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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s and to my recollection a good number of the war movies that were made in the 1940s and after said the Nazis were bad, if not evil, and were enemies of human decency, democracy, and liked to kill innocent people. So now we are to believe that an avowed Nazi and all of the things he believed in are things to be proud of? Strange because Germany and Europe are still fighting their racist and anti democracy hatred even now. And in the US we give them medals of freedom? And proper military burials for trying to overthrow the US Government? I am not ok with this by a long shot. It is wrong! This president will lead us down a very dark and dismal path unless we get rid of him, and soon!

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Helen's avatar

Nancy Mace, heed the words of Tracy Chapman. She is much smarter and a far better person than you will ever be.

I know Jesus loves me

In my heart I know it's true

I know Mary's little baby

Came into the world

Just to save me

But I don't know about you

… My God's a mighty big God

My God can shake the world up

Plagues and famines

Frogs and locusts

Walking on water

Burning bushes

Rolling the thunder

And parting the waters too

… My God is good in the kitchen

Make a good meal from bread and fishes

Feed the hungry pour the wine

Everybodys welcome to have a good time

Sit at his table enjoy the food

… I know Jesus loves me

He says I should love you

My neighbor not his wife

Don't covet steal kill or lie

My God's got a lot of rules

… My God made creation

Six days work one day vacation

Made a garden

Filled it with apples

Adam and Eve they walked around natural

Until they are that one piece of bad fruit

… I've heard that your God's older

Buddha, Allah, Krishna

Manifest with many faces

Worshipped the world over in foreign places

I assume your God must love you

… I know Jesus loves me

And my God is good and great and true

But if pride goeth before the fall

I hope someone's God will save us all

Save us all

And love the sinners too

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Helen's avatar

Sorry for the somewhat weird non comments of late, hope no one was too upset. I recently broke my wrist and further knocked my head in a fall. I think the combo of frustration thru being unable to use my dominant hand, plus some after effect of the anaesthetic muddled my brain a bit. I was trying to write "knots" ala R D Laing (no I don't hero worship him. Idols are for children and adolescents who need role models.) but I got a bit outraged over the Epstein "jokes" because I am close to some who have been deeply affected by CSA.

I still think the media should not profit thru reporting on crime. Can we pass a Law requiring all media outlets to donate a proportion to the victims, so they can get the help they need quickly, be it grief therapy, physio, psycho therapy, legal costs, whatever? Instead of having to sue the criminal and wait for years for it to wind thru the courts? Has T**** paid E Jean Carroll yet, following the ultimate court order?

Charlie Kirk got shot? Oh Jesus. Where's a super smart lawyer who can draft in a way that gives help to his kids, while not giving a dime to the wife? She'll will make bank off his death on the Right Wing talk circuit.

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GrannysKnitting's avatar

as long as the shooter was not identified they were valuable as a tool to stir further hate driven agendas - as soon as they arrested the guy, he was no longer useful to them, so time to find another tool to use

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RRJKR's avatar

People who had the biggest beef with Charlie Kirk were not leftists, but rather other neo-Nazis who felt he was "diluting" the message. Not doing Nazi good enough!

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RRJKR's avatar

How long before we hear that Tyler had recently converted to Islam, was a member of the Communist Party and was dating a trans girl?

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Brianna Amore's avatar

Well they've already got the dating a trans girl down.

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𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

Imagine being *that* terrible ... and still not knowing that you're terrible.

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Mart's avatar

Read from a winger the reason that Tyler murdered Kirk was he was dating a transvestite. It never fucking ends.

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RRJKR's avatar

Transvestite? A guy who frequently dresses in a more feminine style? Like Steven Tyler?

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carovee's avatar

The right will never accept responsibility. Or give up vilifying trans people.

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jltympanum's avatar

When he was alive, it was OK to point out the CK advocated for all sorts of deplorable things. Now that he is dead, it's no longer OK?

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RRJKR's avatar

Still OK People say plenty of bad things about Hitler and Stalin for instnace,

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carovee's avatar

According to MSM, yes.

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jltympanum's avatar

Fun fact: "Kirk" is an informal name for the Church of Scotland.

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RRJKR's avatar

And the name of a Starship captain

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jltympanum's avatar

How come the victims of mass shootings are children, music-lovers and ordinary citizens who are just trying to get through their lives, while the truly evil among us, like S. Miller, D. Trump and S. Alito (to mention just a few) are immune?

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Maybe's avatar

Actually, the radical righters were a little off their game. At no point did hear that the shooter was a Muslim. Or a gay. Or spent much of his time eating babies in the basement of a pizza parlor that doesn't have a basement.

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𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

Those targets are so 2017.

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RRJKR's avatar

Why are we not hearing more about the long standing animosity between Charlie Kirk's Turning Point and Nick Fuente's Groypers Groypers have been coming out to harass Kirk at all of his events. Why am I only reading this in the Indian press? This was gang war between two neo-fascist groups.

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carovee's avatar

Because that does not fit the preferred narrative.

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jltympanum's avatar

What if whenever something like this happens, someone were to post the made-up name of the imaginary perp, with his picture -- a pix of Donald Trump? Would doing this get anyone in trouble with the Secret Service?

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RRJKR's avatar

IDK but people all over the country are being fired both from public and private sector jobs for saying anything that is not sufficiently supportive of Kirk.

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carovee's avatar

For Kirk. He was such a graceless tool.

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Rick G.'s avatar

I have a simple rule: show me your comment deploring the terrible murders and shootings in Minnesota over the summer, or STFU. No exceptions. No bothsideism. No "they had it coming". No comedy. You either decried it unreservedly, or your opinion is worthless.

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Ess's avatar

I bet my money on groyper all the way

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RRJKR's avatar

Makes sense I have read they have a real hate for Kirk and Turning Point

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