She asked them to be prepared to discuss scheduling issues at the already set hearing today:
PAPERLESS ORDER: The parties shall be prepared to discuss the Government's Motion for Continuance and Proposed Revised Scheduling Order 34 at the CIPA Section 2 pretrial conference scheduled for July 18, 2023, including the proposed deadlines contained therein [34-2] and particularized objections thereto, in light of 18 U.S.C. § 3161, the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, and the CIPA. Signed by Judge Aileen M. Cannon on 7/17/2023. (kts) (Entered: 07/17/2023)
Hate to sound like a complete caveman here, but the law moves far too slowly. Not sure who is to blame, but good lord, you people need to start working faster. Everything is three day workday this and four month delay that. You just don't work very hard, and your methods are antiquated. Its a large part of why we're still in the mess were in. This whole thing relies on a bunch of preening, egotistical fat bodies drooling over tumblers of scotch and backslapping each other over their retainer fees. Trump should be serving his third or fourth year behind bars right now. Enough is enough.
Unless Judge cannon wants to shoot herself in the foot and pour years of law schoolin' down the drain she best step off: https://youtube.com/shorts/-ScIlown8DY
It seems to me that the fact that the defendant is a leading candidate for the Presidency makes it all the more imperative that this criminal proceeding be concluded BEFORE the election, not AFTER. A defendant who really thinks he’s innocent would want the trial sooner, not later, so the electorate would know he’s not guilty when they go to the polls. Of course, Trump is not that. He’s a fucking moronic, two bit scofflaw, 100% unfit for anything.
If they really wanted to defer it, Chris Kise and Todd Blanche should have cited that in Dec 2023, Pendejo will be in the middle of his 3rd defamation trial by E Jean Carroll because he won't shut his fucking mouth. That is a reason the judge could believe.
Liz, you're amazing! Great breakdown, and I absolutely love the contrast between lawyers who know their craft, and these shit-stains on the legal profession currently ruining any possibility of practicing law in any meaningful way ever again.
Yeah, but fuck the DOJ and their "flagging" "key" parts of videos. Prosecutors always think the Defense only needs to see the bits of evidence that the Government considers relevant.
Flagging relevant bits doesn't necessarily mean blocking all the other bits. The impression I got was that the flagging was meant to streamline the process for the defense, thus contradicting/forestalling Trump's "this is all too complicated and will take too much time, so....." argument.
Seems to me there is a very limited window of time that would be available for exculpatory evidence to exist: the indictment alleges that boxes containing classified information were removed just before the attorney visit to search for additional classified information; that means the defense has to review only the time from the boxes being removed until the attorney visit (what, 36 hours or so?), to try and find footage of the boxes being replaced before the attorney visit.
The process of defending a person charged with multiple felonies isn't meant to be "streamlined." DOJ is offering a disingenuous argument that since they helpfully indexed the parts they think are relevant, the Defense won't need as much time to review the rest of the evidence. That's not how legal representation works. The defense has a duty to review *everything*, whether the Government thinks its important, or not.
"The defense has a duty to review *everything*, whether the Government thinks its important, or not."
Well...here's the thing:
Asa noted in my comment above, the footage will only be relevant in the analysis of whether there was a conscious attempt to conceal classified information.
The indictment alleges that information was removed from a certain storage space just before the visit of an attorney who was supposed to examine the boxes in that storage space and certify no classified information was present at Mar-A-Lago; the video is the evidence of removal cited.
So the only exculpatory evidence that could be on that video would be found during the time between the removal of the boxes and the departure of the certifying attorney, which is a period of about 36 hours.
It is undeniably true that the defense seeds to review everything that can provide them useful information, but to claim they must painstakingly review all nine months of video is, based on this context, not grounded in reality.
Uh, yeah, anyone setting a trial date is. There is never enough time to fully prepare for a felony jury trial. A trial must be set, so everyone who has ever defended a client at trial has had to be underprepared to some degree. That doesn't mean the trial should be postponed indefinitely, but circling back to my original point, DOJ is being disingenuous in its claim that "flagging" parts of the video is at all relevant to how much time the Defense needs to prepare.
"As a function of Plaintiff’s former position as President of the United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own. A future indictment, based to any degree on property that ought to be returned, would result in reputational harm of a decidedly different order of magnitude."
Two things here: First, The definition of a "Former President Of The United States" is "Private Citizen". Second: She's right: "reputational harm" does tend to happen when the FBI executes a search warrant of your home and finds evidence that implicates you in a crime.
She asked them to be prepared to discuss scheduling issues at the already set hearing today:
PAPERLESS ORDER: The parties shall be prepared to discuss the Government's Motion for Continuance and Proposed Revised Scheduling Order 34 at the CIPA Section 2 pretrial conference scheduled for July 18, 2023, including the proposed deadlines contained therein [34-2] and particularized objections thereto, in light of 18 U.S.C. § 3161, the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, and the CIPA. Signed by Judge Aileen M. Cannon on 7/17/2023. (kts) (Entered: 07/17/2023)
Hate to sound like a complete caveman here, but the law moves far too slowly. Not sure who is to blame, but good lord, you people need to start working faster. Everything is three day workday this and four month delay that. You just don't work very hard, and your methods are antiquated. Its a large part of why we're still in the mess were in. This whole thing relies on a bunch of preening, egotistical fat bodies drooling over tumblers of scotch and backslapping each other over their retainer fees. Trump should be serving his third or fourth year behind bars right now. Enough is enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRyDlVOE86U
Unless Judge cannon wants to shoot herself in the foot and pour years of law schoolin' down the drain she best step off: https://youtube.com/shorts/-ScIlown8DY
It seems to me that the fact that the defendant is a leading candidate for the Presidency makes it all the more imperative that this criminal proceeding be concluded BEFORE the election, not AFTER. A defendant who really thinks he’s innocent would want the trial sooner, not later, so the electorate would know he’s not guilty when they go to the polls. Of course, Trump is not that. He’s a fucking moronic, two bit scofflaw, 100% unfit for anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LTRwZb35A&list=PLjmvOW2mDb4AZlMC7Ly6ymENLFsP57WN9&index=14
Sad to say, but the schedule really depends on whether trump calling her “smart” and shooting finger guns at her makes her swoon, or vomit.
If she does both simultaneously we may need a change of venue.
Completely innocent people always want to prolong the legal process for TOTAL EXONERATION.
If they really wanted to defer it, Chris Kise and Todd Blanche should have cited that in Dec 2023, Pendejo will be in the middle of his 3rd defamation trial by E Jean Carroll because he won't shut his fucking mouth. That is a reason the judge could believe.
Except he didn't even attend the first trial.
Fuck this shit. Let's just go to the summary execution phase of the process and end this shitshow.
Liz, you're amazing! Great breakdown, and I absolutely love the contrast between lawyers who know their craft, and these shit-stains on the legal profession currently ruining any possibility of practicing law in any meaningful way ever again.
Yeah, but fuck the DOJ and their "flagging" "key" parts of videos. Prosecutors always think the Defense only needs to see the bits of evidence that the Government considers relevant.
Flagging relevant bits doesn't necessarily mean blocking all the other bits. The impression I got was that the flagging was meant to streamline the process for the defense, thus contradicting/forestalling Trump's "this is all too complicated and will take too much time, so....." argument.
Seems to me there is a very limited window of time that would be available for exculpatory evidence to exist: the indictment alleges that boxes containing classified information were removed just before the attorney visit to search for additional classified information; that means the defense has to review only the time from the boxes being removed until the attorney visit (what, 36 hours or so?), to try and find footage of the boxes being replaced before the attorney visit.
The process of defending a person charged with multiple felonies isn't meant to be "streamlined." DOJ is offering a disingenuous argument that since they helpfully indexed the parts they think are relevant, the Defense won't need as much time to review the rest of the evidence. That's not how legal representation works. The defense has a duty to review *everything*, whether the Government thinks its important, or not.
"The defense has a duty to review *everything*, whether the Government thinks its important, or not."
Well...here's the thing:
Asa noted in my comment above, the footage will only be relevant in the analysis of whether there was a conscious attempt to conceal classified information.
The indictment alleges that information was removed from a certain storage space just before the visit of an attorney who was supposed to examine the boxes in that storage space and certify no classified information was present at Mar-A-Lago; the video is the evidence of removal cited.
So the only exculpatory evidence that could be on that video would be found during the time between the removal of the boxes and the departure of the certifying attorney, which is a period of about 36 hours.
It is undeniably true that the defense seeds to review everything that can provide them useful information, but to claim they must painstakingly review all nine months of video is, based on this context, not grounded in reality.
Yes, that is indeed their duty. And no one is stopping them from doing their full duty.
Uh, yeah, anyone setting a trial date is. There is never enough time to fully prepare for a felony jury trial. A trial must be set, so everyone who has ever defended a client at trial has had to be underprepared to some degree. That doesn't mean the trial should be postponed indefinitely, but circling back to my original point, DOJ is being disingenuous in its claim that "flagging" parts of the video is at all relevant to how much time the Defense needs to prepare.
Well, IANAL, have a good night.
That is some impressive shit-spewing by Trump's so-called legal team, and some snappy ripostes by the gubmint.
"Judge" Cannon:
"As a function of Plaintiff’s former position as President of the United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own. A future indictment, based to any degree on property that ought to be returned, would result in reputational harm of a decidedly different order of magnitude."
Two things here: First, The definition of a "Former President Of The United States" is "Private Citizen". Second: She's right: "reputational harm" does tend to happen when the FBI executes a search warrant of your home and finds evidence that implicates you in a crime.
They did it to that Manafort guy, and they weren't even nice about it, and my opinion of him certainly went down.
I heard that judge cannon was fucked by a ghost and the divorced it. So she’s a bit bitter.
I think that was Kari Lake.
Put the national security risk in prison until the trial. That'll change their minds.