ON MY WAY to smoke in the bathroom.
[re=183209]grendel[/re]: In 2000 the gay marriage vote was like 62%-38% against gay marriage. In 2008 it was 52%-48% or something against.
Wow, I didn’t realize gay marriage was so dangerous they already had to ban it *twice*. Keepin’ us normals safe from teh gays, praise the lord.
[re=183284]effinHel[/re]: Yeah, I don’t get the whole charm of having contractualize one’s bond of love. The legal stuff can all be handled by the ‘civil union’ tag without overly panicking the squares. As a straight and (mostly-happily) married male, the only thing I ever saw appealing about the gay lifestyle is the happy-go-lucky sense of independence and self-rule.
Well, that and some pretty fabulous clothes.
i got married to my same-sex life partner in california on september 12 this year. i am kind of tired of straight people being like, “just wait, it’ll go through in 4-10 years. when your parents are dead.” i am in my thirties… do i want to be a forty-year old “bride?” the whole thing is so depressing, it messed up the fun of election night, and even if the mormons don’t deserve all the blame, they were the ones asking for it, so we should get Big Love cancelled, if it isn’t already…
I told my real boyfriend one night while we were watching Nate Silver get interviewed on TV that Nate was my imaginary internet boyfriend, and he was outraged that I was in any way attracted to someone so extraordinarily dweeby. But I can’t help myself.
Nate, want to get gay married?
Goody! All we have to do is cap all the old dessicated fossils who still get to the polls with their walkers, and our job is done!
Thank you Nate, for identifying the targets!
[re=183197]NoWireHangers[/re]: We need to know WHY it passed so we can figure out HOW to overturn it.
Nate is SOOO cute…but i didn’t see in the photo the hand-grenades he was going to rightfully lob at those tacky pagan Mormon temple sites…the big one in Salt Lake looks like Bloomingdales on acid.
The funniest thing about the other night when Arianna Huffington was guest-hosting for Rachel Maddow was when she introduced Nate Silver as “one of de beeggest weeners of dis election season.” Whether she meant “winner” or “weiner”, both applied.
[re=183312]clover[/re]:
Ha, I think keeping Big Love going is the best insult to the Mormons. They’re not exactly portrayed in a forgiving light.
All praise to The Nate! He is the new Oracle of Delphi. Smoke. Incense. Goats.
Look it’s obvious gay people just weren’t able to make the sale. Personally I blame the Bears, though the Twinks are not much help either.
Okay, so when it passes in 2012 or 16, whatever, and the world gets dull and unprotestful, and all the gay couples get old, will you vote against yourselves…?
[re=183333]Liverspots[/re]: I talk about my man-crush on Keith Olbermann to my wife all the time, but she’s cool with it. And how I’m gay for Rachel Maddow. And Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN).
I guess we have an open marriage. As long as we’re open only to people on TV and don’t have sex with them for real.
Larry McAwful: I’m pretty sure on this, but just for your info – there is no real sex…
[re=183211]gambypants[/re]: “it came down to grassroots organizing; the other side did it better. it’s a shame the peeps on the ‘no to prop 8′ side didnt take a cue from Obama’s power machine and organized through that lens. tolerance comes from communicating to all generations and colors in terms they understand. you cant facebook grandma. meh.”
It did, but how do you compete with the mormon missionaries in sheer number, financing, and organizational strength?
[re=183341]Fly-over Correspondent[/re]: [re=183283]WadISay[/re]: Yes, but unfortunately that’s not how the information has been used thus far. I’ve been to two rallies and I don’t see any concrete plans. What NO on 8 needs is some good grassroots Obama-style organizing and a fucking plan. I don’t know how angry rallies outside the Mormon Temples have helped win Mormons over to the No on 8 cause. Or how further alienating the black community will help. Or how lashing out at Christians helps. In regards to the latest “let’s blame the old” angle, Dan Savage had stated that they’ll soon be dead. Yes, there is lots of anger, and rightfully so but that’s now how you get the Moran vote.
None of that helps.
If by “grassroots organizing” you mean “giant multi-million dollar machine of people from outside the state,” then no, the anti-Prop 8 people didn’t bring the same juggernaut to the table that the Mormons do.
When it comes to “marriage is one man, one woman” nonsense, the Mormons are surprisingly late to the party (just 117 years of officially believing in this “timeless” principle), but they make up for it in their enthusiasm.
[re=183312]clover[/re]: Hey, Clove????Kisses.
[re=183312]clover[/re]: Also I sent you some Honey Money or some shit like that so how was the honeymoon?
I need a better Nate picture.
[re=183502]102415[/re]: not a picture, but it’s by far the best video I’ve seen of Nate…if only he was this relaxed when he was on real TV. Then again, the nervousness is pretty hot, too, in that it makes me think “come to mama, she’ll make you feel better.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkWXXwlJ-6c
Yes Lascauxcaveman they do have some nice clothes… Another reason they don’t need marriage, they can successfully pick out their own clothes. Jesus this is all almost depressing enough for me to want to get married again… no never mind.
Wait wait wait. Sara, Wonketteers, is Nate Silver actually hot or are y’all fucking around? This is very important ’cause there might be some socially awkward fantasy-baseball-and-politics nerds who love stats and wear those half-frame glasses out there who are curious if they’re hot. Not me, obvs. Just, you know, for the edification of others . . .
[re=183526]wellspring[/re]: Great tape thanks. His sperms should be stored in a vault and used to raise the intellect of the next generations.
I would be pleased to cougar him anytime within the next year and a half, after he loses his hair though not so much.
I will definitely speed read his book at the bookstore as soon as it comes out. I love you Nate!!!![re=183886]Internally valid[/re]:
Show us your glasses and do some calculating and more important I’m afraid, show us your book contract/advance. Wait, don’t go away. Is the front of your shirt clean?
Bloody hell. I read that interview and now I’m dying because I’ve been making this Mrs Nate Silver joke for ages on my blog and I really did, but not in earnest, propose to him over email — to be funny and , but I never thought he’d ever actually read them — and he fricken mentioned it in the interview and now I have to go die of embarrassment. Fun times.
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