Hello, Chuckles! So, uhm … SOCIALISTS! Yes, they are always plotting against you (us). Anyway, Ron Paul was around in 1976! He did whatever, or not, and, next thing you know, people died, or did not, but still!
Ron Paul Would Like You Communists To Shut Up About the Current Flu Pandemic
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As someone whose entire presidential campaign was based on economic fear-mongering (ZOMG THE GUBMINT IS THE BADZORZ AND WILL CAUSE A GRAET DEPRESSHUN WITH AMEROS), who is he to accuse others of being alarmist when it comes to the epidemiological issues surrounding the swine flue?
Please, Congressman, do not use the Olan Mills studio inside of Sears Department Store for filming crappy glibertarian PSAs.
I wish a rock would fall on Ron and his idiotic supporters.
Ron Paul has a “.tk” url? What is he, a teenage Chinese hacker trying to get me to download some “file conversion soft-ware” that is actually a computer virus?
ZOMG he’s like that V guy only not!
When he talks about his instincts it makes me feel funny (weird not haha) down there.
Can I get a vaccine that will innoculate me against Ron Paul?
If only US America really really really listened and/or got binoculars to read the blimp ad then he would have been Preznit of US America.
This video kinda makes me suspect that Ron Paul was usually that ONE doctor who never recommended anything in those 4 out of 5 doctors recommend drug ads.
“Smoking? Sure. There’s no guarantee you’ll get lung cancer or anything.”
“Thalidomide? Sure, take it. Science is never 100%. You’re kid might have a chance being okay.”
“Leaches? Everything can be cured with leaches.”
The greatest pandemic thus far swept out of Kansas, they say, because they live extremely close with their swine there, and it was incubated by the warmaking powers which drafted the carriesrs and placed them in petri dishes called army posts and then metastasized the product for the world to see, our greatest export by far, thirty million dead in 1918, and practically everybody with any credentials wrote about how adaptive are these various varusii and the flu among the most agile, and all I want to know is, where did this kook go to doctor school?
Texas, I bet. That would explain it.
Swine flu……….invention of Baconaise………….Coincidence?
An Ounce Of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure!!! Or is it bacon?? I can never remember…
Oh sure. BO says to relax and not worry, and he’s GOD. A doctor says the exact same thing and he should die. I’ve liked Ron Paul ever since he said BO was his only other pick from the dozen or so other candidates in ’08. And except for dismantling the Fed, they have agreed on everything right down the line, especially foreign policy. So suck it.
[re=301480]Bowdoin[/re]: Acutally it was Duke…they must be so proud…
The Bush DoHHS would right now be worried about breeding enough venomous serpents for everyone to handle.
If Ron Paul is so fucking anti-globalization, why the hell does he use a domain name based in fucking Tokelau?
His one redeeming value is that if I see anyone with a Ron Paul button/shirt/sticker, it’s a handy indicator of someone I don’t need to bother meeting.
Ron’s mostly mad that non-medicos are in charge of medical stuff. Jurisdictional dispute! Call the shop steward!
Has he really been in the Congers since Jerry Ford was preznit?
[re=301467]norbizness[/re]: +1
This jackass hates government so much, yet he keeps coming back for more. He has been a member of the House of Representatives from 1976-77, 79-85, and 97-present. He really needs to spend more time working on his end-world compound.
“You ain’t my bitch, mothafucka. Make your own damn vaccine.”
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: Paultard is Paultarded.
So the argument is, swine flu is no biggie, we should instead be scared of the DHS and “Big Government”.
Down with flu fear mongering! Up with Big Brother fear mongering! And TB is worse than swine flu, but we should not quarantine people with TB because that would be “Big Government” baddy bad bad.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
[re=301482]dave666[/re]: Please don’t steal Jon’s jokes.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: Well, there is that small thing about Paul being actively supported by white supremacists. Still, I’m sure you’ll enjoy the prison camp when the non-white majority in this country wins the race war you guys are trying to start.
You know the non-socialist, intelligent way to respond to a pandemic threat? Privateers! Fuck you, Ron Paul.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: You don’t know what you’re talking about. In fact, you’re embarrassing yourself.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: Er…I think the problem is with every other thing he said in the video, not the bit about not freaking out about the flu.
Ron Paul is a doctor who opposes all sorts of things the medical community as a whole supports, like requiring vaccinations for schoolchildren. Because maintaining herd immunity is part of the insidious socialist plot to destroy our freedom.
I’d rather take medical advice from a real doctor, one who bases their opinions on research not ideology.
[re=301480]Bowdoin[/re]: No. It’s not Texas’s fault, for once. Do you people not get it? Iowa has more hog farms than any state. It’s all in Revelation–once Iowans start gay marrying, we’re all going to die. Well, the Mexicans, anyway.
“How did the Department of Homeland Security get into the medical business?”
Oh, I don’t know, some stupid fucking Administration decided that DHS should stockpile Tamiflu to ward off bird flu. I forget the president’s name; Gush? Tush? Something like that. He was a member of some party or other, Rethuglican, Rebuglican, I forget.
@wookies: HA!
http://www.aprilwinchell.com/2009/02/05/barack-obama-is-tired-of-your-motherfucking-shit/
I was here for the great Conflatulence war blog duel, but missed the Epic Battle of the Paultards. Does this mean I’m finally going to get my chance to be a war hero? Because then, you’ll have to thank me for your freedoms.
[re=301470]Origami[/re]: Apparently he has child pr0nz on his freenet website.
He is a true Republican after all.
Seriously, I was exposed to Influenza B last year and the doctor prescribed Tamiflu for me and my husband. (Because we’re old farts). I have never been as sick in my life (even when I had typhoid in my throat, but that’s another story), same for my husband, who quit taking that shit while I went through the entire regimen.
Not sure I’m going to risk that again. Besides, I’ve got my 90 acre shield and no pigs in sight.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: So, Dr. Paul was all down with the whole $1+ trillion bailout of banks, carmakers, pretyymucheverybody? Keep us posted on his new policy twists, k?
I guess “promoting the general welfare” of the nation is for fucking communards.
Could someone please tell Marcus Welby here that his degree in Imafuckingloser far outweighs his medical credentials.
Hopey is speaking to the FBI. It’s one CNN. He started all informal and charming and now is his perfect, Hopey speechifying self.
STFU Paultard: Obama IS god. The end.
Ron Paul seems good for pointing & laughing purposes. I’m pretty sure that’s about the extent of his value.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: “A doctor says the exact same thing and he should die.”
Oh, now you see, I didn’t get that. So this guy’s a DOCTOR, eh?? Wow, someone should tell Dr.Ron Paul, M.D. that he needs to mention in his videos that he’s a doctor- more than just those ten or twelve times.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: My only problem with Ron Paul is that everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid. Unbelievably stupid. Is he really smart and just trying to appeal to what he perceives to be the stupid majority? I don’t think that will work. People would have to be at about the level of turtles. Good luck with the rloveution, but I just can’t see it happening.
In Libertopia there would be no pandemics because there would be absolutely no human contact, just millions of dudes jerking off all day behind their computers (hard working entrepreneurs.)
Oh God, I hate to say it, but I think Ron Paul is….erm…right? Of all the cases here in Spain. none are serious, none are among anyone who hasn’t been in Mexico, and all have responded to treatment.
I still think he’s a tool, of course.
While I can see Dr. Paul’s point about not panicing over this, I am disturbed that a trained physican can so causally dismiss the need for a public health service. Didn’t they teach him in med school that germs ain’t got no respect for national borders or even those fancy fences around gated communities? Hell, I bet them pig flu germs won’t even respect the island privacy of those who’ve gone Galt.
Spoken like a true Doctor of the Past: “I’d like everybody to step back and think for a minute, because I’m a doctor and much too busy and important to do so.” His denial regarding the politics of medicine is beyond naivete — more in the realm of disinformation. A lot of the sturm and drang over swine flu is a veiled warning between countries not to restrict imports of agricultural products. The mad cow charade proved how costly that could be. Paul’s nostalgia for doctor-run health care is misplaced at best; they were lousy hospital managers and greedy bastards who then had the chutzpah to sell out to insurance companies, the last people on earth who should run hospitals. Welcome to the world of karma, Ron; wash your hands.
well guess what my instincts were right because it wasn’t the flu that killed them it was the gubmint and so the flu is no big deal and even if it was there’s tuberculosis right? so why does she want the department of homeland security to run this great nation’s medical care sure it might be in their purview but they should not treat this problem in that manner and intervene in that hysterical manner
Donald Rumsfeld ran the company that developed Tamiflu. And W. decides to stockpile Tamiflu. What a surprise! The incestuous clusterfuckery of that administration is still fucking with us.
[re=301523]DustBowlBlues[/re]: The medical literature has reported some bizarre and unsettling side effects of Tamiflu, including weird behavioral changes. See: Tamiflu side effects come under scrutiny. Author: I Fuyuno in Nature [Nature] 2007 Mar 22; Vol. 446 (7134), pp. 358-9.
Do not want.
I could only watch a little bit of that video because it was killing my brain cells, and I have my box of wine to do that, thank you very much.
This is In Treatment bonus material, right?
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: . . . but he’s a coochie doctor. If you’re a woman, that’s not always pleasant.
[re=301542]McDuff[/re]: Are you saying that Mexico fence won’t keep their germs out?
Srsly, I’m looking forward to the Repubs squirming under the next (4? 8? 16?) years of a Democratic Department of Homeland Security. Kind of like Frankenstein’s monster beating the shit out of old Dr. Vic.
[re=301489]accidental_tourist[/re]: And except for dismantling the Fed, [Barry and Paultard] have agreed on everything right down the line, especially foreign policy.
Can I get some of what you’re smoking?
[re=301578]gjdodger[/re]: Far out! The name will be changed to Department of Peaceful Resolution, and they will issue rainbow alerts. Oh wow.
A thousand pardons for saying this, but Ron Paul, who is wrong about most things, is not wrong about everything. The media has been pimping this Swine Flu business as the scariest thing since Saddam Hussein. It’s not good to put everyone in a state of terror unless you want to invade some other country to steal their natural resources and conquer their land.
[re=301546]TimeCubist[/re]: Excellent summary!
[re=301751]Aurelio[/re]: But that’s not the point he’s trying to make. I believe he’s complaining about the government’s involvement in this, not the medias’.
Lemme get this straight, Tom Ridge’s color chart of TERROR never raised so much as an eyebrow among the serious gentlemen, but abundance of caution about a virus for which no vaccine exists is to be derided, scoffed at, and considered wasteful. I suppose he understands that nothing anybody does or says will get his constituents to wash their hands with any regularity.
[re=301541]BobLoblawLawBlog[/re]: He may or may not be right about the level of virulence and the seriousness of the disease. But what he’s saying is that the government has no responsibility in the area of public health safety. This is to be expected from a person who got into medicine in order to look up ladies’ dresses.
[re=301785]Mr Blifil[/re]: To be fair, Ron Paul never took terror threats seriously, either. His solution to terrorism, like with piracy, was to send a bunch of Rambos to get them for cash (preferably gold).
Ron Paul = “Do” from Heaven’s Gate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo
[re=301799]Mr Blifil[/re]: “He may or may not be right about the level of virulence and the seriousness of the disease.”
He would know nothing about its virulence, because the only way to truly know is to sit back and watch what happens. Viruses mutate at an incredible rate and who’s to say how deadly this could become. For smart folk, that’s simply a heads-up, not fear-mongering, a warning that we are not dealing with your average flu. To put it succinctly: People live close to pigs. Viruses live close to both. Viruses attempt to survive in whatever environment they find themselves in, and when there is a succesful crossover from pig to human – meaning a virus that mutated inside a pig later found a human being a welcoming host -it can be disastrous.
Ron should confine himself to speaking into vaginas.
I’m already tired of the swine flu coverage. My mom taught me to wash my hands when I was 3 years old. I don’t need to be reminded by newscasters every five minutes. Most of us are still 100 times more likely to die of cancer than swine flu. Take some vitamin C and move on. Obligatory semi-defense of Ron Paul: It’s not really fair to bash him for Republican policies of the last decade. He was voting against them most of the time. His votes probably line up better with Dennis Kucinich than his fellow Republicans, who generally despise him more than liberals do.
Clusterwolf, as usual, you’re a drooling moron. Anyone with a slide rule and a basic understanding of numbers knows you can approximate pretty much anything.
One can never “know” for certain on any of this, as everything is based on sample sizes, but a table can quickly be put together which shows the likelihood of X being Y.
It is highly unlikely this will be a pandemic, and probable that more people -would- get ill from mass immunizations then from exposure. What immunizations do is provide for a level of guarantee.
Essentially, there is, say a 97% chance that this is a pile of overblown claptrap and a waste of resources and time, and if mass immunizations took place there would be only a 1% chance of pandemic.
The question is if such a trade-off is of value, and what do you do to get people to get treated (and who pays for it)?
Paul’s point is idealogical to the extent that it may not be within the rights of the government to force treatment (it’s certainly not within its constitutional powers, so it would have to be a state issue).
Oh soory, forget to speak appropriately for you.
*coughs* -teh government iz gud at solvin’ troubles alls the times and neva goes mad wif public opinion because drudgy went crazy- LAWLZ LAWLZ
God damn America needs to bring back laws about being too stupid to vote.
What’s up with the .tk domain name? Couldn’t he afford Tuvalu my favorite, ‘.it’
*Sigh*
Ron Paul said the gubmint is getting HYSTERICAL. He hates the WIMMINZ!!!1!!1!1!
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