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NATO had no role in provoking Russia to invade Ukraine. Full stop. You even deleted your account and ran off to sulk because no one here was buying your claims that this was all NATO's fault and Ukraine just needed to give Russia whatever it wanted.

You start with bullshit and everything that follows is more bullshit.

NATO has been on the Russian border for decades. Inconvenient to your bullshit, but it's true.

Fucking idiot.

I'll take your exensive knowledge of the realities of war and laugh. You do know playing Call of Duty or am RTS is not actual experience, yes?

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So your going to maintain that NATO is at fault. NATO crossed Russian red lines 30 years ago and Russia had no choice but to invade Ukraine now. Russia invaded a non NATO state, one with no near or even mid term prospects of even asking to join NATO, let alone be accepted, because Russia is mad at NATO and going to send a message.

Put all the spin on it you want. Russia is engaged in pure imperialism right now. Normally your against imperialism, you even rail against imperialism that doesn't actually happen like NATO imperialism. Why the change of heart in this case? Why is this imperialism ok?

That said, let's look at your arguments and the framing. This is a world changing war right? I asked how because it's not. It might change Europe, but you like to point out that europe usnt the workd. It might change whos sitting at tge high stakes table for geopolitics, but that changes all the time. The Russians are going to escalate it, right? I pointed out that there's only one way to escalate and it's the way you swear can't happen because Russia promised to not use nukes.

There's the problem. You string words together and either don't know what they mean or are hoping the meaning gets lost in the wall of text word salad and you can claim they mean something else.

You don't post articles that support your point. You read a headline and post what you think is a gotcha that the actual article always undermines.

I treat your arguments as bad faith because you make arguments in bad faith. If they merited a charitable reading, I would read them charitably. That's on you and your years of bad faith arguments. I will continue to poke holes in your bulkshit as I see it happen.

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