Can we also start regulating the supplement industry so that the supplements actually contain the chemicals they are supposed to contain? I don't even care if they actually work or not but it would be nice if people could be assured they getting the product and dose they paid for.
If you are getting those supplements from China or india, there is a high probability that they are grown in tailings piles from nearby mines. Outstanding if you want a hefty dose of toxic heavy metals
"“This is a sugar pill with absolutely no detectable trace of the supposed actual ingredient” or “Homeopathy relies on the premise of water having a memory, which is obviously not a real thing.”"
Dr. Sydnee McElroy of the Sawbones podcast, what are you doing here?? 😉
Glad about the phenylephrine is gone! I have seasonal allergies that are mostly handled with long-term allergy meds. But there are some weeks during the fall and spring where I need pseudoephedrine and I'm more than willing to sign a paper and show my ID to get it. I promise that the replacement crap does not work.
Yeah, the FDA requires all new meds to show efficacy and has for decades, but some of the older stuff got grandfathered in and never has been. Glad they're getting around to it.
Dr. Mike on YouTube had a recent review of the top ten "helf" products from Amazon. Only two of the ten he purchased were things he'd actually recommend for their intended purpose (a portable white noise machine and positive messages in a bottle.) Every other one was making wildly misleading health claims, such as sound repairing DNA, or smoke banishing negative energy.
I only recently, maybe a month or two ago, read an article that the phenlyephrine was useless and threw out all the "medication" I had containing it. Went to the pharmacy and requested actual Sudafed, which I got.
Then two different medical providers told me, "don't take that, it gives you high blood pressure."
FFS, it seems like medical providers lack education in chemistry, which is why they are crap at actually prescribing things that work and so susceptible to pharma marketing.
Or here's an idea. I'm just spitballing here but maybe, just maybe the consumer rights portion of the government can get involved. I mean I appreciate CVS voluntarily pulling the medication that doesn't treat the very specific symptoms it claims to treat but, and I am no consumer advocate, but I feel like this should be more of a situation where CVS voluntarily pulls it ahead of the government doing it for them. Also, maybe manufacturers should be held accountable for medication that doesn't work, I mean if a chair manufacturer made chairs that had a certain weight limit and the chair burst into splinters when exposed to barely a quarter of its weight limit that chair company would be in big trouble mister.
It seems strange that a business that survives by selling things that people want would stop selling something because it doesn't work. It's like anti-capitalism or something.
I find it kind of amusing that the Founding Fathers—the guys whose images we put on marble stands, statues in the Capitol, the ones we learn about in school, the geniuses who wrote the Constitution by which all citizens supposedly live—were pretty much fucking zonkered all the time.
Water wasn’t always safe to drink, and milk could be damned suspect. It was safer to drink rum, or, lacking that, wine, beer, or mead. The baby nation almost unraveled over whiskey.
The old boys also smoked tobacco that was probably far more potent than your average Marlboro. They grew that shit using slave labor and hooked Europe (and eventually the whole world). And then there was this newfangled stuff called coffee that kicked tea’s ass right out the door. Plus they had opium, hashish, and, if they couldn’t get their hands on tobacco, plain old weed.
Let’s face it, shall we? We’re a nation of heads. We were dreamed up by heads and won the Revolution with heads and used heads to kill the natives, who were also heads. We gobbled alcohol, opium, dope, chloroform, and ether all through the westward expansion and the manufacturing revolution. Why the fuck do you think the Duke talked like he was three fuckin’ sheets to wind all the time, pardner? You think that’s a drawl?
Despite our rapidly expanding technology, we’re still the same nation of heads, thieves, con artists, common drunkards, and hustlers that we’ve always been. We just pretend otherwise.
They drank a staggering amount of booze back then. And like a common Trump refused to pay taxes. But there were a lot of blahs to keep under control and those natives weren't dying off quick enough. And then there were the French. Maybe the alcohol was called for.
Humans tinker with their consciousness. Alexander Shulgin was the best tinkerer ever.
I have the personal opinion that people are very good at finding the recreational pharmaceutical that they need. But they absolutely suck at getting the dosage right.
I had this thc ticture I made but never used bc the alcohol is too burny. The kids call it green dragon. I poured it into a mug to let some alcohol evaporate. been dropping some over toof and it works rather nicely. I'd taken this before and didn't feel an effect. Could also be the fancy pants weed too.
I miss gas-station Ephedrine.
Can we also start regulating the supplement industry so that the supplements actually contain the chemicals they are supposed to contain? I don't even care if they actually work or not but it would be nice if people could be assured they getting the product and dose they paid for.
The congresscritters from Utah will never let it happen. Supplements are the bread and butter of their manufacturing industry.
If you are getting those supplements from China or india, there is a high probability that they are grown in tailings piles from nearby mines. Outstanding if you want a hefty dose of toxic heavy metals
"“This is a sugar pill with absolutely no detectable trace of the supposed actual ingredient” or “Homeopathy relies on the premise of water having a memory, which is obviously not a real thing.”"
Dr. Sydnee McElroy of the Sawbones podcast, what are you doing here?? 😉
Now do all the ineffective crap labelled 'homeopathic."
Glad about the phenylephrine is gone! I have seasonal allergies that are mostly handled with long-term allergy meds. But there are some weeks during the fall and spring where I need pseudoephedrine and I'm more than willing to sign a paper and show my ID to get it. I promise that the replacement crap does not work.
Yeah, the FDA requires all new meds to show efficacy and has for decades, but some of the older stuff got grandfathered in and never has been. Glad they're getting around to it.
The fair IS a big deal.
Nice motorcycle ride away. A group from north Berkshire go every year. I tagged along occasionally
Dr. Mike on YouTube had a recent review of the top ten "helf" products from Amazon. Only two of the ten he purchased were things he'd actually recommend for their intended purpose (a portable white noise machine and positive messages in a bottle.) Every other one was making wildly misleading health claims, such as sound repairing DNA, or smoke banishing negative energy.
The positive messages in a bottle are pretty fun.
A little correction, the FDA says phenylephrine doesn't work in pill form. It does work as a nasal spray.
I only recently, maybe a month or two ago, read an article that the phenlyephrine was useless and threw out all the "medication" I had containing it. Went to the pharmacy and requested actual Sudafed, which I got.
Then two different medical providers told me, "don't take that, it gives you high blood pressure."
It's not so much that it causes high BP, it's that it can raise existing high BP which is not good.
FFS, it seems like medical providers lack education in chemistry, which is why they are crap at actually prescribing things that work and so susceptible to pharma marketing.
Oh, I thought they just really liked money and didn't give a shit about their patients.
Or here's an idea. I'm just spitballing here but maybe, just maybe the consumer rights portion of the government can get involved. I mean I appreciate CVS voluntarily pulling the medication that doesn't treat the very specific symptoms it claims to treat but, and I am no consumer advocate, but I feel like this should be more of a situation where CVS voluntarily pulls it ahead of the government doing it for them. Also, maybe manufacturers should be held accountable for medication that doesn't work, I mean if a chair manufacturer made chairs that had a certain weight limit and the chair burst into splinters when exposed to barely a quarter of its weight limit that chair company would be in big trouble mister.
Lobbyists from Big Chair would quickly put the kibosh on *that.*
It seems strange that a business that survives by selling things that people want would stop selling something because it doesn't work. It's like anti-capitalism or something.
It's called "fraud" and our society if rife with people who got wealthy off it.
Hmmm... Next they will be pulling Brawndo.
But...𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘺𝘵𝘦𝘴!
I find anything with eucalyptus oil in it is incredibly effective at clearing my sinuses.
I make a household cleaning solution of 50% pine cleaner and 50% ammonia. It doesn't just clear sinuses, it absolutely scours them.
Grand Mariner for me! They drown on that at work, though.
Frown
Though "drown" may be appropriate at times...
I was thinking the same thing! Ah yes, wishful thinking. It's a beautiful thing.
If you feel nausea sniffing spearmint or peppermint oil quickly relieves it too.
My daughter gets travel sick sometimes, we never travel by bus or car without a packet of mints.
I find it kind of amusing that the Founding Fathers—the guys whose images we put on marble stands, statues in the Capitol, the ones we learn about in school, the geniuses who wrote the Constitution by which all citizens supposedly live—were pretty much fucking zonkered all the time.
Water wasn’t always safe to drink, and milk could be damned suspect. It was safer to drink rum, or, lacking that, wine, beer, or mead. The baby nation almost unraveled over whiskey.
The old boys also smoked tobacco that was probably far more potent than your average Marlboro. They grew that shit using slave labor and hooked Europe (and eventually the whole world). And then there was this newfangled stuff called coffee that kicked tea’s ass right out the door. Plus they had opium, hashish, and, if they couldn’t get their hands on tobacco, plain old weed.
Let’s face it, shall we? We’re a nation of heads. We were dreamed up by heads and won the Revolution with heads and used heads to kill the natives, who were also heads. We gobbled alcohol, opium, dope, chloroform, and ether all through the westward expansion and the manufacturing revolution. Why the fuck do you think the Duke talked like he was three fuckin’ sheets to wind all the time, pardner? You think that’s a drawl?
Despite our rapidly expanding technology, we’re still the same nation of heads, thieves, con artists, common drunkards, and hustlers that we’ve always been. We just pretend otherwise.
💯
They drank a staggering amount of booze back then. And like a common Trump refused to pay taxes. But there were a lot of blahs to keep under control and those natives weren't dying off quick enough. And then there were the French. Maybe the alcohol was called for.
Humans tinker with their consciousness. Alexander Shulgin was the best tinkerer ever.
I have the personal opinion that people are very good at finding the recreational pharmaceutical that they need. But they absolutely suck at getting the dosage right.
Dosage can be a moving target.
I read most of pikhal and tikhal and I was quite a disciple of shulgin for a while in my life. 😉
Pihkal, a chemical love story … TL: DNR … followed his work for years … a pioneer …
I had this thc ticture I made but never used bc the alcohol is too burny. The kids call it green dragon. I poured it into a mug to let some alcohol evaporate. been dropping some over toof and it works rather nicely. I'd taken this before and didn't feel an effect. Could also be the fancy pants weed too.
Rinsing with warm salt water is best for tooth pain in my experience.
Been doing a ton of that too!