• February 15, 2012

Lockheed Martin, too!Whether you like all of the compromises or not, the White House’s strategy throughout this health care reform effort has been to bring all well-funded players on board and try to work with them, to avoid any of them launching overt, “Harry & Louise”-esque public campaigns against any reform whatsoever. The head negotiator for the health insurance industry’s collective lobbying arm (AHIP) has been this sneaky lady named Karen Ignagni, who had mostly kept her word to avoid a full-scale attack on reform efforts — until this weekend, when her organization released a 26-page report saying current compromises would dramatically raise everyone’s premiums and be terrible. Maybe a public option would help that? WHATEVER, SOCIALIST.

It is not a coincidence that Ignagni released this a few days before the Senate Finance Committee finally planned to get its damn bill out. The Washington Post was more than happy to help! (HERE IS A GOOD REBUTTAL THING.)

But this could be a good sign! If the insurers are finally starting to sweat, maybe it’s because Congress is actually planning on passing something decent. Or maybe nothing will pass at all! Everything is terrifying. Good show, all.

New Bill Would Raise Rates, Says Insurance Group [WP]
Is the Insurance Industry Declaring War? [TNR]
Karen Ignagni’s late hit [Michael Tomasky]

{ 39 comments }

Suds McKenzie October 12, 2009 at 4:40 pm

Nothing will frighten Americans more that a 26 page insurance policy report.

Bastards!

Crank Tango October 12, 2009 at 4:41 pm

so this means all this bullshit will be over soon, right? And we will get nothing and like it?

Sauve qui peut ! A la France pour l’assurance maladie !

SayItWithWookies October 12, 2009 at 4:42 pm

Anthony Weiner’s got your number, Ms. Ignagni.
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002242/

But yeah — saying Baucus’ bill doesn’t do enough to keep costs down was probably a shot in the foot.

gurukalehuru October 12, 2009 at 4:46 pm

Actually, I see this as encouraging. I would much rather see the insurance companies on the other side, where they belong.

DoktorZoom October 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm

I’ve been reading TR Reid’s The Healing of America, and I keep asking myself, WHY ISN’T EVERYBODY READING THIS BOOK? Jeezuss. If I had any hope at all that the morons would even look at it, I’d send copies to both of my state’s senators. That state, unfortunately, is Idaho.

Bruno October 12, 2009 at 4:53 pm

I wouldn’t be sad if the Heath Insurance employers all went out of business and were forced onto the dole. They could have the choice of being homeless or working at the post office which is about the level of their skills.

OzoneTom October 12, 2009 at 4:55 pm

Yeah, raise those rates. We’ll finally be able to get support for single-payer!

scubaix October 12, 2009 at 4:55 pm

Wow she doesn’t even sound like a heartless bitch hijacking a Nordstrom truck at all. Ignagni, right? yeah weird. Nice shoes.

ManchuCandidate October 12, 2009 at 4:57 pm

Considering that their proxies (Teabaggers, Rush, Glen Bekc, Militia Nuts, KKK, Various Op-Ed Whores, Libertarian Tards, George Will, various Blue Balled Blue Dog Demoncraps) turned their argument into a frothing wave of nuttiness, the Insurance Companies have little recourse but to jump in.

Of course, all the stories coming out about denying coverage do little to help them.

Extemporanus October 12, 2009 at 5:01 pm

The health insurance industry needs AHIP replacement after kicking consumer ass non-stop for the last 50 years.

scubaix October 12, 2009 at 5:01 pm

[re=432519]ManchuCandidate[/re]: i doubt that was the point. i mean it made so much sense at the time.

Minnie Mean October 12, 2009 at 5:05 pm

AHIP?! Angry Health Insurance Pricks? Antagonizing Hicks Ignorant of Politics?
Oh, right – it must be a reference to the Sugarhill Gang.

Oldskool October 12, 2009 at 5:07 pm

Is she holding a gun to our head or her head?

ifthethunderdontgetya" October 12, 2009 at 5:08 pm

[re=432513]Bruno[/re]: It’s time we rescission their asses!
/Austrian Death Machine
~

Barrett808 October 12, 2009 at 5:11 pm

Hard to be more OT than this, but:

Hollywood Movie of the Year Award

It’s a battle of the nerds: Star Trek and Harry Potter are neck and neck!

AbstinenceOnly Ed October 12, 2009 at 5:18 pm

Karen O Ignagni = N. Korea Gaining!

DUNH DUNH DUNH!!!!!!!!

Proof enough for me, off to Bagram with her!

proudgrampa October 12, 2009 at 5:26 pm

[re=432559]AbstinenceOnly Ed[/re]: Wow. That is awesome. And scary. Also.

Sweet Baby Cheeses October 12, 2009 at 5:28 pm

[re=432537]Oldskool[/re]: She’s holding the gun to her own head, a la Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles.

meyotch October 12, 2009 at 5:40 pm

[re=432511]DoktorZoom[/re]: Po-tay-To!!!

ScaredShitless October 12, 2009 at 5:43 pm

AHIP: America’s Health Insurance Parasites

Does nobody else see this as a petulant threat on the part of the insurance companies? Only instead of just openly threatening to raise your premiums if there is any reform, they “commission a study” that finds… health insurance companies will raise your premiums if there is reform. Oh, that makes it ok and non-threatening. If it’s a study, they are merely performing a public service and not actually committing extortion on a massive scale.

AbstinenceOnly Ed October 12, 2009 at 5:44 pm

[re=432577]Sweet Baby Cheeses[/re]: She’s holding the gun to her own head as she’s giving me head, which is terrifying, and kinda hot. Nohomo.

Naked Bunny with a Whip October 12, 2009 at 5:47 pm

Dick Cheney is going to run the death panels?! Well, he is used to that sort of thing….

Servo October 12, 2009 at 5:59 pm

So, the health insurance industry’s plan of action is to raise the rates, thereby pushing more people into their only option – Medicare/Medicaid. What’s the difference between embracing the public option now or forcing it later? Oh, yeah. The American business model never exists in the reality of long term because there’s money to be had right now. As long as the gravy train keeps rolling…

oldguy October 12, 2009 at 6:05 pm

OT. Our (lone) congressman held a health care discussion the other day. Someone complained about the speed of the deliberations – “our so-called representatives voting on a bill before we can read it.” Uh-huh.

Read the 26-page report or we shoot the puppy.

user-of-owls October 12, 2009 at 6:10 pm

[re=432527]Extemporanus[/re]: To be fair, the bulk of the sacro-ilial damage occurred after AHIP joined forces with the lobbying group, American Health Option Plans. Let this be a lesson to all you aspiring break dancers/multibillion dollar corporate trollops out there.

SuperStarr October 12, 2009 at 6:17 pm

Too clever, they name their collective lying arm after my home province’s beloved OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) under which, BTW, my own mother has had speedy surgeries for (early detected) lung cancer AND breast cancer and is still whooping it up today eight and five years later.

Lionel Hutz Esq. October 12, 2009 at 6:31 pm

Dear God, now I think that the Senate plan might actually do some good. I’m so confused.

Extemporanus October 12, 2009 at 6:31 pm

[re=432634]user-of-owls[/re]: Fair point on the timeline, and well taken.

I guess it’s the unabashed gusto of their most recent kicking and screaming that has exacerbated AHIP problems, and ours.

Also, I hope that your warning to aspiring break dancing corporations is well-heeded. Just look at what happened to Enron after its logo started trying to do a backspin.

bhosp October 12, 2009 at 6:38 pm

An industry cabal threatening to raise their prices if a bill they don’t like passes? Surely this is a coincidence that the only other industry that does this sort of thing (on a local scale) is pro sports, the only other industry that’s specifically exempted from antitrust laws.

When are we finally going to get the socialism I voted for? I don’t need a lot of it; I’m talking Teddy Roosevelt, not Eugene Debs here.

bhosp October 12, 2009 at 6:45 pm

[re=432653]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: Yeah I know. That TNR rebuttal article about it is just even more confusing. It says the insurance industry didn’t get any sweetheart deal from the White House like Big Hospital and Big Drug got. But I thought the Baucus bill *was* their sweetheart deal.

Edywin October 12, 2009 at 6:47 pm

Forget health care, what about the damn digital television BS? Where did my Matlock go? My Motorola gets nothing but Rachel Maddow without horizontal hold!

user-of-owls October 12, 2009 at 7:06 pm

[re=432655]Extemporanus[/re]: AHIP, AHOP, somebody gonna git hurt. Or appointed RNC Chair.

user-of-owls October 12, 2009 at 7:07 pm

[re=432671]Edywin[/re]: Tune to UHF already! Oh, look…Lost in Space!

Extemporanus October 12, 2009 at 7:16 pm

[re=432687]user-of-owls[/re]: It’s the Capitolhill Gang, featuring Wonder Mike on the wheels of Steele!

“I said AHIP hop the hippie the hippie to AHIP hip hop a you dont stop the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie to the rhythm of the boogie the beat!”

user-of-owls October 12, 2009 at 7:44 pm

[re=432697]Extemporanus[/re]: Grandmaster Cash, baby!

“Don’t push me ‘cuz I’m close to the Ledge
I’m trying not to lose my bread
Uh huh ha ha ha”

assistant/atlas October 12, 2009 at 7:56 pm

I hope lying liar Karen Ignagni gets cancer of the puppy and then is dropped by her insurance company. And then her kidneys fail. In conclusion, choke on your own black heart, Karen.

Darkness October 12, 2009 at 10:24 pm

launching overt, “Harry & Louise”-esque public campaigns

Wait, Pelosi’s first name is Louise? Oh, this so explains everything.

bago October 12, 2009 at 10:51 pm

[re=432634]user-of-owls[/re]: AHIP-AHOP is dangerous stuff glorifying death?

Athar October 13, 2009 at 7:30 am

What this means, those you out there with reasonably good health insurance, is that your premiums are going to increase quite a bit faster that previously expected. This will be due, of course, to the Health Insurance Industry’s need to recover all the money they spent to have this fraud of a cost assessment report produced by their fraud of an industry think tank.

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