You don't need to be religious to know people by their fruits.
Any spirituality brought into politics frightens me, no matter who does it, because it opens the door to others who are less well-meaning than Rep. Cummings.
I'm at work but have been listening off and on at my desk. The speeches from all have been so beautifully moving. I also appreciated the little (well deserved) "digs" here and there. His wife, daughters and President Obama had me crying the most.
What a beautiful send off for a truly wonderful human being.
I didn't miss the point, and it's not my job to define who's a "real Christian."
Christianity was used to justify slavery, justify Jim Crow, justify preventing women from being equal in society for thousands of years, for criminalising LGBT people, and those weren't evangelicals doing it.
This is a good example of why I still go to church, and why it's an African-American church I go to. The service almost always strengthens and uplifts me.Also: thx, Dok, for letting us know the funeral was being livestreamed. I was able to catch some of it.
All churches are exclusionary to a degree. The Catholic Church is just as controlling as evangelical churches.
They lie to people in Africa about condoms because dying of a disease is preferable to using any form of contraception at all.
Almost no church thinks I should have rights.
And imagine if Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib got up on the floor of Congress and said that their faith in Allah moved them to advance or oppose legislation; every church in the land would be calling for their heads. They do not believe in equal rights and never have.
As much as I dislike Tulsi Gabbard, imagine if she said her faith in her strange Hindu offshoot was what moved her to advance or oppose legislation. The same would happen to her.
It's almost as if faith isn't a pathway to truth at all.
I'm going to have to bail out. That service for Rep. Cummings was quite draining. At Casa Tumbleweed it's time for a toast to that great man's life.
But you can't ignore the millions of people that use religion to justify bigotry and oppression. The only way to reach them is by constantly reminding them that the person they worship was a refugee once, and advocated for the poor, homeless, and oppressed people he lived among. And also repeated many times that wealth and pretentious displays of piety would not save you. By saying they are wrong to even have whatever faith they have means they will tune you out immediately. If you can't open the door to their mind, you will never be able to change their outlook.
You've missed my point, I think.
The "evangelical" movement is a disease.
You don't need to be religious to know people by their fruits.
Any spirituality brought into politics frightens me, no matter who does it, because it opens the door to others who are less well-meaning than Rep. Cummings.
I do love Lift Every Voice and Sing.
I'm at work but have been listening off and on at my desk. The speeches from all have been so beautifully moving. I also appreciated the little (well deserved) "digs" here and there. His wife, daughters and President Obama had me crying the most.
What a beautiful send off for a truly wonderful human being.
You must not now anyone that is/was deeply faithful and profoundly patriotic.
People like that exist.
Sure they do. The overwhelming majority of the country is Christian.
It is not patriotic to mix religion with politics.
That was quite a moving remembrance for Rep. Cummings. That had my tears out in a number of places.
I'm going to bail for now. Need some down time.
I didn't miss the point, and it's not my job to define who's a "real Christian."
Christianity was used to justify slavery, justify Jim Crow, justify preventing women from being equal in society for thousands of years, for criminalising LGBT people, and those weren't evangelicals doing it.
Faith my friend is not equal to Christianity.
The evangelical "movement" is exclusionary - and based in the depths you speak of - that is about control.
This is a good example of why I still go to church, and why it's an African-American church I go to. The service almost always strengthens and uplifts me.Also: thx, Dok, for letting us know the funeral was being livestreamed. I was able to catch some of it.
Faith is belief without evidence.
All churches are exclusionary to a degree. The Catholic Church is just as controlling as evangelical churches.
They lie to people in Africa about condoms because dying of a disease is preferable to using any form of contraception at all.
Almost no church thinks I should have rights.
And imagine if Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib got up on the floor of Congress and said that their faith in Allah moved them to advance or oppose legislation; every church in the land would be calling for their heads. They do not believe in equal rights and never have.
As much as I dislike Tulsi Gabbard, imagine if she said her faith in her strange Hindu offshoot was what moved her to advance or oppose legislation. The same would happen to her.
It's almost as if faith isn't a pathway to truth at all.
I'm going to have to bail out. That service for Rep. Cummings was quite draining. At Casa Tumbleweed it's time for a toast to that great man's life.
Yeah, you missed my point. Over and out.
I'm not sure what the point was, so maybe I did.
Mine was simple enough: I fear mixing religion and politics, no matter the good will of the person.
But a funeral is the wrong time to say that
Representative Cummings will be missed.
But you can't ignore the millions of people that use religion to justify bigotry and oppression. The only way to reach them is by constantly reminding them that the person they worship was a refugee once, and advocated for the poor, homeless, and oppressed people he lived among. And also repeated many times that wealth and pretentious displays of piety would not save you. By saying they are wrong to even have whatever faith they have means they will tune you out immediately. If you can't open the door to their mind, you will never be able to change their outlook.