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LOU LOU's avatar

Oh the irony that Kurtz and his fellow colonizer clan could not see that they themselves were brutes.

Wookiee Monster's avatar

“Many had filed applications for asylum, had married U.S. citizens or had been granted humanitarian parole and were detained when they voluntarily showed up for appointments at ICE offices.”

And this fills me with white hot rage because every MAGAt will claim that they’re for immigration so long as it’s done “the right way.” But we know that’s a lie because they keep insisting that asylum seekers are “illegals” and anyone detained by ICE is by definition “illegal” because ICE never makes mistakes or just flat out lies.

Never mind that the family of Liam Ramos were here under a valid asylum claim. Also, never mind that the entire narrative ICE concocted about his father running away and abandoning him (but later also insisting that Liam be taken to the hell prison with him) is contradicted by eye witnesses.

Fuck these people.

Rooster Cogburn's avatar

I worked in a Immigration detention center for 10 years. It wasn't the 4 Seasons, but we carried no weapons only the detainees had those. Everyone had access to toilets, showers, beds and an hour of yard. I can honestly say that I never saw any staff excessive force unless it was breaking up fights. 3 meals a day, and if they got back from outside consulate trips they got a sack lunch. Every female movement was by two males or one female, supervisor must sign for it and they must be in a camera room at all times.

I felt safer in the yard than in an Admin. meeting. The majority were criminals, but they still needed stuff.

TheGreatAndPowerfulMormos!'s avatar

A reminder that anne frank didnt die in the gas chambers.

We, the people, are going to have to liberate these camps.

Bear: PROTECT THE AMERICUB's avatar

In 70s Germany, the CEO of CoreCivic would have been pulled out of his limo, shoved into a Volkswagen Kombi and trundled off to an undisclosed location.

goCatgo's avatar

Grandson asked why he didn't name it the 'Hitler Mobile'?

Brian McCurdy's avatar

There's a lot we could say about all this but it all comes down to evil people doing evil things to the most vulnerable.

gene108's avatar

I wonder how many white people are rethinking their reflexive racism that got us here?

There’s noise about MAGA’s being disillusioned, but they need to repent for the harm they cause.

I’m not sure they can look past how Trump trying to keep the Epstein files as inscrutable as possible destroyed the conspiracy theory their support for Trump rested on, and caused them to loose faith in Trump. I somehow doubt many will accept the harm they cause.

Wookiee Monster's avatar

I’d like to ask anyone who voted for Pedo but now says he’s going too far, “what did you think mass deportations meant?” This is exactly what we said would happen.

Also l’m not letting the Latino and black voters who voted him because they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a woman off the hook either. Fuck them, too.

JR's avatar

Just got a caller ID named 'GOP Polling'. Wonder what they wanted? Never seen that before.

Dilley, TX. A tiny town of ~3,200 on I-35 in south TX where ~36% of the population lives below the poverty line. This prison camp is likely one of the main employers there, run by CoreCivic and "Target Hospitality". Another being the Dolph Briscoe Unit, one of Abbott's state prison camps. The town's management is probably grateful for these government-funded economic engines. Although they don't seem to do much to raise the living standard in the town. How these kids could remotely be the "worst of the worst" is beyond comprehension. Google Maps shows it as "South TX Family Residential Center", sounds pleasant.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6588443,-99.1986318,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e5!3m6!1sCIABIhDLO0vHX1bCd3qZnzLuLps4!2e10!3e10!6shttps:%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2Fgps-cs-s%2FAHVAweoQztAudfGHNz6PTe4iL25-uOE42YZiOV626Hox6SiN-myu4XIHjOyUY7Q3Ps8JbQznZe7ZH_Ekw0lHRUSPDZRKi718CZ7PYDH9am0Bn98kJ9U6p0xIU_An2wPTuayIDLrhxkLKrD2ndN0s%3Dw86-h152-k-no!7i576!8i1024?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDIwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Dorothea is a Democrat's avatar

It's a concentration camp.

Bitter Scribe's avatar

OK, that tears it.

I just filled out a form at the website of the Hispanic advocacy group in my town (which is about half Hispanic), offering to volunteer as anything, any time, any day of the week.

I can't just read about this shit all day long while smoking dope to tamp down my anger. Gotta do 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨.

I just wish I spoke Spanish.

Rooster Cogburn's avatar

Go to a Cantina and watch Novelas with English subtitles.

Rooster Cogburn's avatar

Remember the $1B Aegeis Naval radar system that couldn't tell a climbing 737 from a diving F-4 Phantom, leading to the cruiser Vincennes shooting down the 737?

Erin's avatar
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99 Luftballons auf ihren Weg zum Horizont...

Satanic Pancake's avatar

THOSE SNEAKY BASTARDS! CAMOUFLAGING THEIR DRONES AS PARTY BALLOONS!

Queen Méabh's avatar

I just watched a YouTube video about how people who escape from North Korea into South Korea often have a hard time adjusting to their new environment. The video did say that all North Koreans are officially considered to be South Korean citizens even before they arrive in South Korea, which was nice to hear, as it means they automatically qualify for certain benefits as soon as they arrive.

Bitter Scribe's avatar

If you would like to read a book with an absolutely fascinating, in-depth perspective on all those issues, I can't recommend highly enough Barbara Demick's "Nothing to Envy" (2009). It's based on extensive interviews with North Korean refugees.

gene108's avatar

I also recommend reading it.

WeepingAngel~Radical Left Scum's avatar

I can't type out the thoughts I had while reading this. I can express the sorrow and heartbreak I feel reading this as a mother and just a human being. Anything I have to say about those doing and perpetuating is best left redacted because there aren't enough votes to avoid the banhammer. I'm tired of feeling this burning rage sitting in my chest.

Queen Méabh's avatar

I hate to say this, but conditions in ICE prisons are only a hair worse than conditions in Missouri prisons. Our prison inmates are denied medical care at the whim of the corrections officers and medical staff. The food is garbage and often moldy, and does not meet adult daily calorie requirements. Inmates can only make phone calls to outsiders who actually answer the phone in person, which means they can't call most circuit courts, and sometimes can't even call their attorneys unless they actually answer the phone in person.

All phone calls are recorded, and all emails are scanned and frequently blocked for non-applicable reasons. Snail mail letters are scanned and lost about 50% of the time. No packages of any kind can be sent to inmates, including books ordered from 3rd party online websites. Guards who only have high school diplomas and no medical training of any kind can decide, based solely on "visual inspection", that an inmate who is having a serious medical crisis, such as an epileptic seizure, is actually high on illegal drugs, and they are then sent to solitary detention wards.

I've mentioned my friend Debbie here before. She self-reported pain while defecating and blood in her stools every single day for 4 months and was denied a medical appointment every single time and accused of faking her symptoms to get drugs. After 4 months a tumor appeared, and they finally sent her to a doctor. Stage 4 rectal cancer. She is now dying.

But at least there are no children in Missouri Prisons, and so far the water is not making anyone sick. At least, not yet. But if Missouri continues to certify 14-yr-olds as adults, then that will change.

gene108's avatar

The conditions in U.S. prisons should be a national embarrassment. Terrible conditions have been going on for decades and decades.

Unfortunately we still have too many people of the “lock them up and throw away the key” mindset in this country, including the entirety of the Republican party.

Bitter Scribe's avatar

I thought, as I read the ProPublica pieces, that a lot of the details reminded me of what you've written before about your prison experiences, both inside and trying to help from the outside.

And now, as I read what you just posted, I'm reminded of what I've read about Soviet gulags.

Cruelty is universal, in prisons the world over.

God damn Trump and Miller and all the rest of those fucksticks for what they've done to innocent children.

And bless you for your continued advocacy.

What A Debacle's avatar

Just occurred to me: If little Liam (for example) and father are deported to dad's original country that is bad enough.

But, Liam is not a citizen. Are these countries offering all the little Liams residency? If not, they are stateless.

Bitter Scribe's avatar

Relax. Other countries aren't that cruel. Just ours.

Noma Larkey's avatar

Gee, it's almost like the 'questions' she's being fed by the R's were scripted and rehearsed in advance.

gallbladder's avatar

As are her answers.

Joe Bacon's avatar

Cohen to Bondi: "You tried to investigate Ms. Good's widow and you tried to investigate Mr. Pretti. They were executed like Kristi Noem executed her dog."

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