War-loving Bill Kristol — in his terrifying “Quick take from The Post’s opinion writers” — thinks that it is so hilarious for Barack Obama to receive and accept the Nobel Peace Prize that he need not even write about how hilarious it is, it is just that hilarious. He has a better suggestion for a recipient, though, and that would be the person who loves war most of all: “We could note that, if the Swedes Norwegians wanted to give the Nobel Peace Prize to an American, it would have been been better to give it to Sen. John McCain for having the guts to push through the surge in Iraq, which has brought relative peace to that country. But that would be overkill. The choice is so self-evidently Not a Parody that no explanation is required or possible.” Oh, pardon moi — “ha and/or ha.” Now he will have his afternoon tea.
If you are confused about how you are supposed to feel with regards to Obama’s prize, Spencer Ackerman sounds reasonable here:
But turning it down would be a slap in the face to an international community that is showing, in the most generous way possible, that it wants the U.S. back as a leading component of the global order. The issue is not Barack Obama. It’s what the president represents internationally: a symbol of an America that is willing, once again, to drive the international system forward, together, toward the humane positive-sum goals of peace and disarmament. The fact that Obama hasn’t gotten the planet there misses the point entirely. It’s that he’s beginning, slowly, to take the world again down the path.
In other words: they are still gay for us, for whatever reason.
Not a Parody [Washington Post]
It’s Not the Achievements. It’s the Journey Itself. [Washington Independent]
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Thank heavens we’ve stopped Kristol-rigging the world.
I’m surprised he doesn’t think Marisa Tomei won the Nobel.
Bill Kristol’s suggestions are always so well thought out, and are always proven correct in retrospect.
Did he really confuse Norway and Sweden? That’s a serious insult.
Did you know that Bill Kristol loves dogs?
I think Kristol unwittingly justified the Nobel Peace Prize Committee’s decision with that column
Wilhuff Tarkin should win the Nobel Peace Prize for blowing up Alderaan, which brought relative peace to that planet
McCain should have won the Nobel FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AGO!!!11!!!1
Proving once again that wingtards don’t get irony, BK can’t resist using the word overkill, which is a perfectly good description of what US America has done to Iraq.
I think he meant, “if the Swedes/Norwegians/Estonians/Pasty Pickled Fish Eaters wanted to give the Nobel Peace Prize to a PANAMANIAN, it would have been been better to give it to Sen. John McCain.”
But I could be wrong.
Shorter Guano Facet:
“Nobel Peace Prize? More like Nobel Puhh-leeze Prize! Amirite, or amirite? Surge!”
I
don’tdon’tgetgetthetheSwedes/NorwegiansSwedes/Norwegianspart.part.Anybody?Anybody?The real injustice here is that if Dubya had been able to serve three terms, he would be the one getting the Nobel for bringing the world together. I guess he’s right about not living long enough to see history come around and realize what a great man he was.
[re=431436]zhubajie[/re]:
like calling someone from Wisconsin a Minnesotan
[re=431437]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: I love that Bill Kristol knows dogs. Biblically.
Based on his campaign rhetoric, if John McCain were president:
-we’d be bomb, bomb, bombing Iran (instead of talking to them and getting inspectors in there);
-expanding the Iraq War (Bush at least had the good sense to begin negotitating our withdrawal, an idea which-without naming Bush-McCain’s people repeatedly denounced as “cutting and running”);
-doing God-knows-what in Afghanistan (okay, same difference, but still).
So, in summary, fuck John McCain’s imaginary Nobel Prize. And Ronald Reagan’s. Also.
Little Billy Kristol, annoying dickweed or human dildo?
Granted, it did take a) John McCain fucking up by running the worst campaign (and taking advice from Bill Kristol, like the idea to pick Sarah “duuuuuuuuuuuuumb” Palin as a running mate) and b) George Bush being History’s Greatest President to get Obama elected. So maybe they can both share a Nobel Fail Prize.
He has a point, McCain did try to singlehandedly destroy the Air Force one plane at a time.
Yes, the guy who took a Beach Boys song and turned it into a call for aerial death–that’s the guy we want to honor as a peacemaker.
Man, every time I start to think I hate someone more than Bill Kristol, he goes and does something like this–and totally redeems himself.
“I would make fun of you but you do it for me?” That’s the best you can do? Really? What a useless fuckwit you are, Bill Kristol.
[re=431449]dogscantlookup[/re]: Revre!1!1
Since when do conservatives care about peace, love and understanding? Sour grapes, I say.
Sure, Bill Kristol wants McCain to have the Nobel Peace Prize…Did you know Bill Kristol calls his teenie little weenie “Nobel Peace Prize”?
Kristol has 3 kids, guaranteeing that another generation of neocons will have paid sinecures at the Heritage Foundation, the Weekly Standard, and a number of pundocrat outlets.
Bill Kristol is a DICK. ‘Nuff said.
[re=431437]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: No, I think he pretended to be a dog, to get his dog-lovin’ dad’s attention.
[re=431452]x111e7thst[/re]:
Jagged-edge douchnozzle.
kristol meth destroys the mind as it corrupts the soul. children beware.
[re=431445]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: Most of the Nobel Prizes are handed out in Stockholm, but Nobel thought the Swedes were too warlike to handle the Peace Prize, so it’s handed out in Oslo, by Norwegians. This is not a joke.
Poor Bill, the scandahoovians shit in his teams’ cornflakes this morning and this is his best retort? My thought as to the motivations behind the award: They couldn’t possibly award it to the people who voted in a secret ballot to elect a non-senile, non-asshole, non-stupid candidate to represent the United States, so they had to go with the next best alternative. It’s just their way of saying “Thanks for not electing an incompetent ass, we didn’t want a repeat of the last 8 years.”
[re=431449]dogscantlookup[/re]: [re=431436]zhubajie[/re]: It’s like Norwegians do it all like this….and Swedes do it all like this…
How does Kristol hold a job?
You fucking fucktards lost. You lost the election. And you lost the world prize (again). And you know why? It is because you are FUCKING LOSERS!
Have I made this clear enough?
Where’s an armed Viking marauder when you really need one?
[re=431456]Suds McKenzie[/re]: Actually it was the US Navy. But he had an impressive run as an ace for the North Vietnamese Airforce, Walnuts downed something like 5 or 6 jets in his run as a pilot. For that, they should have given him a suite instead of a rat infested shithole, but it wouldn’t have made for inspirational reading. As for Bill, they should send him over to bolster our troop strength, he would make an appealing target (oops, make that representative of democracy) over there. I am sure he wouldn’t even need kevlar or a helmet since he is so well known as a great man of peace.
[re=431449]dogscantlookup[/re]: I think you missed the point. Norwegians don’t LIKE being called Swedes. Any Wisconsite would be honored to be considered a Minnesotan.
Bill Kristol was DAN QUAYLE’S CHIEF OF STAFF. I mean, come on, people. Why is everything he says not greeted with the sound of either laughter or vomit?
Dont Bill Kristol and Jonah Goldberg disprove the whole evolution thing?
[re=431470]Tommmcatt[/re]: Will you accept jagged-edge douchnozzle guano faucet?
Wish you all could have been in the car with me listening to Lou Dobbs slowly melt down while playing “Heal the World” in the background. I’m ready for this day to be over.
[re=431485]The Unfairman[/re]: We would, eh? (Mud Duck.)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mud%20Duck&defid=321019
Obama: “I didn’t deserve it.” Rightwing Dickwads: “He didn’t deserve it.” Can’t they think of anything more clever to say? Obama won the Peace Prize the day he didn’t respond to “You Lie!” Before that, he won it on Inauguration Day when he put a stop to torture. Before that, he won it when he didn’t respond to the McCain campaign’s race-baiting. Before that . . .
[re=431484]Rotundo[/re]: And nearly destroyed an aircraft carrier.
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[re=431437]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: Correction: Kristol loves pedigreed dogs that don’t bring Communist/Fascist/Muslin ideas home from the junkyard that is Chicago. Didn’t you ever notice how mutts are all community-mutt organizers?
Well, maybe the “international community” could use a slap to the face for this stunt. Was the prize not enough of a farce after Arafat and Kissinger? Obama made noise about nuclear disarmament? Ford and Brezhnev actually signed SALT, where’s their prizes? Perhaps if the “international community” didn’t spent so much time kissing ass and being dazzled by celebrity, the prize might have actually gone to someone who (get this) worked towards peace and there might have been actual progress on that goal. I’ve seen more meaningful results in high school elections.
This isn’t “reaching out,” this is the effete Eurotrash “intellectuals” masturbating over the idea of “one of them” being in charge of the US so they can stop pretending to care. Or maybe they just think that we’ll drop Polanski’s charges if they give us this.
[re=431445]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: You think he’s simply belittling the Nobels? That the Norweigians make the decision but they award it in Sweden? David Brooks was on the Newshour but not with Shields, some lame-ass woman who isn’t a liberal. So it sucked. Brooks says Obama should have turned it down. Lehrer kept saying why? Wouldn’t that offend the Norskies?
Easy–Nobama should’ve refused anything from a nation that won’t sign the international whaling treaty. Make PETA and the Republics happy.
[re=431474]Mahousu[/re]: Thank you. I need all the education I can get; I live in Arizona.
[re=431499]SuperStarr[/re]: An American being interviewed by the BBC said “Even Obama thought it was ridiculous” but the BBC man told him that’s not exactly how the President framed his response.
I think we should just name it the Nobel WAR Prize and just be done with it. The wingturds’going nuts over this today has been the only thing to make me crack a smile in weeks. Thank you Mr. President and the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
the most plausible route towards global peace is the complete nuclear annihilation of the human race so kristol has a point
[re=431451]Prof. Junk[/re]: ” And Ronald Reagan’s”
I love how they want him to have gotten because he singlehandedly won the Cold War. Right. He created hundreds of billions of dollars in debt for the US taxpayer and spending the USSR into submission. And adding another few hundred billion bailing out the thrifts after he deregulated them and they bet Granny’s life savings on junk bonds.
But–oh, wait. He gave a speech.
Case closed.
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: Excuse me, but this isn’t NRO. I think your browser must be fucked up.
He’s like Kanye West, grabbing the mic from Taylor Swift to complain about Beyonce losing.
Hmm…no. More like Bobby Brown grabbing the mic from Beyonce to complain about Whitney losing (not realizing that “How Will I Know” was not nominated this year.)
C’mon, he isn’t even gonna opine that them pesky vikings are racist for jilting McCain? Self hating, also!
Someone’s got to say it. Oh, pleaseplease.
[re=431474]Mahousu[/re]: Thanks. My anglo-saxon/Welsh descended husband who think he’s Norweigian (it’s complicated and funny) told me that once, but I forgot and didn’t want to go ask him
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: This isn’t “reaching out,” this is the effete Eurotrash “intellectuals” masturbating over the idea of “one of them” being in charge of the US so they can stop pretending to care. Or maybe they just think that we’ll drop Polanski’s charges if they give us this.
So it was the common working people of Switzerland who sent Polanski back to the U.S.?
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[re=431499]SuperStarr[/re]: “when he put a stop to torture.”
So you’re saying he actually hasn’t won it yet? Pretty much on every one of Cheney’s more reprehensible policies, the Obama administration’s response has been hemming, hawing, and hand-wringing.
Heck, on torture alone McCain deserves the prize more than Obama. He at least made a half-assed attempt to stop it.
There are a few thousand Iranian opposition members getting their fingernails ripped out right now for their beliefs, attempting to change their government through peaceful, democratic means, but Obama did more to earn the prize than they?
Undoubtedly, McCain would have been the only Peace Prize nominee who called his wife a cunt.
[re=431506]DustBowlBlues[/re]: there is no way Barry will ever make the repubelicks happy ever ever ever, short of suicide.
And I’m still trying to figure out the barb dwyer query…
[re=431456]Suds McKenzie[/re]: Nice!
No really, I fear Kristol may have experienced an “event” in his brain. I mean, Mr. Dithers for the peace prize – anat. Poor Bill.
Let’s hope he recovers (or not).
[re=431522]Guppy06[/re]: I luuurrrvve the way Obama is torturing the wingtards.
I “hope” we have 7+ more years–LONG years–of watching wingers howl and moan and writhe. Please carry on.
A brief word to conservative American media types:
Irving is dead now, so you can stop giving Little Billy Dickless these pity jobs already!!
[re=431451]Prof. Junk[/re]: If John McCain were president now, he’d be having his food tested very carefully.
[re=431522]Guppy06[/re]: [re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: Neo-cons, yay! Put that говно in your eagle-teared, Murrik’n flag-themed pipe and smoke it.
[re=431433]Scandalabra[/re]:
How true, how true.
(with a nod and bow to WaPo commenter okjuggler]
Kristol, Sept 11, 2002: “we cannot afford to let Saddam Hussein inflict a worse 9/11 on us in the future.”
Sept 15, 2002: “No one believes the inspections can work.”
Sept 18, 2002: war in Iraq “could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East.”
Feb 20, 2003: “He’s got weapons of mass destruction. At some point he will use them or give them to a terrorist group to use.”
Mar 5, 2003:”I think we’ll be vindicated when we discover the weapons of mass destruction.”
Apr, 2003: “I think there’s been a certain amount of pop sociology that the Shia can’t get along with the Sunni, or the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of fundamentalist regime. There’s almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq has always been very secular.”
[re=431436]zhubajie[/re]: Even worse if he confused Barack Obama with Marisa Tomei (who certainly had my vote).
The White House has announced the prize money $1.4 million) will be donated to a charity. It would be great if it was ACORN, just to rub it in, but if he gives it to Bill Ayers that’ll work for me too.
[re=431551]S.Luggo[/re]: Oppose health care reform, sight unseen.
- Billy the Always Wrong, 1993
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[re=431484]
Rotundo[/re]: I stand corrected Sir\Miss[re=431485]
The Unfairman[/re]: You must live in Bachmann’s district, now go put on your purple #4 jersey and pray to TPAW.
Whenever I think about Norway being all peaceful and the no.1 best country to live in…
all I can think of is this:
http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/809/809618/pathfinder-unrated-20070731032707139-000.jpg
[re=431561]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: who knows.
maybe one day Somalia will be the no.1 best country.
[re=431522]Guppy06[/re]: Lighten up, hon. This is not the venue.
Another insight from Bill Kristol Ball.
This is picked by five guys sittin’ in a room (kinda like how American Idol is really picked…wake up sheepul). They had a list of 205 people in front of them, 204 of whom they never heard of and had to read all the biographical stuff. They probably wondered if they wanted to pick another mud-hut dwelling Catholic priest who had one eye plucked out by a prison guard and one leg chopped off by a ninja, while running an orphanage, or whether to choose some obscure European bureaucrat who spent a thousand hours dragging a thousand mosquito nets to a thousand children. Or, wait, why not Barry O? Old Europe could really stick it to George W Bush (even more than giving it to that climate whiner Gore and Jimmy Carter for God’s sake) and break it off in Bill Clinton for his SC remarks a year ago. Plus, there’s the added advantage of making every conservative’s head explode. I know how I’d vote.
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: Look, tard cart, when you are old enough to remember that, in your younger years, your ENTIRE CONTINENT was a desolate fucking wasteland because of war; being an effette intellectual who masturbates about peace isn’t such a bad thing.
They like peace because they KNOW war. They know it better than the non-military U.S.American’s who have never seen their neighborhoods decimated by firebombs and their friends crushed underneath tanks.
Sorry for no snark but STFU!
Wait, he has a newspaper column? Why?
[re=431545]Accordion-o-rama[/re]:
Well, no. He has always had the Megster to perform that laborious chore. And a damn thorough job she’s done so done since childhood. Particularly with regard to any box of 24 assorted donuts.
But I mean that in a good way.
ifthethunderdontgetya”: (Sorry, java not working and can’t klik’n'comment)
Billy’s great ideas were resurrected in the Bush Junior “ownership society” era. My employer was talked by a slick broker into going with a high-deductible health insurance policy, of the kind that Kristol would have liked – $5,000 per year deductible for my family. But Wait! It was coupled with a Health Savings Account which my employer gave me a whole $1K per year to fund, meaning that I still had to come up with $4K a year in cash to pay for shit. Yeah, it was pre-tax, but still… I stopped taking some of my medication because it was costing 400 fucking dollars a month, which was before it went generic… meanwhile I was paying only $40 less a pay in health insurance premiums than I was before this shit-ass plan. It was fucking bullshit and my employer finally got smart and dumped it after 3 years.
Meanwhile, during the same time my wife went to gay, commie Sweden on a grad school thing and got appendicitis during the trip. She went to a super-clean university hospital in gay, Marxist Stockholm and had it out on an emergency basis, plus stayed two nights to recover, plus they gave her a complete physical and a list of helpful suggestions to take home to her own doc (like “had trouble intubating patient during anesthesia, be careful if you have to do so in the future”). Total cost: $0.00. She was a fucking FOREIGNER and they didn’t fucking care.
Sorry, but this “ownership society”/Kristol/Gipper/Bush Junior shit really rubs me the own way when it’s people’s lives they’re playing with.
A troll!!! Can we keep it for the weekend?!
Pleeeeeeeeease?!!! Can we?! Can we?!
[re=431576]President Beeblebrox[/re]: No death panels? No rationed care? No doctors deciding to become lawyers for lack of income? And from what I understand these countries don’t give Big Pharma everything they ask for.
That’s the kind of change I’d like.
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: Hey douche nozzle, did you not actually read Spencer Ackerman’s bit up there? He pretty much nails it. Go read that, drink some decaf, read it again, sit on an egg and rotate, read it AGAIN…hell, just keep reading it until you learn something.
[re=431437]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: so awesome!
So, man, like where’s alt-texts? I mean, I know it’s not easy an’ all, but I kinda got used to them. Where are they, man? I mean, I can get used to not havin’ ‘em anymore an all, but, man,
I really need ‘em. I’m serious. WHERE ARE ALT-TEXTS?!!1!!!
In the spirit of mutual animosity, here’s a mild joke that a Norwegian told me.
What do the Swedes have that we don’t have?
Good neighbors!
EdFlinstone: Not sure about evolution, but they certainly disprove intelligent design.
[re=431587]DemmeFatale[/re]: “Swedes have short dicks and long memories.” Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
The Swedes are dildos.
These people are unbelievable.
And the more they complain about everything, the more we don’t have to listen to them about anything.
http://marmel.com/2009/10/obama-wins-nobel-conservatives-lose-their-minds/
This weekend David Broder will write an op-ed stating that in the interest of bipartisanship (more important to him than progress, peace, or sanity) Obama should offer to share the Nobel prize with a Republican, probably John McCain. McCain the warrior and only a warrior values peace.
[re=431479]mollymcguire[/re]: How does Kristol hold “a job”? A job? A J-O-B? How quaint. How very egalitarian. To be accurate, “How does Kristol hold ‘a position’?” One must ask Sully about that, or David Vitter.
[re=431594]Marmel[/re]:
please
start whoring
your website in
some sort of shape
Sorry, Mr. SpaceJunkie is evidently taking the night off.
but really, they are unbelievable? really? unbelievable??
[re=431555]chascates[/re]:
“It would be great if it was ACORN …”
Me, I would choose another islamo-terrorist group to get Barry’s Nobel money, such as the “HOPE Foundation”. That would give Glennda at least a month worth of prissy rants after his last session of electroshock therapy.
http://www.hopefoundation.ie/
[re=431603]S.Luggo[/re]: That looks like a very worthy cause. I noticed one of the corporate sponsors is Reed Elsevier, a book publisher. I was laid off from my job at a typesetting company which was bought by an Indian firm. Most all typesetting for books is done in India now and most printing, of textbooks anyway, is done in China.
Nice that Reed Elsevier is sponsoring this since they still charge ‘made in America’ prices for their books. But it looks like even a few dollars would go a long way for these kids.
I was wondering how long it would take the wingnut freeptards to make some kind of mush brained Obama/Polanski link up about this whole thing.
They never fail to disappoint.
Poor nutters. The only thing their guy brought home was a pair of shoes that were aimed at his head.
[re=431600]Suds McKenzie[/re]: The last time I blogwhored my internet sight, some blog cop showed up.
If only I’d a had a dozen Krispy Kremes to bribe him with!
~
OK, I’ll bite, What might that site be??
OK, at least McCain had a few brain cells left to grudgingly give Hopey some props. Meagan, take note sweetie….your Dad has more class than you on this one.
And Kristol, he is always, without fail, wrong. Perfect record!
[re=431611]Suds McKenzie[/re]: I can’t tell you, ’cause I got nottin’ right now.
So here’s short³ instead.
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[re=431574]davesnothere[/re]: Why? It’s because sophistry abhors a vacuum.
[re=431595]chascates[/re]:
Yes, McNuggets would be an excellent choice for the Peace Prize. To paraphrase, “Sometimes one must destroy a country to save it.”
In a world run by elephants, yes, he’d be a human dildo. Specially, Banana Republican elephants.
[re=431605]chascates[/re]: The point of my (perhaps obscure) post was, in the watery eyes of a neocon, the cause is not material but its name is, as well are all tangential inferences which might drawn from the name by the paranoiac mind off meds.
[re=431631]S.Luggo[/re]: I now get your choice of the charity name (Hope) and blame only Dekupers. I got the cinnamon schnapps instead of regular peppermint, thus was my irony meter mislead. Still it does look like a nice charity. And FUCK textbook publishers!
[re=431631]S.Luggo[/re]: There was a time when no two countries who had a McDonalds had ever gone to war with each other. So maybe McNuggets should get the Nobel Peace Prize.
Fuck Bill Kristol. Anything else?
Alright you geeks! I land in DC tomorrow! Prepare for a…nother geek shifting time zones.
[re=431522]Guppy06[/re]: Go away.
[re=431445]RoscoePColtraine[/re]: Most of the prizes are awarded by a committee of the Swedish Parliament, but the Peace Prize is awarded by a committee of the Norwegian Parliament. I think in Nobel’s day the two countries were sort of connected by a single monarch and some other things. Now they are totally disconnected and argue endlessly over petty differences.
Zhu Bajie, Norwegian-American
[re=431446]SayItWithWookies[/re]: In Bush’s case the prize would be a lifetime supply of lutefisk.
i’ll give him bonus points for not simply going with the expected zombie reagan screed that every wingtard has on a flash drive, ready to whip out on any occasion.
[re=431476]user-of-owls[/re]: Norwegians put melted butter on their lutefisk, Swedes a white sauce (or so I hear….)
[re=431451]Prof. Junk[/re]: If McCain were president, he’d get cancer and die and we’d be stuck with Pres. Palin.
[re=431484]Rotundo[/re]: Don’t forget the Forrestal Fire.
[re=431488]Dave J.[/re]: Does he get an exhibit at the Dan Quayle Museum?
[re=431571]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: They like peace because they KNOW war.
Thank you.
[re=431580]chascates[/re]: No death panels? No rationed care? No doctors deciding to become lawyers for lack of income? And from what I understand these countries don’t give Big Pharma everything they ask for. That’s the kind of change I’d like.
FUCKING COMMIE. If you don’t like it, chascates, go to Russia!
[re=431466]chascates[/re]: We can but hope they all turn out to be Ron Reagans.
[re=431605]chascates[/re]:
“I was laid off from my job at a typesetting company which was bought by an Indian firm. Most all typesetting for books is done in India now and most printing, of textbooks anyway, is done in China.”
As we jute smoking, bongo-playing, hep-cats would say in the late 60s, I hear you.
This started with Bilious Clinton (the best president the Republicans ever had) and his international treaties (agreed to by the then “capture the middle” pusillanimous Clintonite Dems), treaties paid for by US corps, which allowed good-paying US jobs to be shifted abroad.
With an increase in international trade, Clinton’s Reaganesque (rhymes with “burlesque”) theory was that a rising tide would sink, correction, would raise all boats. Did. Not. Happen. (Bizzarely, Paul Krugman was once a proponent of this ‘rising tide’ theory. FU, Krug, and your fucking Nobel Prize in macro-economics.) The US lost quality jobs, to replaced by hamburger-flipping occupations.
[Anyone still awake?] With the Clintonian furtherance of Globalism, in the late 90s some physicians would send their dictated patient notes, via voice upload, to a certain publicly-traded Indian company for typing. Transcription errors, to theorize, may have dampened use that service.
Long/short: hang in there.
[re=431635]Suds McKenzie[/re]:
Nope. Shared culture does not prevent conflict.
E.g.,
Notre Dame vs. Boston College.
Wang Shung vs. Ting-Ting
[re=431648]zhubajie[/re]: But they both put lye on their lutefisk. Yum.
[re=431660]S.Luggo[/re]: This started with the Bilious Clinton..and continues to this day- Hi Rahm!
Hills came out with a statement:
“Certainly from our standpoint, this gives us a sense of momentum-
when the United States has accolades tossed its way, rather than shoes.”
[re=431452]x111e7thst[/re]:
Human di,do or douchebaguette?
But they both put lye on their lutefisk
That’s so it won’t clog the toilet when they flush it down.
I’ve always wondered what the thought process was that came up with “you know what this fish could use? A little Drano.”
[re=431600]Suds McKenzie[/re]: Sorry, Mr. SpaceJunkie is evidently taking the night off.
[re=431594]Marmel[/re]: BLOG WHORE! Damn, this whore just does not get the hint. The banhammer has been far too inactive lately.
Anyhoo, I was out playing indoor soccer, a regularly-scheduled activity. I will try to be more attentive to my duties in future.
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: I live in Europe. I don’t know you personally, but I’m guessing that my life is better than yours.
Why doesn’t Kristol just “come out” as an understandably bloodthirsty angry Jew? It’s okay, Bill. You don’t have to side with NeoCons to defend Israel and Judaism–yes, many things go boom, but there are many weapons to go around, yes? You will never be Juval Aviv or any of the characters in Munich. Not to mention, Republicans really don’t care about Israel, if only for monetary reasons. Life in your head must be truly difficult.
Did Arizona State ever decide to give Obambi that honorary doctorate? Because Nobel Lauriates can probably be more selective about what schools they give speeches at in the future
http://wonkette.com/408534/408534
Why doesn’t Kristol just invent his rival no-peace prize?
[re=431681]Smoke Filled Roommate[/re]: Kristol, et al., don’t want to do military service, the way ordinary Israelis must.
As for Rep(tilians) and Israel, mainly the religious right supports Israel, and then only for the sake of their end-of-the-world fantasies. Israelis, justifiably, have long suspected the US would turn on them eventually.
I am all atwitter, in the older sense of the worde, as to what Dame Peggington Nooninghamshire will have to say about all this. Really, I am.
N (obel Peace Prize winning U.S. President Barack H) Obama, motherfuckers.
What about that high-and-mighty “Peace Prize” he done won? Look at what he got it for: He got it for “Peace!” We don’t want no damn peace! “Peace” equals “Treason” to all real Americans.
America has got to make a whole lot more war and kill a whole lot more brown-skinned people. Then we can bring the blessings of liberty and republicanism to the few stunned survivors, right?
Screw all them “Peace Prizes,” and especially, “Screw Peace!”
FWIW Hans Blix says Obama was a good choice, although it may just be Nordics sticking together.
If you judge Obama by the Bush standard … yeah yeah yeah.
Shorter Kristol: War is peace.
I’d like to nominate Kristol Meh for a lifetime Ignoble Chickenshit Prize for his dedication to being constantly on the wrong side of history and his cowardice, demanding US America to be in wars he isn’t willing to fight in.
[re=431650]zhubajie[/re]: I keep missing the Forrestal for some reason, eventually I’ll commit that one to the ol’ memory banks. Thanks for reminding me.
[re=431701]Paul Tardy[/re]: “Hans Brix? Ah no!”
Nobel awarded for ‘New Attitude’
Official Citation:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html
Obama acceptance speech (Draft)
(speech writer: Patti LaBelle – New Attitude)
I’m feelin’ good from my head to my shoes
Know where I’m goin’ and I know what to do
I tidied up my point of view
I got a new attitude
Runnin’ hot, runnin’ cold
I was runnin’ into overload
It was extreme, ex-ex-ex-ex-ex-extreme
It took it so high, so low
So low, there was nowhere to go
Like a dream
Somehow the wires uncrossed, the tables were turned
Never knew I had such a lesson to learn
I’m feelin’ good from my head to my shoes
Know where I’m goin’ and I know what to do
I tidied up my point of view
I got a new attitude
I’m in control, my worries are few
‘Cause I’ve got love like I never knew
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
I got a new attitude
Kristol is never going to win a Nobel, but one of his dad’s last actions was to enter him in the Westiminster show, and a lot of people think he’s got a good chance if he can only get that trot down cold.
I think Kristol should have gotten the Peace Prize, for helping to introduce the world to Sarah “Going Rogue” Palin. Or maybe Richard Perle. I think he would be an inspired pick for 2011.
[re=431452]x111e7thst[/re]: why not both?
[re=431674]Joshua Norton[/re]: they’re just trying to tenderize it a bit; the trick is adding JUST the right amount
Palin deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
She brought the world together in a grand, joyous ecstasy of agreement that she’s a nincompoop.
[re=431682]Bruno[/re]: An honorary degree from Arizona State. Now THAT would be embarrassing!
you know what really would have made Iraq peaceful?
Not fucking invading and bombing the shit out of Iraq in the first place. Dammit.
I like the inclination of the Ackerman quote, but there is a dangerous side to thinking our Hope-laureate is a ‘symbol.’ A symbol is exactly what he has become to the wingnut heathen: i.e the birfers, baggers, & butt-sniffers. Of course he has hit the long-stoked slag of the Kristolmachers, but (and it is a big ‘but,’ devoutly to unsniffed) he has also staked out a series of changes that won’t easily be overturned by some future ‘contract with Merica.’ That takes patience and brass cohones. No symbol that, just committed grit.
What a fucking dork. Not that that’s news that Kristol, and most Republican, got serious wedgies (sp?) in high school, but that post or article or whatever you want to call the sniveling drivel of his was just not funny and totally lame. Like, I’m not even offended or anything, because I’m just so unamused. I just want to pants him in the Fox News hallway and expose his skid marked britches. DORK!!!!
It would have been funny if Obama one the Nobel and the Ig Nobel.
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: You’re not for real, are you? Since I am about 40% ethnically Norweigian (the other 60% is what keeps me off the lutefisk), I was going award the Nobel Memorial Prize in Douchery to Bill Kristol, but guppy, you’re making a strong late showing. Deliberations continue late into the night, with aquavit, also.
Also, this part Norske/Svensk dude appreciates the lutefisk references and Swede jokes (my Norske did would love them too). Seriously, y’all are funnier than an episode of Prairie Home Companion.
No, really. That wasn’t meant as a dis. (Sorry.)
[re=431707]Rotundo[/re]: I thought that one was cuz a missile launched off of someone else’s jet, no?
I’m surprised Fox and Limpballs doesn’t think Judy Garland won the Nobel Prize for destroying the wicked witch and her flying chimps.
[re=431732]Crank Tango[/re]: One version of the story says the plane behind McCain’s somehow fired a missile which ruptured McCain’s fuel tank. McCain panicked & dropped two bombs into the fire, then ran away, hopping on a ‘copter which took him off the ship, while his shipmates stayed & fought the fire and (many of them) died.
Funny how Limpballs said on his show that Obama is a laughingstock to the world outside US America. Only in the drug-addled mind of a Dominican kid-diddler can winning the NPP = laughinstock.
Limpballs does have one thing in common with Robert Kennedy, though, he of the “I imagine how the world could be & ask: why not?” (paraphrase.) Rush broadcasts his thought of how he wishes the world was, which in some twisted way is sort of admirable, or might be if it weren’t so divorced from reality. It’s just that his vision of the world is one where non-white people are bombed back to the Stone Age, and govt exists solely to serve those with money.
We’ve had far too much of that since 1973. At least Obama is paying a bit more than lip service to a more equitable world. Not a great deal more than lip service, but it’s better than nothing.
Limpballs also had a screed about how he won’t get an H1N1 vaccination because–the Obama gummit says “you have to”. Rushbo strongly advises his following ‘gin it. It’s a left-wing conspiracy, natch. Which makes the obvious next step: Obama should announce that he and all good Americans are NOT GOING TO MARCH OVER CLIFFS AT THE GRAND CANYON. He might even make an executive order, depriving Americans of their RIGHT to hurl themselves over the rim of the Grand Canyon.
[re=431743]octupletsmom[/re]: Perhaps Roosh would take the vaccine if it was sold by big Pharma in smooth commercials and made his insurance company lots of dough. Or maybe he’d be interested when he finds he can’t leave the porcelain throne.
[re=431468]proudgrampa[/re]: Well, he IS also a douche nozzle and a guano faucet. Did someone also mention that today we are all Norwegians??
I am still enjoying the entire right wing implosion. What fun!!
[re=431747]proudgrampa[/re]: “today we are all Norwegians”
Oh, let’s make it for the long weekend, sir!
Skaal!
Who would win in a douche-off: Limpballs or Irving’s retarded son?
Billy isn’t just wrong about everything, he also has the pedigree of a douche. Rush, however, is a fat, angry racist whose hilarious failures outside the world of radio make him a worthy contender.
Taking bets now.
[re=431754]LeHanzka[/re]: Rush makes a lot more money, so he wins the douche-off. Otherwise, they should both be told that Obama is denying their right to walk off a cliff into the Grand Canyon.
~
[re=431492]EdFlinstone[/re]: They wish.
They appear to be rogues. Genetically.
[re=431743]octupletsmom[/re]: I strongly urge LimpDick and all his rabble to abstain not only from H1N1 vaccinations but from any and all medical treatment beyond Vicodin and Viagra abuse. I truly believe this would be for the best.
[re=431743]octupletsmom[/re]: He’s probably sponsored by Tamiflu!
It’s so fitting that we’re reading this at Wonkette.
[re=431759]x111e7thst[/re]: Ixnay! Must strongly urge that they avail themselves to all science-based medical treatments that modernity has to offer! Must strongly urge that they ABSTAIN from witch doctors and prayer-based “treatment”.
[re=431479]mollymcguire[/re]: Legacy admissions and merit by association.
[re=431522]Guppy06[/re]: You do know Obama lost the race in Iran, right?
[re=431764]octupletsmom[/re]: I would like them all to die ask quickly as possibe. Why do you want them to live?
He should have won a Razzie instead.
http://democralypsenow.com/why-cant-obama-get-shoes-not-nobels-tossed-at-him-like-a-normal-us-president/
[re=431732]Crank Tango[/re]: There were two planes on decks with pilots in them, and one happened to be the one with world class fuck-up McCain on it. So there is a good 50% chance of him being the guilty party (if you ignore McCain’s track record with acting in any sort of competent manner).
Though the fact daddy got him helicoptered off the ship while they were still putting out the fire seems pretty telling.
[re=431768]x111e7thst[/re]: Um, short answer: I don’t.
[re=431682]Bruno[/re]: What does it say about how crazy things are here that the President can get a Nobel Peace Prize but not an honorary doctorate from generic American diploma mill known more for partying and football than anything else.
And what does it say about how crazy things are here that the President winning the Nobel Peace Prize is not only jeered by large segments of the commentari/opposition party but it somehow gets turned into a exhaustive debate about whether it’s good politically or bad politically for the person who won the prize.
Only in American could winning the Peace Prize be turned into a bad thing to win.
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: Spiro Agnew much?
[re=431571]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: Exactly.
BK has an expression on his face that indicates either he is constipated or dying to masturbate to Sarah Palin’s book.
How can he have a good weekend?
i don´t understand this prize. This prize is the “promises ” prize.
http://www.peoplevents.blogspot.com/
[re=431776]Hooray For Anything[/re]: A diploma mill whose official football rally sign is the Shocker, no less.
McCorpse?! Oh, yeah. I forgot. He’s a Hero, gawdammit! And the Nobel Peace Prize is worthy of any Hero that subscribes to and employs the principles of the Book of Raygun, the ends (the flag of Jeebus, LLC flying in an oil-rich nation) justifies the means (lotsa corpses of foreign heathens).
Fuck you, Kristol!
[re=431776]Hooray For Anything[/re]: When we look back, in twenty years or so, at President Obama’s first term in office, this Right Wing effort to disparage his winning of the highest international award available will likely be seen as the point at which where the Republicans’ hateful, racist affronts finally, “Jumped the shark.”
The American people, and the world’s people at large, know how important this award is. To attempt to lampoon it or demean the “Nobel Prize for Peace” only makes one appear a fool for trying.
I wish Irving Kristol were alive so I could kill him again.
[re=431770]glamourdammerung[/re]: [re=431737]hobospacejunkie[/re]: wow.
[re=431786]kipperthegod[/re]: I think you just gave the shorter [re=431784]Athar[/re]quote.
[re=431784]Athar[/re]: actually, I think from the perspective of history, this whole year, or perhaps even his entire presidency will look like some crazy obstacle course full of shark tanks and flaming hoops, one after the other, after the other, after the other.
[re=431792]Crank Tango[/re]: so there’s no telling how many times Obama’s jumped the shark.
[re=431794]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: LOL I think Obama is still in the “pre-leather jacket fonzie phase.” I have yet to see him fix anything by bumping it with his fist. Maybe he needs that leather jacket…
A Peace Prize to “Wet-Start” McCain?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(cue Karaoke Beach Boys)
“No-no-no, no-no-Nobel … NO-NO-NO, NO-NO-NOBEL …”
[re=431505]Guppy06[/re]: You are so amusing when you come out from under your rock every month or so to troll here. Extra props for mentioning that peaceful Iranian revolution in support of the guy that had that whole “mass execution of political opponents” when he was Prime Minister, though you forgot to mention the “law-abiding regime” in Honduras that Obama is picking on for no reason.
[re=431770]glamourdammerung[/re]: Gee, after you’re done explaining how McCain is responsible for the Forrestal accident, will you explain for us how the Jews and/or the CIA was responsible for the WTC collapse on 9/11?
And if you have time after that, how NASA faked the moon landings back in the 1970s?
Thank you.
Oh, and the whole UFO/Roswell thingie?
I, for one, welcome Lunatic Liberal Theories. Including the one that Hopey is entitled to the NPP.
[re=431809]Neilist[/re]: I did not realise that posting that McCain was one of the two pilots in planes in the accident and was helicoptered out while they were still fighting the fire was a conspiracy theory since it was true and verifiable and such.
Sorry for dissing on your hero though, even though I figure you are simply trolling to be trolling. I guess even you got tired of your Bhutto joke.
[re=431809]Neilist[/re]: There is a very simple requirement to determine if the President is entitled to the NPP. He was awarded it. I’m tired of trying to engage this topic as if it were a real debate, so I’ll just give you a proportionally intellectual response to your counter-point:
Suck on it.
[re=431809]Neilist[/re]: “I, for one, welcome Lunatic Liberal Theories. Including the one that Hopey is entitled to the NPP.”
Yeah, that whole “reviving an international campaign toward global nuclear disarmament” thing is just so totally fucking lame! Besides, what are the odds? He oughta be getting a Nobel Inevitable Fail Prize instead, amirite? Sorry, Mr. President – Nobel Peace Prizes are for closers!
Not to mention putting an end to eight years of “American Diplomacy At Gunpoint” … man, that fragging-other-people’s-kids-based-on-total-bullshit(-as-long-as-they’re-too-weak-to-fight-back) thing was SO HAWT!
It really should’ve gone to Shakira instead!
Or maybe Your Mom.
What bars are good around union station?
[re=431814]bago[/re]: Capitol City Brewing is right across the street.
[re=431809]Neilist[/re]: Nobody is entitled to the NPP. It is awarded by the NPP committee, and was in no way a product of a lobbying campaign on the president’s behalf. And despite the right-wing whiners pretending otherwise, it says only good things about Obama & US America that the committee decided that Obama’s decision to engage the world in dialog rather than continue W’s destructive habit of playing ‘my way or the highway’ is worthy of recognition, encouragement and plaudits. The world is saying they want a sane US involved in world affairs, and implying that they want a strong counterweight to China’s growing influence.
Entitlement & deserving are words that have no relevance here. The committee made their decision and their message is clear. The wingtards can follow or get out of the way & continue their march to oblivion which demographics & their inability to govern effectively will ensure happens in the coming decades.
[re=431809]Neilist[/re]: Here’s another fact about John McFail, from Frank Rich: “To appreciate this crowd’s spotless record of failure, consider its noisiest standard-bearer, John McCain.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/opinion/11rich.html
You know why the ‘Thuglicans and Wingtards hate Frank Rich? He keeps linking to those pesky facts when he slices and dices.
BTW, as far as the Forrestal fire goes:
The horrible things were:
The most highly trained firefighters were the first to be killed in the explosions.
Untrained firefighters washed the retardant foam away with salt water hoses, which spread the fire and caused more deaths.
But the good things are:
Because of this disaster, every sailor in the US Navy is now trained in firefighting.
Carrier deck operations — like when and how to arm ordnance — are vastly improved.
Lastly: we need to keep Kristol and McFail around, so we can ask them what do to, and then do the exact opposite. Thus, we need to follow the lead of Alexander the Great, the British, and the Soviets, and GTFO Afghanistan.
As long as they are handing out Nobel Peace Prizes to people involved in wars and non-peace, then let’s get the whole line up–
Alberto Gonzales
Donald Rumsfeld
the good people at Blackwater
and last, but certainly a snake—
Dick Cheney
I’m taking bets on which Conservative will be the first to float the theory that the Nobel Peace Prize committee gave Obama the award because they all secretly hope that he will use his trip to the ceremony to secretly fly to Switzerland and rescue Roman Polanski.
…because Roman Polanski has Obama’s birth certificate and is threatening to give it to O RLY Taitz unless he is set free.
[re=431819]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: i’m still hoping that the committee gave him the prize just to piss off conservatives. shadenfraude!
also, they might have just decided to give it to the united states as a de facto “most improved country” award.
[re=431809]Neilist[/re]: Not ALL Jews (I, for one, swear I am completely innocent, although I’m only half so maybe I just don’t get invited to the better conspiracies), and not the WHOLE CIA, although the PNAC definitely included both Jews and CIA operatives, so I’ll give you a half point on that one.
r.e. the faked moon landing, don’t you find it suspicious that all of the actual witnesses to the moon landing will soon be dead? (I’m kidding about that one)
There is great evil in the world. There are more conspiracies than there are theories.
Yay, Obama! He should get a prize, or recognition, for opening dialogue with various opposing nations. But a PEACE prize? For enlarging the war in Afghanistan, and for drone-bombing Pakistan? Prize yes, but certainly not for “peace”.
In the context of Persidential meetings on trying to find a goal to the killing of Afghanis, other than General McChristol’s request for 40,000 more bodies, the Nobel committee obviously intended this prize as a stinging rebuke, and urgent reminder to shape up and institute change.
PS I declined to be nominated because I advocate bombing everyone on K Street. {blushing modestly} Sure, I deserve a prize, but not for “peace”.
[re=431815]problemwithcaring[/re]: Turns out I met some lesbian and got taken to Phase 1. Apparently this is a very gay weekend.
[re=431792]Crank Tango[/re]: You are entirely correct, that is very likely going to be the title of a future history of the Obama Presidency: “In The Shark Tank.”
Seriously though, this move, to attack our President for winning such a prestigious and highly respected award, might well be seen by the average American as the Right Wing’s, “Bridge Too Far.”
[re=431732]Crank Tango[/re]: “McCain’s most horrendous loss occurred in 1967 on the USS Forrestal. Well, not horrendous for him. The starter motor switch on the A4E Skyhawk allowed fuel to pool in the engine. When the aircraft was “wet-started,” an impressive flame would shoot from the tail. It was one of the ways young hot-shots got their jollies. Investigators and survivors took the position that McCain deliberately wet-started to harass the F4 pilot directly behind him. The cook off launched an M34 Zuni rocket that tore through the Skyhawk’s fuel tank, released a thousand pound bomb, and ignited a fire that killed the pilot plus 167 men. Before the tally of dead and dying was complete, the son and grandson of admirals had been transferred to the USS Oriskany.”
http://www.wclt.com/news/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261
[re=431838]Way Cool Larry[/re]: What a stupid hotdog! I have seen grainy old film footage of that cluster-fuck on the Forrestal several times. It’s one of those almost iconic clips for carrier aviation wonks and followers of aviation history generally. The identity of the most famous participant had never, however, been mentioned. I had no idea until now that Senator, “I’m suspending my campaign,” was even involved. Sounds about right though.
[re=431838]Way Cool Larry[/re]: Regardless of McCains “wet starting” his engines, it was his plane that was hit with the rocket. “Caused” roughly translates into scaring the pilot behind him enough to make him jerk the yoke and launch the rocket. He also wasn’t alone on that helicopter being evacuated from the burning carrier, everyone who was not involved in fire suppression was evacuated because they thought the big bitch was about to explode and sink.
Balance that against the 8 years he spent in a NV prison camp and the partial loss of the use of both arms he suffered as a result and while you can argue that he didn’t shower himself in glory, he did serve the country and unlike…oooh, Billy Meth and the rest of the PNAC/WaPo editorial board, he did pull his hitch. He put his ass out their where harm was running amok and he paid the price.
That said, McCain would have been a poor President, Hopey was a much better choice, but either one of them would have been light years better than Dick and George.
Republicans, as a rule, suck…also.
[re=431813]lulzmonger[/re]: “It really should’ve gone to Shakira instead!”
Loathe though I am to agree with most of the things said in here, I agree with you on on this one: Shakira DEFINITELY is more deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize than Hopey. She certainly has done more to promote world peace and understanding during her career than “Afghanistan Barack.” And she is a MUCH better dancer. But I admire your courage to state such an opinion in here.
[re=431811]glamourdammerung[/re]: Yes, you just “accidently” mentioned McCain’s presence on the Forrestal at the time of the accident. You clearly didn’t mean to imply any causual connection whatsoever, and your reference was simply a random event. Like most Lib-Tard Reasoning.
By the way, did you know that there were JEWS in the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11?!?! (Except for Gurukalehuru, apparently.) But I’m not implying anything.
[Gesh: This is what comes of not making Rhetoric, or at least Basic Logic/Fundamentals of Reasoning a required course.]
[re=431812]comicbookguy[/re]: “There is a very simple requirement to determine if the President is entitled to the NPP. He was awarded it.”
Applying your reasoning, I assume you feel that Henry “Blood on His Hands” Kissinger also was “entitled” to the Nobel Prize — because he, too, “was awarded it.” Under the same “logic,” Adolf Hitler would have been “entitled” to the NPP had it been awarded to him in 1938 or 1939, as proposed. (BTW: Did you know that Kissinger is a JEW, like the JEWS in the World Trade Center Towers!?!?!)
[re=431817]memzilla[/re]: Ah, yes, Frank Rich. But, Memzilla, why not quote someone whose views about the Forrestal fire are closer to yours?, e.g.,
http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forresta.htm
I recognizse that you probably are already familiar with this author, and agree with his theories. So I’ll just quote the conclusion for the benefit of your Wonkette colleagues:
“Is There Any Truth To This?
McCain’s various stories never added up. Somehow, he was at the center of the USS Forrestal fire. His father covered up the biggest war crime in American naval history, the USS Liberty attack, and saved Israel. Now, McCain is shot down over Vietnam, and the Jewish/Communists supposedly tortured him half to death? After what McCain’s father did for the Communists, he could have demanded anything.”
I’m sorry, Memzilla, but I don’t agree with this kind of anti-Semitic, illogical, and unsupported/contradicted lunacy. But I support your right to. BTW: Did you know that there were “JEWISH/COMMUNISTS” in the World Trade Center Towers?!?! They had offices in Tower 2, right next to those of the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. (Report is that Bunny is kosher, and in on the plot as well.)
[re=431823]gurukalehuru[/re]: Okay, I’ll take your word for it: You’re off the hook for 9/11.
But since “You People” control the World’s Economy from that Giant Ice Cave Buried Underneath The North Pole, can you loan me $20? Or better yet, buy me a bagel? (Salt, not toasted, tomato and red onion, with just a TEENY bit of cream cheese. No, less than that. No, LESS. Okay, there.)
BTW: Did you know that there were JEWISH/COMM . . . .Oh, what a minute. Never mind.
Future Final Exam Question for Extra Points: Compare and contrast the failed, one-term Presidencies of Barack “Hopey” Obama and Jimmie “Man From Hope, Georgia” Carter.
[Nb. Answers will be marked down for answers included in the phrase "N*&gger Rigged" -- particularly when used in reference to President Carter's family members, staff, or foreign policy.]
And this just in! Benzair Bhutto is STILL Dead!
She was killed by . . . :::wait for it::: . . . WOLVERINESSSSSSSSSSS!!!
[re=431817]memzilla[/re]:
The USS Forestfire footage is still used for training future carrier-based sailors on what not to do when fighting a flight or hangar deck fire.
[re=431841]dijetlo[/re]:
McCorpse’s arms were broken by his ejection from the tiny A-4 cockpit, not by his North Vietnamese captors. Perhaps he should have rehearsed the NATOPS emergency procedures more often.
[re=431846]Neilist[/re]: About that future exam … false premise, false hope = no test tomorrow! About you … what is your problem? Troll on meth, maybe?
[re=431837]Athar[/re]: Yeah I just don’t see them stopping. There will be more bridges, there will be more sharks jumped. Just when you think they can’t get any lower (cheering a US city getting eliminated from hosting the olympics), they trash our president for getting the NPP.
It is pretty cool to think of what they will come up with next.
And did that dickhead Billy Kristol really say he had done more for peace than Obama? In what respect, Billy?
[re=431848]BeWoot[/re]: meh, Neilist is just a gun nut who jerks off to the Palin photos on Wonkette.
I would like to know WHO he thinks is going to defeat Barry in 2012? because I just dont see that happening right now.
Aw guys, any regular on this board knows Neilist is a rabble-rouser who likes getting y’all stirred up. Why bother engaging him? He probably knows “entitled” was a poor choice of words because it’s one of those code words the anti-affirmative action crowd will use when complaining about preferential treatment of minorities in college admissions and welfare programs and whatnot, and so he used it to get a reaction. Just ignore him, it will probably drive him nuttier.
And that whole “McCain started the Forrestal fire” thing was slapped down by factcheck.org a long time ago. McCain’s A4 was parked on the other side of the flight deck from the plane that launched the rocket that hit either his plane or the one next to it. WALNUTS’s plane’s engine was at the time pointed out over the edge of the flight deck, so even if he was wet-starting it for effect it wasn’t pointed towards any other plane so wasn’t likely to startle anyone. It’s just an accident of history that he was there and managed to get out of his plane before the fire caused any bombs to cook off (the pilot in the next plane was not so lucky.) He did get much criticism later for hopping a helicopter to Saigon when even untrained sailors were trying to save the ship, but if he was fleeing he’s the one who has to live with it.
After he was shot down other pilots criticized him for having taken an unnecessary risk to drop his bombs on the target in the middle of heavy AAA fire. One wonders if his natural recklessness combined with some secret guilt that maybe he had fled the Forrestal in fear a couple of months before led him to take the risk. We’ll never know but it’s interesting to contemplate.
[re=431846]Neilist[/re]: An important thing to remember about Jewish people: we (they – I’m never really sure which pronoun I want to use there) don’t necessarily all like each other very much.
If the Palestinians were given a homeland in, say for instance, Arizona, there would be a civil war in Israel within a month. I’m not sure what the fault line would be – North v. South, Urban v. Kibbutz, Ashkenazi v. Sephardic or (where I’d put my money, were I a betting man) religious v. secular, but you have a race of people who are heavily armed and have a rather morbid need for conflict. Two jews, three synagogues, as they say.
[re=431743]octupletsmom[/re]: The gummit also says you can’t fuck children, so that explains his trips to the Dominican Republic.
A swine flu vaccination can’t help a filthy scatmunching pig, anyways.
btw, I LOVE Sarah Silverman’s plan for ending world hunger.
What, is nobody covering the big gay parade?
[re=431847]Servo[/re]: Wait a minute, this guy bailed out of four airplanes…which in the aviation world would pretty much qualify him for the Nobel Prize for Bailing out of Airplanes…but he fucked up the fifth attempt? What, did he have his arm hanging out the window? Was he flicking his Marlboro with one hand while punching out with the other? I guess after four successful ejections he was getting a little…”eh, no big deal” about the whole thing.
The lack of medical care is why he can’t raise them above his shoulders today, I’ll stand by my point but thanks for the heads up, I assumed the North Vietnamese broke his arms though discovering it was General Dynamics shouldn’t be a shocker.
[re=431822]obfuscator[/re]: After wading through what feels like five hundred acres or so of blog flop about Obama’s Nobel Prize, your “most improved country award” is the WIN.
Though originally in some doubt about Barry’s merit of a Nobel so soon, I’ve been convinced by Bill Kristol’s column that it’s completely deserved. Thanks, Bill Kristol, for being so consistently wrong about everything. You’re like a Magic 8-ball, only better…in a way.
[re=431857]dijetlo[/re]: any idea how much those five planes cost?
[re=431846]Neilist[/re]: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
BIG GAY PARADE PEOPLE! You can spare in intern for that, can’t you?
[re=431861]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: It’s not as if they run out and buy another one when you wreck the one they gave you.Having served in the US Army I can tell you one of it’s redeeming features is that they buy extra death machines so in case of mayhem, you always have the proper tools.
[re=431776]Hooray For Anything[/re]: “And what does it say about how crazy things are here”
It says that a lot of people really hate this president.
[re=431852]imissopus[/re]:
WALNUTS’s plane’s engine was at the time pointed out over the edge of the flight deck, so even if he was wet-starting it for effect it wasn’t pointed towards any other plane so wasn’t likely to startle anyone.
With the exception of the Alert 5 fighter, I’ve never seen a jet aircraft started on a carrier in any other position but with the ass over the rail. There is no startling of anybody with an engine start. Every single person on the flight deck has been extensively taught about the hazards of the environment and to maintain 360° of situational awareness at all times. Complacency can almost guarantee death.
[re=431857]dijetlo[/re]:
McCorpse’s muppet arms and stature are the handiwork of the Douglas Aircraft Company, particularly the cockpit width and that explosive ESCAPAC seat.
[re=431861]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]:
To be honest, the Douglas A-4 Skyhawk was a rare bargain for the taxpayers. Easy to fly (except for one individual), easy to maintain, and employed by all military branches. We even got a little gravy by selling them to other nations. Contrary to McCorpse’s boasting, it’s not a fighter. It’s an attack (strike/bomber) aircraft. Yes, it had guns, but only a quick squirt worth of ammo.
[re=431826]villageatrois[/re]: Ehh, bombing Pakistan? Isn’t this good in the eyes of the Nobel prize committee? I had been under the impression Nobel made all is $, Kronars, Dong, etc from inventing dynamite. BOMBS ARE GOOD. WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU SHEEPLE?
[re=431868]Servo[/re]: That thing was rocket powered, wasn’t it?
Does that mean McCain is technically an astronaut?
[re=431846]Neilist[/re]: In fact, I said nothing about McFail’s culpability or lack of same in the Forrestal disaster. Everything you say I that think is imputation. So, FAIL.
BTW, you really need to watch what you say to New Yawkers about 9/11… especially New Yawkers who lost people in the towers.
Were it possible to go back in time, I would have gladly paid for your Tuesday breakfast at Windows on the World. And your carfare.
Kristol says we should give a peace prize to the guy who helped start the war in Iraq because after many years, billions of dollars wasted, and hundreds of thousands killed, he also promoted a strategy that seems to have helped lessen the death toll? Um, yeah. I guess that’s why it’s called kristol-meth.
Silly me. I used to think nothing could make me look forward to a Monday morning. Then I started reading Wonkett on Sundays.
And yeah, I’m looking in the mirror too.
[re=431848]BeWoot[/re]: “[F]alse premise, false hope . . . .”
BeWoot: That’s an excellent start on your answer re the failed Obama administration. But you’ll need to throw in a few “X Files” type conspirarcy theories to get full credit.
How about: “The Right conspired to use CIA Mind Control techniques, invented by the Israelis, to cause Hopey to get a blow job from a fat white girl in a Beret”?
BTW: Did you know that Monica LewinSKI was JEWISH!?!? (Not that I’m implying anything. It’s just an on-going homage to Glamor’s “reasoning techniques.”
[Trolls do meth? Really? Are they JEWISH/COMMUNIST trolls?]
[re=431852]imissopus[/re]: “Just ignore him, it will probably drive him nuttier”? Gesh, is that an admission/challenge that that I can get “nuttier”? Oh, boy: A goal to SHOOT for. (If you’ll pardon that imagery.)
[re=431853]gurukalehuru[/re]: Guruka: Actually, I solved the Middle East “problem” a long time ago. My “final solution” (whoops) goes like this:
1. Move all the Israelis to France. All the religious sites, too, e.g., Temple Mount; Wailing Wall, etc. The works. Bechtel can handle the engineering/construction. France is MUCH nicer that Palestine in terms of the environment, resources, location, etc. If we move the religious stuff, no sensible Israeli could possibly complain about having to live in Paris, drink wine, eat Frenchbread, etc.
2. Give the Palestinians what is left of Israel. They can use tarps or stucco or Plaster of Paris or whatever to hide the steel girders that are holding up the Dome of the Rock, etc. But this is a small price to pay for a Palestinian homeland, and no sensible Palestinian could possibly complain, etc.
3. Move all the French to the West Bank, and tell the Palestinians to “manage them.” That way, when the World turns on the news, and sees the Palestinian Self Defense Forces shooting/
bombing/shelling the Living Sh&^%$T out of some Gitane-smoking, beret wearing, cheese-eating surrender monkeys, we all will have only one thought/reaction: “Gee, I hope those nice Palestinians have enough BULLETS.”
Okay. So where’s MY Nobel Peace Prize?
[re=431876]memzilla[/re]: What you said speaks for itself, including your clearly intended implication. That you resort to threats of physical violence to try to deflect from the record of your statements only confirms your intellectual dishonesty. Perhaps you should be “careful” about engaging in a debate with anyone, about anything, until you learn the constraints imposed by any claim to legimate argument/discourse.
Nonetheless, I am sorry if “reason” and “logic” and “catching you up” offends you. If it is any comfort, you are not alone in here re your preferences.
[re=431880]Neilist[/re]: I dunno about meth…I sorta picture you sitting at home drinking clear alcohol all day and getting off on the smell of your own farts.
but hey, wolverines!, right?
Oh, I almost forgot: Benazir Bhutto is STILL dead!
[re=431883]Crank Tango[/re]: Crank, as I told Group Captain Mandrake, I drink only rainwater and grain alcohol . . . .
Sorry. There’s the phone. I think it’s President Muffly again.
I’d say “See you later,” but I don’t think there’s gonna be one.
[re=431875]dijetlo[/re]:
An ejection is a two-part explosive sequence. The first being the initial kick in the ass to remove the seat and it’s contents from the aircraft. The second is the rocket burn to clear the seat and contents of the aircraft (you don’t want a hot pitot tube or vertical stab up your ass at 200 KIAS).
Douglas’ ESCAPAC used a large, single charge to provide the initial step. This hard, sudden explosion was famous for injuring pilots. Martin-Baker, on the other hand, used multiple reduced charges (3 in the GRU-7 seats that I worked on) to dampen the blast and save some spines from over-compression.
The only usefulness of McCorpse being an astronaut would be as a re-entry shield.
[re=431879]user-of-owls[/re]: “Then I started reading Wonkette on Sundays.”
Where you here for Labor Day Weekend? The horror, … the horror.
Speaking of reason and logic. This builds the case better than I could. It’s a long clip (11′), but then reason and logic take time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o
[re=431879]user-of-owls[/re]: The Sunday Wonkette magazine, edited by Neil P Neilist. Inciteful [sic] articles on health, fitness, fashion and current events.
I’m going to go chill at Mcnaughton Fine Art, and let my brains get stimulated.
[re=431888]Suds McKenzie[/re]: Every weekend hints at the madness of a three-day weekend, but never quite attains it. Some weekends are better than others, though. Interpret that how you will.
Is it too late to start ragging on Peggy Noonan?
it’s like a withdrawal period, except even having to think of bill kristol makes me want to go back on drugs. I am not even sure if that is a coherent thought, yet I am going to hit “submit comment” anyway.
[re=431891]NYNYNY[/re]: [re=431888]Suds McKenzie[/re]: Oh god, please tell me Juli isn’t half-Italian or half-Mayan.
[re=431882]Neilist[/re]: “That you resort to threats of physical violence..”
The argumentum ad baculum (I use the term broadly) has a long and honorable history that reaches at least from “Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam” (attributed to the elder Cato) and Churchill’s “We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans..”, to the schoolyard nearest you.
I see no reason that it should not also be welcome in Wonkettes comments.
[re=431887]Servo[/re]: I was thinking of our new and improved Moon war.
[re=431894]hoosiermama[/re]: It’s never too late to skewer the Dame Nooners. Much like the Moon, she’s always asking for it.
As for the rest of it, there are two things to remember about conspiracies.
Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead.
Don’t ascribe an event to dark, complex machinations when incompetence and stupidity will suffice. Consider the entire pResidency of George “Shrub” Bush. In a hundred years, it will be blamed on that vile cabal currently referred to as “The Baptists” but everybody alive today knows that’s not true.
It was those damn P’nacing Jews because it’s always the Jews.
[re=431897]x111e7thst[/re]: sorry for being the Latin-Nazi that I am,(but 2 years of Classical, College-Level Latin will do that to ya) but it’s most often phrased: “Carthago delenda est.” (roughly: “All other things being said, Carthage must/will be destroyed.”)
[re=431887]Servo[/re]: All that detail, and you fail to mention the Man/Seat Separator? You know, that explosively tightened strap that when behind your back, and between your legs, that was designed to throw you out of the seat so that your chute wouldn’t get tangled up in the hardware on deployment?
And which gave you a World Class Shot-In-The-Nuts when it went off? (Almost as bad as the Nut Shots I give in here? Or I am I just Shooting Nuts? Whatever.)
[re=431897]x111e7thst[/re]: You’re confusing the concept/idea of “Whether Violence Works” with that of “Whether a resort to violence/physical threat indicates a flaw in reasoning/facts/position, etc.”
Two different things.
Violence (outside of rhetoric) USUALLY works, particularly in the short term. That’s why people resort to it so often. The point is that Carthage WAS destroyed, even though it took the Romans three wars to do it. With Germany, we’re only up to two wars — and counting, possibly.
Although, under my Middle East Peace Plan, the Germans will have less incentive to act up again. They will be too busy watching CNN’s coverage of the Palestinians hammering the French.
[re=431891]NYNYNY[/re]: That “incite-ful” was good. Points to you.
Dulce et decorum est, pro Wonkettea mori!
[re=431899]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: Actually, Cato the Elder usually ended his speeches with:
“Bhutto filia Benazir delenda TAMEN est!”
And occasionally:
GULO GULOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine]
(I just made myself laugh. I hate when that happens.)
[re=431578]DemmeFatale[/re]: Well, who is going to feed it and clean up the shit it spews??
[re=431899]GreatOldOnesParty[/re]: It is, usually. And Churchill is most often quoted as:
“we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets”. I like mine better.
[re=431900]Neilist[/re]: But I don’t feel confused dearest one.
In any case a resort to the threat of harm/violence may or may not indicate a flaw in reasoning.
Valid:
If you smoke you will have an increased risk of cancer
Therefore you should not smoke
Invalid :
If you commit sin you will go to hell
Therefore you should give generously to this most holy of religious organizations.
Probably invalid but strangely appealing:
If Neilist continues to express those opinions people will do him harm.
Therefore etc.
[re=431648]zhubajie[/re]: I use butter on my lutefisk – so Swedes are dildos!
[re=431488]Dave J.[/re]: Do we get to laugh on him and vomit at him?
[re=431749]octupletsmom[/re]: Hold on there, Björna! You may pass the Lutefisk platter, but I’ll take on any of you’s mutterfukkers when it comes to the Gammelost-gobbling competition – and the Akevitt only come after you’ve chewed and swallowed the cheese….
why is there no coverage of that AWESOME shootout in ohio, hhhhngggg?
[re=431729]DangerousLiberal[/re]: [re=431908]Bearbloke[/re]: Having had a Danish GF some years ago, I developed a taste for Gammel Dansk (http://www.gammeldansk.dk), which perfectly complements gammelost and lutefisk in gack-iness.
Scandahoovianally speaking, the wording of the original label is “prohibited in Sweden,” so you have to love it just for that.
Although the drink was invented in 1964, I like to believe that it was actually prototyped by the Vikings.
Many of the ingredients are those which you would find if you were so desperate for alcohol that you would dig under rocks and — besides finding the progenitors of Bill Kristol and certain commenters here — scrape eveything into a barrel and let it ferment, since you only knew how to rape and pillage, not farm or brew.
Flaunting knowledge of Latin is one of the seven key attributes of a Red State commenter/editor.
50 reasons why Obama should NOT have won the Nobel:
http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize-hell_10.html
[re=431909]ladymacbeth[/re]: I like to give my complete, undivided attention to the Wonkett comments section on the weekend, so the outside world is meaningless unless it has something to do with Bill Kristol as human dildo, or lutefisk. Quite possibly both.
[re=431911]NYNYNY[/re]:
A detailed knowledge of Latin, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, and Pride?
Are we sure about this?
[re=431911]NYNYNY[/re]: e pluribus unum??
[re=431912]Joshfulton.blogspot[/re]
You didn’t even format your link!
It may be Sunday, but Good Lord man! This is Wonkette, we have standards for blog whoring!
If you wish to proposition us with your tawdry and dubious charms, you’ll need to exhibit some intellectual coquetry, you’re just the digital equivalent of a bar girl who makes a back and forth fisting motion in front of her open mouth to every swinging dick that walks into the room. I feel cheapened by the experience of just reading your post and would not consider delving into the rank, wretched confines of your well trodden blog!
Good day to you Sir, Good day!
[re=431912]Joshfulton.blogspot[/re]: Jeez, I’m so glad that the prize has irritated not only the bitter, fading neo-con wingnutz but also the self righteous, self involved leftards. (BTW, Heller vs. DC was decided in May 2008, a full 7 months before Hopey was elected. Pretty hard for Obama’s DOJ to file an amicus brief on that case. You’re an ass)
[re=431912]Joshfulton.blogspot[/re]: Yet, as I’m sure you have noticed, President Obama did WIN THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, yes he did, indeed.
Now, if I might be so bold as to suggest, you really should just run along, and go screw yourself.
[re=431912]Joshfulton.blogspot[/re]: 50 dicks in a bag. Guess what you should do with them…
[re=431918]dijetlo[/re]: Your nineteenth century exposition about a twenty-first century offense is well crafted, indeed.
Please, kind sir, be a good fellow and forward a carbonaceous copy to Mr. Marmel, won’t you? I believe he also lives on Bloghörenstraße.
[re=431912]Joshfulton.blogspot[/re]: I agree with the foregoing Wonketteers’ statements, and I would like to add:
GET A HOBBY! (model railroads are nice) or GO TO GRAD SCHOOL, OR SOMETHING!
[re=431911]NYNYNY[/re]: More like “Flaunting knowledge of Latin by posting incorrect Latin is one of the seven key attributes of a Red State commenter/editor.”
Well, it’s technically monday, and I want to see wonkette on something big and gay.
[re=431846]Neilist[/re]: Tell you what champ. Try to refute a single thing I stated instead of trying to insult me.
[re=431928]glamourdammerung[/re]: Neilist does not “refute.” He hollers and insults and makes pithy comments and loooooong posts in the hope of distracting you from noticing that he has no real argument to make. He is, as Ross Perot used to say, all hat and no cattle.
At least that’s his online persona. In the real world I’m sure he’s a total cupcake who likes nothing more than a rainy day, a cup of Raspberry Zinger tea, and his cat Mr. Snuggles purring contentedly on his lap. It’s his way of relaxing before he heads to the nearest college campus to choose the next coed he’ll take back to his dungeon to skin alive while he fucks the barrel of one of his shotguns. I flummoxed him once by explaining straw man arguments to him, which you’d think would not have been necessary to explain to an (alleged) lawyer. Don’t let him bug ya.
Ah, sheesh, Blingee. For fuck’s sake, don’t let Neilist get to ya.
[re=431876]memzilla[/re]: The whole “don’t talk to New Yawkers” like that is somewhere between mildly irritating and unbelievably stupid. It’s the same as “Don’t Mess With Texas.”
The fact that you live somewhere on the same island as the former World Trade Center buildings doesn’t give you any inside knowledge whatsoever about what happened on that day. None. Zippo. Nada.
[re=431935]gurukalehuru[/re]:
I agree with you. Had I actually said that, I would agree with you more.
1. Never claimed inside knowledge.
2. Having witnessed the event personally [ http://www.flickr.com/photos/39832218@N06/4004914820 ] and lost people in the towers, I can tell you that all NYers who lost people in the towers are especially sensitive to jokes, self-serving blather, and idiotic fact-less theories about the atrocity.
[re=431474]Mahousu[/re]: When Mr. Nobel’s brother died, they ran Alfred’s obit and all it said was he’d invented dynamite that killed a lot of people. Mr. Nobel didn’t want to be remembered like that, so he started the Peace Prize so he’d have a better reputation.
[re=431935]gurukalehuru[/re]: Not to be picky, but Don’t Mess With Texas is nothing more than an anti-litter public service campaign.
[re=431929]imissopus[/re]: See, this is why something like Neilist is essential – most of us just hork up hairballs after his farts, but occasionally they inspire someone to perfume the room with sweet, sweet beauty such as your little mind movie about his rainy day fun. Downside: face locked in grin rictus for awhile.
[re=432006]GeneralLerong[/re]: Agreed, but in my version the cat’s name is ‘Mr. Snuzzums’ and the tea is darjeeling. Don’t mess with Raspberry Zinger, yo.
Bill Kristol: Human dildo? or buttplug?
Don’t fret Mr. Kristol, when they announce the Nobel prize for Asshattery you’re a shoo-in!
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