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From the Party That Brought You 'Legitimate Rape,' It's CONSENSUAL Rape!

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Barry Hovis, cretin

Today, the Missouri House is discussing a bill meant to outlaw abortion after eight weeks, without exceptions for rape and incest. Because they're gross. During this hearing, state Rep. Barry Hovis got up and started talking about his experiences with rape victims as a police officer, and the ways in which this qualified him to be sure that eight weeks is more than enough time for a victim to get an abortion if they so choose.

In the course of this diatribe, Hovis used the term "consensual rape" to refer to ... we don't know what, actually.

Transcript via Heavy:


"Most of my rapes were not the gentlemen jumping out of the bushes that nobody had ever met. That was one or two times out of one hundred. Most of them were date rapes or consensual rapes, which were all terrible, but I sat in court — sat in court — when juries would struggle with those types of situations where it was a 'he-said she-said,' and they would find the person not guilty. Unfortunate, if it really happened, but I had no control over that, because it was a judge or a jury making those decisions. But we'll just say someone is sexually assaulted. They have eight weeks to make a decision."

Following this, Rep. Raychel Proudie, our new hero, got up and told his ass that there is no such thing as "consensual rape."


Now, Hovis is saying he misspoke, saying that he meant to say "consensual or rape," which does not make any sense either. Does he think it is possible for date rape to be consensual? We cannot be sure. It feels very safe to assume that he's not talking about some kind of pre-arranged BDSM scene or something like that.

What we can be sure of, however, is that in the next few days there will be an op-ed in The Federalist or wherever about how "consensual rape" is so a thing. We don't know what it will be, but they'll come up with something.

What we can also be sure of is that whatever he was trying to say, it wasn't anything good.

Hovis, a former law enforcement officer, was, I suppose, trying to explain that he is aware of the fact that sometimes, people are raped. And that, sometimes, those people get pregnant from being raped. But, he assured the rest of the legislature, eight weeks from being raped is more than enough time to either get the morning after pill or to have an abortion.

Which it is not. A rape victim might not be in the right state of mind to get it together to get the morning after pill. And then, if they do not get the morning after pill, they can only get an abortion if they are pregnant, and also aware of the fact that they are pregnant. Which they won't be until they miss a period. This is complicated by the fact that not all of us have perfectly regular periods that occur every 28 days on the dot, which Hovis might know had he ever had a conversation with a woman in which she was also talking. Menstrual cycles are weird. I once somehow skipped an entire period because I was extremely stressed out. I happen to know women who only get their period a few times a year, as a result of some health problems.

Back when I was working at The Frisky, our number one article every single day, pretty much the entire time I worked there, was an article from well before my time titled "Don't Panic! 7 Reasons Your Period Might Be Late (Besides Pregnancy)." And any time of the day, there would be at least 600 people reading that damn article.

Now, Barry Hovis may not be super interested in talking to anyone about their periods, because he is clearly a macho, macho man, but it might behoove him to know that you can't actually take a pregnancy test until a week after your missed period. Which, if you have been raped, might be late because of stress alone.

Then there is the fact that the victim of rape might not be old enough to drive to the store and get the morning after pill. Or a pregnancy test. They might be so young that their periods haven't become regular yet. Hell, if they've had abstinence-only education, they might not know the morning after pill even exists.

There are a whole lot of things that can happen. There are many, many factors here that determine when someone has an abortion. Maybe they need some time to be sure it is the right choice for them. Maybe they need to raise the money. Who knows? It's none of your damn business if you are not them.

I would love to know: How is it that these men, who are so very, very invested in regulating reproductive rights, are so damn stupid when it comes to the reproductive system? I mean, my god! Would it kill them to read a Wikipedia article? I'm just saying. If I were extremely dedicated to making laws regulating dicks, I don't think I'd rely entirely on my own imagination to explain how they work. Then again, maybe I would if I were a Republican. It does seem to be their M.O. for most things.

[Washington Post]

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Once upon a time... about ten years ago, a group of entirely ridiculous men burst onto the scene wearing stupid hats and telling men that wearing stupid hats and telling men that walking up to women in bars and insulting ("negging") them would get them laid. This did not last long, as women also had televisions and computers and were completely aware of these tricks as well, so when some ass came up to us in a bar and said "Hey, nice nails, are they real?" we would laugh and laugh and loudly announce "Oh my god, this guy just tried to neg me! Can you believe that shit? HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY JUST TRIED TO NEG ME!" and then refer to him as "Mystery" the whole night.

Most of the men who tried that shit only did so a few times before realizing that it wasn't going to work, and thus moved on to other things. Perhaps things that did not involve furry hats and coming off as a huge creep. We may never know, because I would assume that those who tried it are now extremely embarrassed and would never, ever admit to this to us.

Still, there were a few men willing to eat that shit up, as well as some grifters willing to take advantage of that. Said grifters tended to be extremely misogynistic and seemed more like they were teaching men how to be as despised by women as they were than teaching them how to actually be liked by women.

Some of them, like Roosh V, a creepy weirdo who actually does live in his mom's basement, actively encouraged men to rape women who were intoxicated to the point of being obviously unable to consent.

However, even that branch of the PUA tree is wilting away. Many "self-help" style PUA forums like Nextasf and RSDnation are shutting down or have already shut down. In March, Chateau Heartiste, a batshit crazy PUA turned White Nationalist/Alt-Right blog was shut down by Wordpress. This week, rape advocate Roosh V (whom you may recall once called yours truly a "Wonkette typist/clown face, would not bang") announced that he was renouncing his PUA ways and devoting himself to Jesus. He explained to the forum he manages that he would no longer be allowing anyone to discuss premarital "fornication."

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'Baby Geniuses' star Jon Voight took to Twitter early this morning to proclaim his undying love for Donald Trump, probably because there is no one left in his life who will listen to him talk about this, or anything else, in person. In this video rant, Voight encouraged members of the Republican Party, whom he apparently thinks are the only real citizens of the United States, to stand by Donald Trump and "acknowledge the truth" that he is the best President since Abraham Lincoln.


Part ONE:

People of the Republican Party, I know you will agree with me when I say our president has our utmost respect and our love. This job is not easy. For he's battling the left and their absurd words of destruction. I've said this once and I'll say this again. That our nation has been built on the solid ground from our forefathers, and there is a moral code of duty that has been passed on from President Lincoln. I'm here today to acknowledge the truth, and I'm here today to tell you my fellow Americans that our country…

Oh no, not our absurd words of destruction!

Part DEUX:

is stronger, safer, and with more jobs because our President has made his every move correct. Don't be fooled by the political left, because we are the people of this nation that is witnessing triumph. So let us stand with our president. Let us stand up for this truth, that President Trump is the greatest president since President Lincoln.

Does Jon Voight not know there have been... other presidents? Can he name them? Because really, it does not sound like it. Does he also not know that a very big chunk of the Republican Party actually does not care very much for Abraham Lincoln? Namely those defenders of Confederate statues that Trump called "very fine people?" Also, did he intentionally diss their beloved Ronald Reagan?

Who can know? Who can even tell what he is trying to say or why he is trying to say it. He doesn't appear to have tweeted much since 2016, so I'm guessing whoever's job it was to keep him from tanking his career quit. Either that... or after filming the seventh season of Ray Donovan, he found out it's going to be canceled or his character is getting killed off or something and he is now free to be a jackass? I don't know, I haven't watched the show, although my parents are very into it and mad that I haven't watched it. Literally all I know about it is that it has something to do with Boston, because they keep mentioning that to me like it's a selling point.

It seems useless at this point to note that the people who scream their faces off about how bad it is for Hollywood celebs to support liberal causes, and how they should keep their politics to themselves, etc. etc. make a way bigger deal than normal people do whenever a Big Time Hollywood Celebrity like Jon Voight or, uh, Scott Baio, supports their cause. Mostly because they're the only ones who have elected a reality TV star and the star of Bedtime for Bonzo (who by the way, also once practically ruined a perfectly good Bette Davis movie with his bad acting. Which is not to say that Dark Victory is not fantastic and probably the best thing to watch if you want to sob your face off, but he was very bad in it.) to run the country.

But we might as well do that anyway, because it actually never stops being funny.

[Jon Voight Twitter]

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