• February 14, 2012


Here, watch this, and maybe you too can someday see why it is funny to tag the AIG flogging liveblog with “bonus army.” Ugh.

Actual transcript of conversation between your editor and his “Ivy league graduate” co-editors:

Grade inflation.

{ 64 comments }

jagorev March 18, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Yeah, I didn’t get that all, and I too went to a fancy college. On the other hand, your Ivy League co-editor did use the word “haberdashery”, so those degrees weren’t entirely useless.

Tommy Says Soooo, Jugdish! March 18, 2009 at 2:18 pm

SKS is too busy answering lesbian fanmail and Newell is perfecting the jheri curl. What’s the problem, pops?

trondant March 18, 2009 at 2:20 pm

I’m still waiting for Perino’s husband to explain the Cuban Missile Crisis to me.

Tommmcatt March 18, 2009 at 2:21 pm

I still don’t get it.

Serolf Divad March 18, 2009 at 2:23 pm

According to Wikipedia the Bonus Army was a secret organization whose membership is secret and whose bylaws prevent revelation of its existence to any graduate of an elite Northeastern college. So that explains the confusion.

PeteJayhawk v2.0 March 18, 2009 at 2:23 pm

Actually, I’m surprised no one gets it either. Of course, I was a history minor in college.

V572625694 March 18, 2009 at 2:24 pm

[re=268053]Tommmcatt[/re]: Listen to John Forsyth’s explanation in the clip. Afterward he went off and banged Linda Evans for six hours

mdotsota March 18, 2009 at 2:24 pm

My University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee history degree allowed me to understand that reference. Gotta go now, this customer wants Biggie fries.

shanemacgowan March 18, 2009 at 2:25 pm

I guess that Sara and Jim will not be appearing on Celebrity Jeopardy any time soon.

Lascauxcaveman March 18, 2009 at 2:25 pm

I’m older than Ken and I don’t get it either. I thought I was such an egghead. Honest, I kick ass at Jeopardy.

shanemacgowan March 18, 2009 at 2:25 pm

[re=268052]trondant[/re]: Thank you.

ManchuCandidate March 18, 2009 at 2:26 pm

I got it (funny in peculiar ironic way, not haha) and I’m a furriners.

Ken, you have have to throw in a MacArthur and Patton remark next time.

Lascauxcaveman March 18, 2009 at 2:28 pm

[re=268064]shanemacgowan[/re]: Haha! You rang in first!

Atheist Nun March 18, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Ken, do you know what happens when you masturbate to The History Channel? You are alienated by dumb American society and end up with an incredibly chafed penis.

SayItWithWookies March 18, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Now we taxpayers are the Bone Us Army. Bend over and feel the love.

Gallowglass March 18, 2009 at 2:31 pm

If it makes you feel better, I knew what the Bonus Army was. Nothing quite wakes you up to the more unpleasant realities of American history than reading about Douglas MacArthur and George Patton running over WWI veterans with tanks because they had the temerity to come to Washington for their promised money.

Gallowglass March 18, 2009 at 2:33 pm

[re=268062]mdotsota[/re]: Woo! History degrees! I’m on my way to the grocery store where I got hired with mine!

qaf March 18, 2009 at 2:34 pm

I suggest Emperor Norton as the next obscure historical item for Ken to refer to.

Formerly Preferred March 18, 2009 at 2:36 pm

I understand the convention to be that one learns something every day. Having now learned this thing, I am free to go home and get drunk. Thank you, Wonkette!

Gallowglass March 18, 2009 at 2:36 pm

[re=268081]qaf[/re]: Or the Whiskey Rebellion.

Mista Eko March 18, 2009 at 2:39 pm

I know he was going for “you fellas” but I’m pretty sure I heard “I know who made this country great! It’s that Jew Fella!”

Do we know who this wonderful Jewish man was and if his next of kin might still live to lead us to prosperity?

And how did the man know he’d be waiting until 1945 for non-wartime domestic spending? That’s rather prescient.

bureaucrap March 18, 2009 at 2:41 pm

It would be great to name a protest group “the new bonus army” for this particular bonus issue, but it would, karmically speaking, invite the same result. FWIW, it’s also worth noting that this was one of the few instances of the American military firing on unarmed American civilians (the next one after was Kent State).

Hooray For Anything March 18, 2009 at 2:43 pm

I think the lack of understanding comes from the fact that most educational systems seem to skip over any sort of union/anti-government related historical activities as they are considered unAmerican. The only reason why I knew it was because I had a couple of Commie teachers.

jagorev March 18, 2009 at 2:44 pm

[re=268094]Mista Eko[/re]: His name is Alan Greenspan, obvs.

Hooray For Anything March 18, 2009 at 2:46 pm

[re=268081]qaf[/re]: Emperor Norton was the awesome.

bureaucrap March 18, 2009 at 2:46 pm

[re=268098]Hooray For Anything[/re]: Agreed. In fact, in my high school, the Depression Era was taught as primarily a period of wonderful escapist movies. Nobody died from starvation or disease, nobody was homeless, nobody was exploited. I had to read Steinbeck for that.

Mad Farmer Manifest March 18, 2009 at 2:47 pm

[re=268087]Gallowglass[/re]: There are not nearly enough references to the Whiskey Rebellion on this website. Especially considering the number of highly educated drunks. Of course, I’m a little partial to the Whiskey Rebellion because my ancestors were in on it.

HuddledMass March 18, 2009 at 2:52 pm

Yep, Kent State, mowing down the Bonus Army veterans, it’s all coming back to me. And to a location near you. Sooner than you think.

DangerousLiberal March 18, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. And to wear Army uniforms that suggest you have a load in your pants, also: http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/2673812.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=0A260859576A0997441E7B9404B1D1E7A55A1E4F32AD3138

ServiceJervixJuice March 18, 2009 at 3:08 pm

Hey, that was Gen. Smedley Butler speaking to the Vets. From what I’ve read, we need more like him.

Vartan84 March 18, 2009 at 3:09 pm

I know about the Bonus Army and enjoy historical references with great gusto!! Unfortunately I work in finance where I once made a historical reference to the storming of the Bastille in an e-mail to my team and was met with confused silence. Except for the one person who responded that people who make historical jokes (which he doesn’t get) like that should be killed. Talk about workplace professionalism! Sarah I want to work with you and make historical jokes all day, please save me from this.
P.S.- The leader of the Bonus Army was from my hometown and I’ve visited his grave!! Multiple times!! Because I have nothing better to do…? *SOB*

pink triangles March 18, 2009 at 3:16 pm

Did you see Walnuts on one of those horses? Surely, an American hero if there ever was one. Also.

sati demise March 18, 2009 at 3:23 pm

[re=268152]ServiceJervixJuice[/re]: yep, Butler foiled Prescott Bushs plan to build an army 500,000 strong and take down FDR, turning this US of A into a fascist nation.

Too bad his grandson succeeded. Where was the modern day Smedley?

Lazy Media March 18, 2009 at 3:24 pm

Who doesn’t know about the Bonus Army? Extra credit if you knew that Dugout Doug McArthur led the real Army’s attack against them. Good ol’ Doug.

DangerousLiberal March 18, 2009 at 3:28 pm

[re=268198]Lazy Media[/re]: Yes, and a certain guy who later became known as Ike was his aide. I was hoping to find pho-toes of them both in David Vitter pants, but my google search was lame, and I am lazy, also.

gjdodger March 18, 2009 at 3:29 pm

I thought it was what House Democrats used to shout across the aisle at the Majority Leader in the 90′s.

“Bone us, Armey!”

Neilist March 18, 2009 at 3:34 pm

[re=268190]sati demise[/re]: Weird coincidence: I quoted Smedley recently, in the context of explaining that the HBO film “Taking Chance” (starring Kevin Bacon) was propaganda.

(There is no such thing as an “apolitical war film,” IMHO.)

The reference did not go over well with my audience.

Probably because they realized that Gen. Butler was a commie pinko Islamic terrorist faggot who should denounced by Rush, Bill O and Ann The Man.

What with his TWO Medals of Honor and all.

hobospacejungle March 18, 2009 at 3:39 pm

I’m a history grad school dropout and I…got it. Them WW1ers was starvin’ and they wanted FDR to give ‘em money they were promised later only they wanted it RIGHT NOW GODAMMIT.

Roll Fish March 18, 2009 at 3:45 pm

Ken I thought it was a GREAT ONE

americanscandoanything March 18, 2009 at 3:46 pm

not that this has to do with that

but

this book on the bonus army published a few years ago is excellant reading for thems that like history

http://www.amazon.com/Bonus-Army-American-Epic/dp/0802714404

imissopus March 18, 2009 at 3:55 pm

I’m clicking on Ken’s link but nothing’s happening!

ogradybt March 18, 2009 at 3:55 pm

I went to a second-rate Midwestern liberal arts college (and a third-rate regional ag’ school in the shit part of Washington state to get an MFA, which is the second dumbest thing I’ve ever done, after above) and I got it. But that’s because when I was 18 my grandpa gave me a copy of his veterans magazine with an article on the hobo march because I was interested in labor affairs.

In short, next time I see him I will remember to thank my grandfather for helping me understand Ken Layne’s jokes.

CaliforniaMike March 18, 2009 at 4:01 pm

[re=268152]ServiceJervixJuice[/re]: I didn’t know that. There’s another great forgotten story that no one here will know that he was involved with. He was the one who exposed a Wall Street plot to oust FDR and impose a fascist government in 1933 or ’34.

Roll Fish March 18, 2009 at 4:10 pm

god I’m looking through the comments more and what is wrong with you damned illiterate fucks how did none of you learn about the Bonus Army?

bunnyhead March 18, 2009 at 4:30 pm

Arlen Spector’s father was in the bonus army, and he cites that as one reason he became a lawyer…to fight for people’s rights…back when lawyers used to do that…before they became corporate pimps… and other valuable members of scoiety…

Scottie March 18, 2009 at 4:47 pm

I got it, but, it’s not funny, because there are no similarities other than the word “bonus”.

Prommie March 18, 2009 at 5:07 pm

I have, I think, never in my life seen someone so proud of himself that he said a funny, so disappointed he didn’t get approval, and so sneeringly condescending that he found something he knows that someone else doesn’t.

This post kinda reminds me of the “The ocean called, it says its out of shrimp” episode of Seinfeld. Ken said a funny, he just had to find an excuse to say it again, this time in front of an appreciative army.

Bonus Army, he he.

Prommie March 18, 2009 at 5:10 pm

And look at these “me two” dweebs trying to carry the ball further; “oh, you may know about the bonus army, but I know it was led by McArthur,” “Yeah, well I know Eisenhower was McArthur’s COS.”

Yay, we know stuff, we get jokes. C’mere and let me smooch that pooper, Ken.

Prommie March 18, 2009 at 5:11 pm

Fuck; “me too,” me too. Also. Such as.

AllHat March 18, 2009 at 5:19 pm

wait, retroactively aborted? Why, that would mean … murder!

Tra March 18, 2009 at 5:23 pm

Poor Ken trying to persuade his fellow editors that “bonus army” is funny gave me perhaps the biggest laugh I’ve had all day. So, mission accomplished roundabout-ly?

ph7 March 18, 2009 at 5:46 pm

[re=268354]Scottie[/re]: That, and the irony that in the 1930s, those demanding their war bonuses were labelled communists.

SayItWithWookies March 18, 2009 at 6:07 pm

[re=268391]Prommie[/re]: Hey, Laura Ingraham’s here! Got any fat jokes for Meghan?

Tommmcatt March 18, 2009 at 6:23 pm

[re=268354]Scottie[/re]:

Oh! Now I get it. Bonus! It was a pun all along!

hobospacejungle March 18, 2009 at 7:56 pm

[re=268422]Tra[/re]: Poor Ken trying to persuade his fellow editors that “bonus army” is funny gave me perhaps the biggest laugh I’ve had all day.

Me too. That was the funny part, not the bonus part. The two young padowans both responding “I don’t get it.” Ken banging head on desk, suggesting they be retroactively aborted. Can’t get much more humorous than that.

K. Signal Eingang March 18, 2009 at 8:22 pm

I know what the Bonus Army is because I bought a book on it, which I have not read or even opened. But I did read the back cover blurb, and thought it would make a nice gift for my dad for his birthday, but then failed to wrap or mail it to him so it’s basically sitting in pristine shape jammed between a copy of “RE Search #15: Incredibly Strange Music” and some highbrow porn in one of my ridiculously overstuffed bookcases.

So, that’s my story.

ladymacbeth March 18, 2009 at 11:52 pm

i know nothing about the bonus army.

i know quite a bit about the golden bull, the great schism and the babylonian captivity but my uropeein church larnin does me absolutely no good in the hobo economy.

Mahousu March 18, 2009 at 11:55 pm

Hey, I made an historically appropriate Bonus Army reference weeks ago! Except this was in a post about some inane Richard Cohen column, so it was basically a waste …

montresor March 19, 2009 at 8:01 am

So basically this is part of American history the Masons and the Lizard Aliens don’t want you to know, which is why so many of us didn’t know about it. “Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system. Forget about the Senior Prom and go to the library and educate yourself if you’ve got any guts. Some of you like pep rallies and plastic robots who tell you what to read. Forget I mentioned it…. Rise for the flag salute.” — Frank Zappa.

Prommie March 19, 2009 at 9:50 am

[re=268492]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Luara Ingraham? Where? I would so love to kick her in the cunt; point her out to me. For Megan, I have only swamp sow and kankle jokes.

Prommie March 19, 2009 at 10:23 am

I don’t know about the rest of the Ivy League, BTW, but the Harvard grads that I have occasionally been forced to work with have universally been the most worthless sacks of shit ever in history. Dull grinds totally devoid of brightness. And everyone knows that the most dangerous person in the world is a diligent dullard, wrap them in a veneer of respectability, so that other dullards will kowtow to them, and they cause disasters. Think Harvard Summa Cum Laude graduate John Yoo.

Prommie March 19, 2009 at 10:30 am

Oh, and don’t forget the stupidest motherfucker on the face of the planet, Harvard grad Dougie Feith, magna cum laude, 1975. And of course W himself, Yale and Harvard. Them schools pump out pompous, entitled morons by the hundreds, apparently. The rest of them work for AIG and Citi and Lehman.

katrina March 19, 2009 at 12:57 pm

Oh, is this where the line forms to kiss Ken Layne’s pooper?
Paging Emma Goldman!

Felicia March 19, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Ha ha! I knew about the bonus army from going to public high school! No, you don’t understand, this is a good feeling because I feel stupid a lot usually.

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