- LIKELY VOTERS IN NORTH CAROLINA, A BLUE STATE: “Public Policy Polling also asked those surveyed whether they consider Hawaii to be part of the U.S. Five percent said no, and 3 percent said they were not sure.” What is this “consider” business? [News & Observer]
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You know, I don’t think I’ve ever “considered” it either. I mean, I’ve always kind of taken it for granted, we’ve got the star up there on the flag for it and everything.
I’m with them on this. I’ve never seen Hawaii, and I’ve driven cross-country. And according to my map, it’s supposed to be just southwest of Arizona.
They think Hawaii is a fictional island paradise where Ben Affleck singlehandedly fights off the evil Nipponese and Michael Bay blows shit up. Because everyone knows that we only ever fought the Soviets in Dubya Dubya I I.
[re=384213]mephistopheles jefferson[/re]: You know, I’ve never considered it before, but that perfectly square-edged bit of ocean cutting into Mexico is pretty damn suspicious. Could the aliens have done it?
A matter of opinion, really. Constitution says you can be stupid. Look it up.
They’re stubborn. I’ll give them that.
To be fair to North Carolina, most if not all of that 5% also believe that Star Wars isn’t fiction and that eating toxic waste will give you superpowers.
The 5% are probably 99% birthers.
For what its worth, I don’t consider Oklahoma to be part of the U.S. either.
What is this “consider” business?
In North Caroline words like “believe” are saved for important things–for example that Jeebus rose from the dead on the Third Day, had hot sex with Mary Magdalene while turning water into wine and rode a dinosaur to Heaven.
why the FUCK is this question being asked? This is just feeding the fire. Hey, let’s do a poll: do you think Obama date raped anyone? Do you think Michelle is really a man because Obama is gay?
I mean, really, what is the point of this poll?
Has anyone here seen Hawaii’s birth certificate? I rest my case.
[re=384213]mephistopheles jefferson[/re]: because it is SW of Arizona, it has obviously been overrun by them messicans, so no, Hawaii is no longer a state.
If we get to jump on the considering bandwagon then there are a few states I’d like to “not consider” apart of the US too, starting with Mississippi and Alabama.
now go on over to hawaii, if you can find it, and ask the same question, mutatis mutandis, and see what they think. or consider.
I love this question. It helps to point out, to those who didn’t get it with the other answers, that ‘some’ of these people are morans.
What, no “nation of morans” tag? Although in fairness, maybe that 8% are the ones who can’t remember anything that happened after 1949.
Abe “Grandpa” Simpson: “I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah.”
Who designed this poll? Cokie Roberts?
That socialist Barry Sorento totally rigged this poll so N.C. would have to secede from the Union. Foreigner!
Of course Hawaii isn’t part of the United States. See, it goes back to Captain Cook, who allegedly discovered Hawaii — except there are two things wrong with that. First, the islands he supposedly discovered were named the Sandwich Islands. And those aren’t even on the map anymore. Instead, in its place is this archipelago full of Polynesians, Japanese immigrants and rich white potheads. Where did the Sandwich Islands go? It’s a mystery.
Second, when Cook “discovered” these islands, they were already full of people. Sorry, but that’s like me going to Cincinnati and saying I discovered it.
So what happened? It’s clear — Captain Cook was part of the conspiracy to get Obama elected president. Unfortunately, he screwed up and discovered the wrong island chain — one that was probably full of white, English-speaking Americans, in fact. That wouldn’t do at all — so another group of islands had to be substituted in its place. This was done sometime in the early 19th century, when nobody was paying attention. The Sandwich Islands were moved to New Zealand and invaded by Hobbits, and the Kingdom of Hawaii was kidnapped from Micronesia and placed where it is today, setting the stage for the socialist takeover of America.
The other result of this is that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor when in reality they had been attempting to hit Auckland. But nobody talks about that anymore. History, people — educate yourselves.
…a three hour tour…
Apparently objective reality is now subject to popular opinion. Stephen Colbert would be proud/horrified. Also in part because North Carolina is now obstensibly edging in on his native South Carolina’s once-undisputed monopoly on batguano craziness.
[re=384232]ManchuCandidate[/re]: I have it on good authority that eating toxic waste, specifically radioactive waste, does indeed turn one into an superhero.
“Up and at them.”
“Up ‘n’ at ‘em”
“Up and at them.”
[re=384255]4tehlulz[/re]: Some kind of cokie, that’s for sure.
“Barely half of N.C. voters believe President Obama was born in the United States, according to a poll released Tuesday.”
When I was a junkie I did not worry about this sort of shit. Sometimes I think I was better off then.
[re=384260]SayItWithWookies[/re]:
Brilliant except one thing. I’d never admit that I discovered Cincinnati and I’ve been there.
[re=384260]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Yes, and Captain Cook was killed and eaten by these “Hawaiians” who had obviously been smoking pot and watching that Monty Python episode about cannibalism in the Royal Navy. Now, what was the question?
[re=384270]x111e7thst[/re]: When I was a junkie I still watched Countdown every night. Fat lotta good it did me. Suboxone for the win.
Looks like push polling (always popular with the NC GOP) lives on in the Old North State
We’re going back to “eyes only” now, if you can’t see a place from your house, it doesn’t exist. It’s Palin’s idea.
It’s ‘up and atom.’ Also, if southwest Arizona isn’t a state, then that one next to it on the map isn’t either — what’s it called, Snowbillia?
[re=384260]SayItWithWookies[/re]: “Where did the Sandwich Islands go?”
i’ll never tell. (‘burp!’)
[re=384237]Spike[/re]: I just knew this was coming. If we go, then Texas has to go with us. And I have to go north.
[re=384278]saradc[/re]:
Looks like push polling (always popular with the NC GOP) lives on in the Old North State
I don’t think a lot of voters need a push in this country, some of them call up to volunteer crazy opinions without even being called. It’s like the insane wingnut version of giving blood.
[re=384260]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Brilliant. I’m so glad I read the entire post.
Sure a lot of fascination with polling: Sanford, Vitter, Ensign, et al. But I have a question: Do they keep poll numbers on C St.?
If we get through this health care reform, can we overhaul the education system next? By which I mean, can we implement some kind of rudimentary public education system in North Carolina?
The Fondling Fathers never meant for a bunch of islands where cannibals talk funny and breed pineapple-eating muslin terrabalists to be a whole state. They didn’t write nothing about it in the Missouri Compromise. It should be no more than a part of California, like Mexico. Aloha, also.
With polls, it’s all how the question is asked. Did the pollster say “Hawaii” or “Hye-wah-yuh”? I’d guess that about 8 percent of the people polled would only recognize the second pronunciation.
[re=384260]SayItWithWookies[/re]:
Well, discovering Hawaii didn’t work out all that well for Captain Cook. After a kerfluffle, the Hawaiians returned his skull and long bones to his ship and sent them on their way. The two sides differ in what they feel precisely happened.
“Pain in the arse Europeans, we were nice to you the first time but then you had to turn around and come right back….”
vs
“Humble childlike savages whom we can talk into doing things for us…wait…does that mean they ATE him?”
From the Wikipedia entry on California:
The name California is most commonly believed to have derived from a fictional paradise peopled by black Amazons and ruled by a Queen Califia. The myth of Califia is recorded in a 1510 work The Exploits of Esplandian, written as a sequel to Amadís de Gaula by Spanish adventure writer Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo. The kingdom of Queen Califia or Calafia, according to Montalvo, was said to be a remote land inhabited by griffins and other strange beasts and rich in gold.
But people don’t consider Hawaii to be real. Jesus.
[re=384299]Terry[/re]: Yeah, but he nicely disseminated STDs on a massive scale before they ate him, so he got them back, over and over.
You’d probably get the same numbers if you asked the rest of the country if they considered North Carolina part of the U.S.
These boneheads are the reason New Mexico has to put “USA” on their license plates, because otherwise Republicans think it’s part of Mexico.
[re=384268]hobospacejunkie[/re]: Yeah, the big problem with the auto-quote software here is that it doesn’t understand apostrophes at the beginning of words and makes them single quotes instead.
I’m considering not considering North Carolina part of the US, I have to admit.
I don’t think there is a NASCAR track in Hawaii. I don’t know of any Hawaiian NASCAR drivers.
No NASCAR = No America.
I’ve always considered everyone on the earth (except me) to be a soulless automaton put here by some obscure, infinitely higher higher being for the sole purpose of amusing/educating/befuddling me, personally, the only ‘real’ person on the face of the earth.
But then I stopped getting stoned all the time. Now I consider you all to be (mostly) on the same plane of being as me.
[re=384241]Doglessliberal[/re]: I encourage polls like this. Just after the election last November, some people I talked to denied voting for McCain (as they edged over in front of their McCain/Palin bumper sticker). I say keep illuminating the dumb and by 2012 they will deny being citizens.
[re=384248]sfstewart[/re]: I consider that that Hawaii is a state but also that the people who consider otherwise are subhuman(somewhere below the farm animals they have sex with)
[re=384213]mephistopheles jefferson[/re]: And Alaska is this Oregon-sized island off of Southern California, so I doubt it’s a state, either. So what does that do for Sarah P.? She was born in something called “Ida-ho,” which sounds right fishy to me.
Also, the N&O has been deteriorating so rapidly that soon its editorial product will be dictated by the whims of those 5%. They’re well on their way.
[re=384317]Lascauxcaveman[/re]: Speaking of soulless automatons put here by some obscure, infinitely higher higher being for the sole purpose of amusing/educating/befuddling you, personally, the people who hate and want to kill and eat Trig say Palin attended college for a year as a business administration student at at Hawaii Pacific University so it must be a real place if Sarah dropped out of a college there.
[re=384307]Doglessliberal[/re]:
True. We probably can blame Cook tangentially for the introduction of Spam to Hawaii, too. That Spam sushi is just plain wrong.
Lady Noonan speaks:
‘You Are Terrifying Us’
Voters send a message to Washington, and get an ugly response.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574334623330098540.html
“We have entered uncharted territory in the fight over national health care. There’s a new tone in the debate, and it’s ugly. At the moment the Democrats are looking like something they haven’t looked like in years, and that is: desperate.
They must know at this point they should not have pushed a national health-care plan. A Democratic operative the other day called it “Hillary’s revenge.” When Mrs. Clinton started losing to Barack Obama in the primaries 18 months ago, she began to give new and sharper emphasis to her health-care plan. Mr. Obama responded by talking about his health-care vision. He won. Now he would push what he had been forced to highlight: Health care would be a priority initiative. The net result is falling support for his leadership on the issue, falling personal polls, and the angry town-hall meetings that have electrified YouTube. …
The passions of the protesters, on the other hand, are not a surprise. They hired a man to represent them in Washington. They give him a big office, a huge staff and the power to tell people what to do. They give him a car and a driver, sometimes a security detail, and a special pin showing he’s a congressman. And all they ask in return is that he see to their interests and not terrify them too much. Really, that’s all people ask. Expectations are very low. What the protesters are saying is, “You are terrifying us.” …
What do they think the number Hawaii Five-0 stands for, anyway? 50! (Right?)
Good Lord! Speaking of which:
Magnum, P.I. > named after a gun; fast car; attack dogs; moustaches
Dog the Bounty Hunter > narcissistic, violent racist; fat wife; tatoos; zip-ties
Baywatch > tits; ass; bigger tits; slo-mo; The ‘Hoff
To quote a Real ‘Merikan Hoosier: “Well, ain’t THAT America?”
[re=384295]Jerri[/re]: Gawd No! Then were would the US get its next generation of Carnival barkers and NASCAR goons?
I would like to go to the Sandwich Islands. Right now, I would truly like to go to the Pastrami Sandwich Island, though I would gladly settle for the Roast Beef Sandwich Island or the Chicken Salad Sandwich Island.
[re=384260]SayItWithWookies[/re]: Any truth to the rumors that Roland Emmerich, Michael Bay, and Peter Jackson are currently in a three-way bidding war to option your kick-ass screenplay?
If you really want to drive the price up, casually mention to them that Baz Luhrmann might be interested. They fucking hate that dude! (I think it’s the accent…)
[re=384334]Terry[/re]: dude, spam musubi rocks!
[re=384324]DangerousLiberal[/re]: Idaho? No, U da Ho.
5% is significantly less than 28%. We are making progress.
[re=384349]Bearbloke[/re]: There’s always Alabama.
A more appropriate question would be to ask, “Do you believe Richard Burr is Virginia Foxx’s lesbian love child?”.
I’ll be damned if I’ll recognize Missouri.
North Carolina, always giving South Carolina a run for its money in the who can be the most whacked-out Conservative race.
[re=384232]ManchuCandidate[/re]: Don’t you dare say that about Star Wars. Everybody knows that it was a documentary, filmed in real time. Now the prequels, they were totally fiction.
[re=384254]MathewBrooks[/re]: Damn, you spelled it Missourah, and you quoted it correctly. Oh well, great minds, eh?
[re=384255]4tehlulz[/re]: Medal of Freedom to you, my friend.
[re=384628]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: I’ll be damned if a winger would recognize Missurah on a map.
[re=384726]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: According to Fox News, I believe, it is between Jordan and Iran.
“The survey found that only 24 percent of Republican voters in North Carolina believe Obama was born in the U.S. “
Only? Well, little birds and tiny crickets, gall-dam, time to let North Carolina and Kenya back into the Union.
Quebec, aussitôt.
Utah? Mmmm, maybe not so much.
What bias!
Did they ask whether, just possibly, the United States is considered part of Hawaii?!
No, sir! They did not!
(Or maybe they did. I wasn’t really listening.)
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