If the people who voted for Trump end up suffering AND actually realize that that piece of shit bait-and-switched them and is the cause of their pain, I will savor it. And I will wish more suffering upon them. I want revenge and I want justice. That’s just where I’m at right now.
If you vote to be punched in the dick and then get punched in the dick, you deserve that dick punch.
Rebecca, thank you for posting this. I've been dealing with this trauma while staying with MAGA relatives who are taking delight in my misery. The community around me is full of spiteful bullies who've been animated by the election. We're going to need to be kind to each other and reassure the community of kind-hearts that we're not alone. GodDAMN, this hurts.😫
We must all grieve and then confront these people. One caveat, When the people who voted and their dreams are not fulfilled, I want to remind them they sold us out for a cheaper loaf of bread,
It is difficult to be polite when we know 40% of the people out there are either assholes or dumb-shits, or both. I have a hard time pretending it's all okay.
Dear Rebecca, et al. Reading through the comments on this post has been very good for my brain. I’m glad so many of us are finding community here at this moment. I’ve been lurking around the ol’ mommyblog since 2008 Obama/McCain-era, I support at Patreon.
My ex’s grandparents escaped the holocaust from Germany and Austria. When they got to America they refused to ever buy a home, “Because the government could take it away in an instant.” That’s the fear lurking in the back of my mind: it would be so easy for the Orange Maggot to strip us of our bank accounts and homes, if he felt compelled to punish us for any infraction.
I’m fortunate to live in Portland OR where my zip code went 92% for Biden. I’m fortunate to be in the LGBTQ community that NBC says went 86% for Harris. I feel safe for now in my blue bubble, I know most of my neighbors are not my Enemy. I’m resigned to sucking it up to live through another 4-25 years of Trump’s reign. I fear the ways Trump / Elmo / RFK Jr will fuck with those of us in the blue bubbles. They are no doubt scheming ways to take away our health care, abortions, and mortgage interest tax deduction. Portland had Trump’s secret police downtown stirring up trouble during the George Floyd protests, seeing how far they could apply the Insurrection Act without anyone noticing or caring. I dread what T will do to get back at the West Coast, the NorthEast, Illinois.
I’m not even that mad at Trump’s supporters. He received less votes this time than in 2020; we knew he had brainwashed cultists who wanted to cause us pain. The ones I cannot forgive are the D who stayed home. I hear what they are saying: Kamala was a centrist candidate, and they wanted a progressive that offered policies they could believe in. Yes, I’d have loved it if Bernie was the winner in 2016. Or we had a 2024 candidate who said, "Fuck the rich! Their taxes are going back to 35%, and you all get free health care and abortions!!!" But Christ, man! Consider the people who need the protection of a centrist Democrat. Us Queers, Trans folk, latinos, immigrants, poor people, the houseless, those in need of mental health treatment, and women.
Democratic women who stayed home? WTF?
It will be hard to forgive our friends, and their apathy. Especially when we’re knee deep in bullshit mid'25.
Here’s a final thought: Donald Trump will be President during the USA's 250th anniversary. He'll probably put his face on Mt Rushmore. This country is over when you have an authoritarian ruler on the Semiquincentennial. I vote for Cascadian Secession. Let's do it, West Coast!!!
Wait! What? I didn't know he got less than in 2020, and that so many Dems stayed home. God-fucking-dammit! What the hell? I can't stand it. I just can't freaking stand it. How Stupid can people be? New saying: "As stupid as an apathetic Democrat".
Once everything is counted he will end up with more votes than he got in 2020, as will Harris, but both will fall short of what Biden got. Turnout will be lower than 2020, but higher than elections before that.
NEWSWEEK Nov 07, 2024 at 2:12 PM EST ---> At the time of writing, with many more votes still to be counted, Harris has just under 68 million votes, more than **13 million** below the 81.2 million votes Biden had in 2020. Trump is currently at 72.6 million, less than 2 million away from the 74.2 million votes received in the 2020 election. Still, even with the remaining votes yet to be counted, Harris is set to fall short of Biden's tally four years ago. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-millions-voters-kamala-harris-trump-election-1981954
I am just now reading about the GOP Project 2025. OMG it is much worse than I had imagined. Maybe the DEM party should have spent more time exposing it?
TFG's ratings tanked so he was "I don't know what that is" Despite people saying its all his past administration people. Vance wrote the forward one of the author's new book.
Dems mentioned it when they could. The gop were no tfg said its nothing to do with him. gop and MSM crucified dems for saying it was anything to do with tfg.
cant give you WSJ or NYT as I do not have access. But as you can see this is just a small amount and then there was more on wonkette and even more on you tube.
The messaging was not lax. ACLU and the dems were all warning about it. Candidates did. Harris mentioned it at the debate.
tfg constantly denied it.
"“I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump wrote in a July 5 Truth Social post. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”
Project 2025 said it “does not speak for any candidate or campaign” in a July 5 post on X, formerly Twitter. Its playbook is comprised of suggestions the coalition believes will benefit the "next conservative president.""
It was hard to keep up with all this crap with trump. I'm sure that more than you never got a good picture of it.
I first heard about it in here and then on Youtube a lot. Texted about with a couple of my out of state buddies. Spread the news to my family including links to their site and emailed the family their actual published pdf.
Then a guy in the Astronomy club I belong to came up to me and asked if I had heard about 2025.
Where do you get your news from? because obviously that's the area that was missed because it was talked about here on wonkette, on social media and in the MSM.
the MSM is the only source that matters when you're not already one of us. And there was precious little on 2025 going on there.
Soap-box time: We need a media messaging machine to match the right-wing one. With in-your-face programming about this and everything else fucked-up about Republicans, and everything Democrats do that help Americans lead better lives. THAT is where millions if not billions of $$ need to go NOW. In addition to vetting candidates for 2026 and '28 NOW and on TV and social media and on our OWN networks. We need to create our own echo-chamber with truth and facts. We need to fix the GD Dem messaging apparatus, or create one cuz I don't think there is one. This has been a 50 year plan with the 'thugs. We have two years to catch up.
PS. Of course I saw it here, with the rest of the choir. So what? Social media? With its logarithms? So what? We need to do a "Bannon" and flood the zone with reality. Dems need to own the narrative.
Ta, Rebecca. I'm glad I never had kids; you do a great job! More baking sounds good. Our first wedding present (given to us by Eclipse Friend in April) was a vintage red KitchenAid stand mixer. We had to buy a dough hook for it, and it works like a charm. Oh, she also gave us a pizza stone. Darling husband Meccalopolis makes the tomato sauce; I make the dough, oil it, sauce it, (vegan) cheese it, and top it, usually with mushrooms and olive slices, last time grilled artichoke hearts, too. Husband handles the pizza stone.
My sweet husband has “welder’s hands” and pulls out the stone with oven mitts, while I slide the parchment paper containing the pie from the stone onto the butcher block, and cut the basil leaves onto the bubbling pizza. We’re a great team.
Pizza does not require tomato sauce. It can be caramelized onion and red pepper and all kinds of other things. Or make vegan ricotta (soak macadamias overnight, strain and reserve the soak water, add some nutritional yeast, and blend in a food processor or strong blender, adding soak water if needed a tiny bit at a time) for white pizza. Top with spinach, herbs, mushrooms, or what-have-you.
I’m trying to process Tuesday. One thing I’ve watched is people on the left, my friends, my allies, take to schadenfreude at the idea that trump will bring pain to people who voted for him thinking he would bring about the change they want…I get it, it’s fuck around; find out time…but…but, I am also frightened by this shift. I’m frightened by leftists/democrats/liberals, whatever label fits, actually enjoying the suffering that is sure to come. Prior to Tuesday these same people would tout we do this for ALL Americans. Are we giving up on that? Are we stooping to maga levels of epicaricacy? Do we really want to find joy watching a young woman who voted for trump bleed out in a hospital parking lot? Do we want to rejoice watching a trump voter’s pain when ICE comes for their cousin? Are we gonna cheer the child who loses access to cancer treatment because mommy and daddy are MAGA?
We voted the way we did on Tuesday because we want to mitigate harm and suffering that people face. We seek to find ways to fix problems and help people…we want to believe we are the people who will stand up against the bully, but what are we if we adopt the attitude and tactics of the bully?
I spent a lot of time yesterday questioning my very humanity…if we go that way, if we shift toward recriminations of our political opponents, then are we not abandoning our higher ideals?
I know we are all processing this differently and it takes time to recover, but I don’t want to fall under the false pleasure maga enjoys of watching people suffer. I don’t want to be them.
It's not enjoying the suffering. Its an anger response to the people on the right gloating about how upset people are. We know what is coming and they seem to think that its all going to be gravy and awesome for them. That their vote haven't put them into the pot along with everyone else. Remember most still haven't learned that "its not the right people who are being hurt".
There is not really ANYTHING to stop what is coming. They have the house (potentially), senate, presidency and the supreme court. People will try but the maga and MSM are going to place the blame on the Dems.
It's just people looking at who they have the emotion bandwidth to care about now. And unfortunately for the people who voted for their daughters and wives to bleed out and for them and their cousin to be rounded up and all the other daily stories of "I voted for tfg and I didn't think this bad thing will happen". There is very little left but "we told you so".
It's fine if you want to stand there and wring your hands about not becoming the bully. But there are whole load of people who are angry and not where you are, and may never be and that's ok. There are also people who are angry and rolling up their sleeve and doing what they can to help who they can.
Also can I point out worse case in four years there is no election. They have and are talking about suspending the constitution. So no article 22.
We are now in triage mode. Help wherever and whenever we can, no matter who or how they voted. To quote a certain muppet, “fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” If we hold it against those who voted for trump when the hurt comes, and it will come, I hope we can all maintain some sense of compassion, cuz if we don’t I worry we only add to the suffering.
"Ahimsa is the attribute of the soul, and therefore, to be practiced by everybody in all affairs of life. If it cannot be practiced in all departments, it has no practical value."
Ok but you cannot save everyone. You can only help as much as you can and you cannot save anyone from themselves or their choices. We are not doctors saving patients or lawyers who are practising the law.
Also the type of people you are talking about; some would look at a helping hand and spit in your face for who the helpers are.
It's that old story about the man on the rooftop in a flood who turns down help because they're waiting on god and he when he gets to heaven god says I sent you a help three times.
There is no legal mechanism to suspend the constitution, and a rather large number of heavily armed and organized people sworn to defend it against enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Of course, you can fantasize about it being done, but you're in Elon-Musk-Colonizes-Mars territory then.
Well, but... they're making ALL of us suffer. So... I'm okay with them suffering too. I'm not going to take away my SS $, but if they try to, well, the gauntlet is then thrown.
“how happy we will be when bad things happen to everyone who caused this”
I think this right here is the difference between now and 2016. Last time we thought, well maybe they didn’t understand what they were voting for, but a little education and they’ll change their allegiance. So we were told to be civil and kind and jolly them along to see the error of their ways. This time, there is no excuse. The voters made their choice and voted for hate with extra added misogyny. And I’m done with them. I will answer back bluntly. I will be exercising my “block” function ruthlessly. I might even call them names in certain circumstances. And when they cry that employment is falling, but the price of everything has gone up, I’ll tell them that’s exactly what they voted for.
Thanks for this Rebecca. I am so fucking pissed I feel like I must be a crazy person. Driving home from work yesterday, I was furious at everyone around me thinking "which one of you assholes voted for Trump?" It has floated across my mind a couple of times today that I should buy a gun and learn how to use it *to defend my family. And I HATE fucking guns. Judging by all the comments, I am not the only one feeling like an angry rage monster. I've always thought a martial arts class would be interesting. Guess I'll look into that instead.
If the people who voted for Trump end up suffering AND actually realize that that piece of shit bait-and-switched them and is the cause of their pain, I will savor it. And I will wish more suffering upon them. I want revenge and I want justice. That’s just where I’m at right now.
If you vote to be punched in the dick and then get punched in the dick, you deserve that dick punch.
Rebecca, thank you for posting this. I've been dealing with this trauma while staying with MAGA relatives who are taking delight in my misery. The community around me is full of spiteful bullies who've been animated by the election. We're going to need to be kind to each other and reassure the community of kind-hearts that we're not alone. GodDAMN, this hurts.😫
Sent this article to a friend today. I keep coming back to it, especially after running errands today.
We must all grieve and then confront these people. One caveat, When the people who voted and their dreams are not fulfilled, I want to remind them they sold us out for a cheaper loaf of bread,
I'm generally an optimist and the bright side is this: "I’m doing more baking!"
I am every negative emotion all combined and I don’t know how to come out of it.
It is difficult to be polite when we know 40% of the people out there are either assholes or dumb-shits, or both. I have a hard time pretending it's all okay.
Dear Rebecca, et al. Reading through the comments on this post has been very good for my brain. I’m glad so many of us are finding community here at this moment. I’ve been lurking around the ol’ mommyblog since 2008 Obama/McCain-era, I support at Patreon.
My ex’s grandparents escaped the holocaust from Germany and Austria. When they got to America they refused to ever buy a home, “Because the government could take it away in an instant.” That’s the fear lurking in the back of my mind: it would be so easy for the Orange Maggot to strip us of our bank accounts and homes, if he felt compelled to punish us for any infraction.
I’m fortunate to live in Portland OR where my zip code went 92% for Biden. I’m fortunate to be in the LGBTQ community that NBC says went 86% for Harris. I feel safe for now in my blue bubble, I know most of my neighbors are not my Enemy. I’m resigned to sucking it up to live through another 4-25 years of Trump’s reign. I fear the ways Trump / Elmo / RFK Jr will fuck with those of us in the blue bubbles. They are no doubt scheming ways to take away our health care, abortions, and mortgage interest tax deduction. Portland had Trump’s secret police downtown stirring up trouble during the George Floyd protests, seeing how far they could apply the Insurrection Act without anyone noticing or caring. I dread what T will do to get back at the West Coast, the NorthEast, Illinois.
I’m not even that mad at Trump’s supporters. He received less votes this time than in 2020; we knew he had brainwashed cultists who wanted to cause us pain. The ones I cannot forgive are the D who stayed home. I hear what they are saying: Kamala was a centrist candidate, and they wanted a progressive that offered policies they could believe in. Yes, I’d have loved it if Bernie was the winner in 2016. Or we had a 2024 candidate who said, "Fuck the rich! Their taxes are going back to 35%, and you all get free health care and abortions!!!" But Christ, man! Consider the people who need the protection of a centrist Democrat. Us Queers, Trans folk, latinos, immigrants, poor people, the houseless, those in need of mental health treatment, and women.
Democratic women who stayed home? WTF?
It will be hard to forgive our friends, and their apathy. Especially when we’re knee deep in bullshit mid'25.
Here’s a final thought: Donald Trump will be President during the USA's 250th anniversary. He'll probably put his face on Mt Rushmore. This country is over when you have an authoritarian ruler on the Semiquincentennial. I vote for Cascadian Secession. Let's do it, West Coast!!!
Wait! What? I didn't know he got less than in 2020, and that so many Dems stayed home. God-fucking-dammit! What the hell? I can't stand it. I just can't freaking stand it. How Stupid can people be? New saying: "As stupid as an apathetic Democrat".
Once everything is counted he will end up with more votes than he got in 2020, as will Harris, but both will fall short of what Biden got. Turnout will be lower than 2020, but higher than elections before that.
NEWSWEEK Nov 07, 2024 at 2:12 PM EST ---> At the time of writing, with many more votes still to be counted, Harris has just under 68 million votes, more than **13 million** below the 81.2 million votes Biden had in 2020. Trump is currently at 72.6 million, less than 2 million away from the 74.2 million votes received in the 2020 election. Still, even with the remaining votes yet to be counted, Harris is set to fall short of Biden's tally four years ago. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-millions-voters-kamala-harris-trump-election-1981954
Yes, calm, try to process, and do nothing that can't be changed please all!
My biggest fear is for the children. They, in the end, will have suffered the worst.
I am just now reading about the GOP Project 2025. OMG it is much worse than I had imagined. Maybe the DEM party should have spent more time exposing it?
sorry but where have you been?
Um, excuse me, but kitty is correct. Dems did a piss-poor job of getting the message out... like they always do.
They did a HUGE presentation at the Democratic National Convention about it!
And how many non-Dems watched the DNC? This is a MSM issue. As per usual they are weak on reporting Dem accomplishments, and Rep's assholiness.
So they did a one time film and that was it?
Uh No. It came out. The media actually talked about it. It was everywhere.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalScience/comments/1857icc/what_do_you_all_think_of_project_2025_im_feeling/
TFG's ratings tanked so he was "I don't know what that is" Despite people saying its all his past administration people. Vance wrote the forward one of the author's new book.
Dems mentioned it when they could. The gop were no tfg said its nothing to do with him. gop and MSM crucified dems for saying it was anything to do with tfg.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-project-2025-steve-bannon-election-b2642968.html
"Everywhere". Right. I tend to disagree.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=project%202025&hl=en
google trends of the search term. the first spike is after Biden mentions it around the debate.
https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/14/project-2025-election
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c977njnvq2do june
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/01/project-2025-key-proposals
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/24/politics/fact-check-harris-project-2025-trump/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/donations-surged-groups-linked-conservative-project-2025-rcna125638
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/project-2025-heritage-foundation-christian-nationalism-rcna103510
cant give you WSJ or NYT as I do not have access. But as you can see this is just a small amount and then there was more on wonkette and even more on you tube.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/trump-shuts-down-project-2025-for?utm_source=publication-search
https://www.wonkette.com/p/project-2025-all-done-going-home?utm_source=publication-search
https://www.wonkette.com/p/trump-suffers-bout-of-project-2025?utm_source=publication-search
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwqpx6lp_s
Last week tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y16SZhZJHkI&pp=ygUWbGFzdCB3ZWVrIHByb2plY3QgMjAyNQ%3D%3D
wsj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRcktU4-AI&pp=ygUWbGFzdCB3ZWVrIHByb2plY3QgMjAyNQ%3D%3D
msnbc
Is this supposed to be funny? Because we were talking about it constantly for nearly a year.
"We". Correct. But was the message getting out to "them"? Obviously nuh-uh.
But as usual, the messaging was lax. Kinda like a lot of Dem voters. .
The messaging was not lax. ACLU and the dems were all warning about it. Candidates did. Harris mentioned it at the debate.
tfg constantly denied it.
"“I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump wrote in a July 5 Truth Social post. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”
Project 2025 said it “does not speak for any candidate or campaign” in a July 5 post on X, formerly Twitter. Its playbook is comprised of suggestions the coalition believes will benefit the "next conservative president.""
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/07/10/trump-project-2025-heritage-foundation-fact-check/74340278007/
She "mentioned" it. Gee, I wonder how that didn't work.
Sorry if I did not know that.
It was hard to keep up with all this crap with trump. I'm sure that more than you never got a good picture of it.
I first heard about it in here and then on Youtube a lot. Texted about with a couple of my out of state buddies. Spread the news to my family including links to their site and emailed the family their actual published pdf.
Then a guy in the Astronomy club I belong to came up to me and asked if I had heard about 2025.
We had a long discussion
I don't think there was much out there about it. We learned a lot about it on a podcast.
Where do you get your news from? because obviously that's the area that was missed because it was talked about here on wonkette, on social media and in the MSM.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/project-2025-all-done-going-home?utm_source=publication-search
https://www.wonkette.com/p/trump-lackey-still-planning-project?utm_source=publication-search
the MSM is the only source that matters when you're not already one of us. And there was precious little on 2025 going on there.
Soap-box time: We need a media messaging machine to match the right-wing one. With in-your-face programming about this and everything else fucked-up about Republicans, and everything Democrats do that help Americans lead better lives. THAT is where millions if not billions of $$ need to go NOW. In addition to vetting candidates for 2026 and '28 NOW and on TV and social media and on our OWN networks. We need to create our own echo-chamber with truth and facts. We need to fix the GD Dem messaging apparatus, or create one cuz I don't think there is one. This has been a 50 year plan with the 'thugs. We have two years to catch up.
The reason Kamala Harris went on fox is because supposedly they get their news from.
Most get it from podcasts or SM
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2023/04/18/podcasts-as-a-source-of-news-and-information/
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/fact-sheet/news-platform-fact-sheet/
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/fact-sheet/social-media-and-news-fact-sheet/
PS. Of course I saw it here, with the rest of the choir. So what? Social media? With its logarithms? So what? We need to do a "Bannon" and flood the zone with reality. Dems need to own the narrative.
Not to mention there were several substacks exclusively dedicated to it such as author Andra Watkins who recently did a podcast with our own Evan.
Oh jeez. Seriously? I am sure TONS of undecideds checked out all those substacks. NOT.
Ta, Rebecca. I'm glad I never had kids; you do a great job! More baking sounds good. Our first wedding present (given to us by Eclipse Friend in April) was a vintage red KitchenAid stand mixer. We had to buy a dough hook for it, and it works like a charm. Oh, she also gave us a pizza stone. Darling husband Meccalopolis makes the tomato sauce; I make the dough, oil it, sauce it, (vegan) cheese it, and top it, usually with mushrooms and olive slices, last time grilled artichoke hearts, too. Husband handles the pizza stone.
I love my KitchenAid mixer, it’s the greatest!
You need a pizza peel so you can get it out easily.
Homemade is so much better than the store or takeout.
My sweet husband has “welder’s hands” and pulls out the stone with oven mitts, while I slide the parchment paper containing the pie from the stone onto the butcher block, and cut the basil leaves onto the bubbling pizza. We’re a great team.
My gf is vegan, I'm omni. She can't eat tomatoes, so we can't even share a pizza.
Pizza does not require tomato sauce. It can be caramelized onion and red pepper and all kinds of other things. Or make vegan ricotta (soak macadamias overnight, strain and reserve the soak water, add some nutritional yeast, and blend in a food processor or strong blender, adding soak water if needed a tiny bit at a time) for white pizza. Top with spinach, herbs, mushrooms, or what-have-you.
Thanks for the info! We're going to try it.
I’m trying to process Tuesday. One thing I’ve watched is people on the left, my friends, my allies, take to schadenfreude at the idea that trump will bring pain to people who voted for him thinking he would bring about the change they want…I get it, it’s fuck around; find out time…but…but, I am also frightened by this shift. I’m frightened by leftists/democrats/liberals, whatever label fits, actually enjoying the suffering that is sure to come. Prior to Tuesday these same people would tout we do this for ALL Americans. Are we giving up on that? Are we stooping to maga levels of epicaricacy? Do we really want to find joy watching a young woman who voted for trump bleed out in a hospital parking lot? Do we want to rejoice watching a trump voter’s pain when ICE comes for their cousin? Are we gonna cheer the child who loses access to cancer treatment because mommy and daddy are MAGA?
We voted the way we did on Tuesday because we want to mitigate harm and suffering that people face. We seek to find ways to fix problems and help people…we want to believe we are the people who will stand up against the bully, but what are we if we adopt the attitude and tactics of the bully?
I spent a lot of time yesterday questioning my very humanity…if we go that way, if we shift toward recriminations of our political opponents, then are we not abandoning our higher ideals?
I know we are all processing this differently and it takes time to recover, but I don’t want to fall under the false pleasure maga enjoys of watching people suffer. I don’t want to be them.
i know you're exactly right. i will get back to my moderated self. soon.
but for the next little while, the schadenfreude is going to win out.
It's not enjoying the suffering. Its an anger response to the people on the right gloating about how upset people are. We know what is coming and they seem to think that its all going to be gravy and awesome for them. That their vote haven't put them into the pot along with everyone else. Remember most still haven't learned that "its not the right people who are being hurt".
There is not really ANYTHING to stop what is coming. They have the house (potentially), senate, presidency and the supreme court. People will try but the maga and MSM are going to place the blame on the Dems.
It's just people looking at who they have the emotion bandwidth to care about now. And unfortunately for the people who voted for their daughters and wives to bleed out and for them and their cousin to be rounded up and all the other daily stories of "I voted for tfg and I didn't think this bad thing will happen". There is very little left but "we told you so".
It's fine if you want to stand there and wring your hands about not becoming the bully. But there are whole load of people who are angry and not where you are, and may never be and that's ok. There are also people who are angry and rolling up their sleeve and doing what they can to help who they can.
Also can I point out worse case in four years there is no election. They have and are talking about suspending the constitution. So no article 22.
Edit to add: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hD0v9d6uwY
We are now in triage mode. Help wherever and whenever we can, no matter who or how they voted. To quote a certain muppet, “fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.” If we hold it against those who voted for trump when the hurt comes, and it will come, I hope we can all maintain some sense of compassion, cuz if we don’t I worry we only add to the suffering.
"Ahimsa is the attribute of the soul, and therefore, to be practiced by everybody in all affairs of life. If it cannot be practiced in all departments, it has no practical value."
Ok but you cannot save everyone. You can only help as much as you can and you cannot save anyone from themselves or their choices. We are not doctors saving patients or lawyers who are practising the law.
Also the type of people you are talking about; some would look at a helping hand and spit in your face for who the helpers are.
It's that old story about the man on the rooftop in a flood who turns down help because they're waiting on god and he when he gets to heaven god says I sent you a help three times.
There is no legal mechanism to suspend the constitution, and a rather large number of heavily armed and organized people sworn to defend it against enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Of course, you can fantasize about it being done, but you're in Elon-Musk-Colonizes-Mars territory then.
Since when does "legal mechanism" bother them?
Will the supremes care about "legal mechanisms"? now that they had premptively told "the Donald" that he would be a king?
I just know that tfg and his maga people were musing pretty much out loud about it.
I also know its a fear some people on the left are worried that tfg just wont leave.
I'm glad to hear it is a very very unachievable goal.
Well, but... they're making ALL of us suffer. So... I'm okay with them suffering too. I'm not going to take away my SS $, but if they try to, well, the gauntlet is then thrown.
“how happy we will be when bad things happen to everyone who caused this”
I think this right here is the difference between now and 2016. Last time we thought, well maybe they didn’t understand what they were voting for, but a little education and they’ll change their allegiance. So we were told to be civil and kind and jolly them along to see the error of their ways. This time, there is no excuse. The voters made their choice and voted for hate with extra added misogyny. And I’m done with them. I will answer back bluntly. I will be exercising my “block” function ruthlessly. I might even call them names in certain circumstances. And when they cry that employment is falling, but the price of everything has gone up, I’ll tell them that’s exactly what they voted for.
Thanks for this Rebecca. I am so fucking pissed I feel like I must be a crazy person. Driving home from work yesterday, I was furious at everyone around me thinking "which one of you assholes voted for Trump?" It has floated across my mind a couple of times today that I should buy a gun and learn how to use it *to defend my family. And I HATE fucking guns. Judging by all the comments, I am not the only one feeling like an angry rage monster. I've always thought a martial arts class would be interesting. Guess I'll look into that instead.
*edited to add for self defense purposes only
Right there with ya on the distrust of all humanity. Well, American humanity anyhow.
Hope everyone will be prepared if the debt ceiling isn't raised next year and the Republicans force the government to default on our debt.
Elno said we should brace ourselves for some economic pain when Trump assumes office. Would not be surprised if this is part of the plan.
If I recall he also said we'd all have to tighten our belts. So I guess one less yacht for each billionaire too?
Won't happen. The Repukes always just vote to raise the debt ceiling when a Repuke is Prez. No drama at all.