Interesting that Janny is a member of the 0.1% of the prison population which is atheist, and they want to convert him to join the 70% which is Christian.
Had an understanding with?Wonder how much he was getting in kick backs.Christian pregnancy centers. Christian run prisons (no, really). Christian day cares. Christian halfway houses.And all the while. we're forcing our most vulnerable into these, usually because someone is getting a kickback on that sweet taxpayer money.Generally, they treat their inmates like shit, so they can hoard said tax payer money also
“Looks like The Church of The Satanic Panic has a bed ready for you mister! Now good luck and be sure to show up wearing the upside down pentagram necklace I gave you so they don’t mistake you for a Xtian and sacrifice you to Ba’al!”
I'm actually with you on this. I lost someone close to me who was so scarred by childhood exposure to toxic religion that they could never begin to consider a recovery program. As a pagan with atheist leanings (or is that the other way around) I know there are folks it works for - and those that it doesn't. I definitely agree that other models are needed.
Imagining how this Gomez asshole and those of his ilk would react if parolees were forced to attend Muslim religious services rather than Christian ones. I suspect they would have a much bigger problem with forcing people to practice a particular religion as a condition of parole.
It's far easier to convert someone of another faith (because 90% of the groundwork is already there) than someone of no faith, just as it was far easier to make a fascist out of a communist and vice versa than it was for either to convince a liberal.
Hell, it was polled way back in 2008, "would you vote for a female president, a black president, a president of a differing political party, a differing religion, etc" and the LEAST popular option was an atheist president. He "couldn't be trusted."
An ~80% Christian nation would rather vote for a Muslim than an Atheist.
(Also your original comment is hypocritical AF, bee tee dubs.)
This. A *HUGE* assumption of prayer is not that a Higher Power exists and can assist but rather that said Power would even give a damn. The massive conceit of most religions is that insignificant humanity can beg their cosmic betters for goodies at will and fully expect the tab to be paid in full.
It's entirely possible a Higher Being exists but doesn't care about us any more than the specks of dust floating on the solar wind. Just because They can doesn't mean They will....
The fact that Gamez thought he could get away with this in the first place is a sign that we need a major reset on the principle of separation of church and state. Which will not happen as long as we have 6 religious freaks on the Supreme Court. They have been drifting towards the primary rights being guns and forced religion, including approving a neat money laundering trick that allows state tax money to go religious primary and secondary schools. That being that the state give the money to parents and the parents give it yo the church for tuition. Somehow they concluded that this washed the taint of taxes from those payments. Of course, try that on.any other made net laundering and you will end up in prison.
They have just gotten worse and worse, including ruling that the right to practice your suicidal religion overrode the right of everyone else to breathe. While of course they stayed cloistered in their court, curtailing access to visitors to the building and conducting hearings by phone conference. No problem standing in a line for hours to vote, but an attorney standing 15 feet from the bench is too dangerous. And allowing a full capacity sermon when hundreds are dying from Covid every day is just fine. God will protect them, not the court. That's not their job.
forcing religion on people against their will is psychological abuse. I fail to see the difference between this and pray away the gay conversion therapy.
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Interesting that Janny is a member of the 0.1% of the prison population which is atheist, and they want to convert him to join the 70% which is Christian.
Had an understanding with?Wonder how much he was getting in kick backs.Christian pregnancy centers. Christian run prisons (no, really). Christian day cares. Christian halfway houses.And all the while. we're forcing our most vulnerable into these, usually because someone is getting a kickback on that sweet taxpayer money.Generally, they treat their inmates like shit, so they can hoard said tax payer money also
“Looks like The Church of The Satanic Panic has a bed ready for you mister! Now good luck and be sure to show up wearing the upside down pentagram necklace I gave you so they don’t mistake you for a Xtian and sacrifice you to Ba’al!”
Well what do you think the “H” stands for in Jeebus H Christo?
I'm actually with you on this. I lost someone close to me who was so scarred by childhood exposure to toxic religion that they could never begin to consider a recovery program. As a pagan with atheist leanings (or is that the other way around) I know there are folks it works for - and those that it doesn't. I definitely agree that other models are needed.
Imagining how this Gomez asshole and those of his ilk would react if parolees were forced to attend Muslim religious services rather than Christian ones. I suspect they would have a much bigger problem with forcing people to practice a particular religion as a condition of parole.
Pretty long history of it tho.https://christianhistoryins...
I think the saying: 'Religion makes good people better and bad people worse' is pretty accurate.
You're not getting it.
It's far easier to convert someone of another faith (because 90% of the groundwork is already there) than someone of no faith, just as it was far easier to make a fascist out of a communist and vice versa than it was for either to convince a liberal.
Hell, it was polled way back in 2008, "would you vote for a female president, a black president, a president of a differing political party, a differing religion, etc" and the LEAST popular option was an atheist president. He "couldn't be trusted."
An ~80% Christian nation would rather vote for a Muslim than an Atheist.
(Also your original comment is hypocritical AF, bee tee dubs.)
I need to know more about the sex cult part
This. A *HUGE* assumption of prayer is not that a Higher Power exists and can assist but rather that said Power would even give a damn. The massive conceit of most religions is that insignificant humanity can beg their cosmic betters for goodies at will and fully expect the tab to be paid in full.
It's entirely possible a Higher Being exists but doesn't care about us any more than the specks of dust floating on the solar wind. Just because They can doesn't mean They will....
The fact that Gamez thought he could get away with this in the first place is a sign that we need a major reset on the principle of separation of church and state. Which will not happen as long as we have 6 religious freaks on the Supreme Court. They have been drifting towards the primary rights being guns and forced religion, including approving a neat money laundering trick that allows state tax money to go religious primary and secondary schools. That being that the state give the money to parents and the parents give it yo the church for tuition. Somehow they concluded that this washed the taint of taxes from those payments. Of course, try that on.any other made net laundering and you will end up in prison.
They have just gotten worse and worse, including ruling that the right to practice your suicidal religion overrode the right of everyone else to breathe. While of course they stayed cloistered in their court, curtailing access to visitors to the building and conducting hearings by phone conference. No problem standing in a line for hours to vote, but an attorney standing 15 feet from the bench is too dangerous. And allowing a full capacity sermon when hundreds are dying from Covid every day is just fine. God will protect them, not the court. That's not their job.
forcing religion on people against their will is psychological abuse. I fail to see the difference between this and pray away the gay conversion therapy.