A health care system dependent upon charity is not sustainable.
First of all, studies show the people who make the most charitable donations are the people who cannot afford to. Folks with low income tend to be most generous. Second of all, charity is inconsistent and therefore unreliable. Maybe move some of our federal tax dollars from paying people to kill citizens in the street and spend it on health care for everyone.
This is the stupidest take I've seen. Blaming conservatives and saying that it's because of our medical system that he couldn't afford treatment? Newsflash, if he had health insurance with a $5k deductible like most do, he would pay NOTHING! He either didn't have health insurance or a terrible plan. And if you like health plans in the UK better...F'N MOVE!!! You don't need to be here. But have fun waiting a year to see a Dr when you're vomiting blood or something worse.
Just keep thinking about how much money Israel needs and how much funding ice deserves. Then the lack of health insurance or social services will make that much more sense. /s
Apparently, the treatments they couldn't afford weren't covered by insurance because they were experimental alternative treatments, not regular old cancer treatments.
There *is* absolutely an issue with actors who rely on SAG insurance who get sick and can't work and therefore lose their insurance because they aren't getting enough work to keep their membership current. There are a lot of actors and directors who, when they make it, make sure their friends get cast in short-term roles to keep their SAG memberships and access to insurance. Angela Lansbury was one of them; one of the reasons you saw so many old-timey film and TV actors on her show was that they were her friends who hadn't worked in a long time and needed help to keep their SAG cards.
I hate spam and junk physical mail asking for money, with a deep and fiery loathing. I’m very close to the line of wanting to scream at them, “No matter who you are and how important the cause is, I will never ever ever give money to an unsolicited mailing, so fuck right off into the sun!!!” The trouble is, these are groups I would and have supported, on my own time and by my own choice. And I KNOW that mailings bring in funds for these groups, and it’s funds they need to stay alive. But I was thinking just recently how I’d happily pay more taxes so children were getting fed and dogs were getting cared for and cancer research was being funded, without those groups having to beg from me to stay alive.
So based on these comments it seems the insurance companies, Waltons, etc win. Instead of focusing on mandating that our government spend our resources actually taking care of our people, we have devolved into an ethical debate over individual choices, and turned this problem inward on ourselves. We cannot solve this unless we put this back on our representatives, not on each other. Yes we have political differences and make different choices, but the actual problem is the lack of care, how we got there is irrelevant to solving this issue.
The CalCare single-payer bill was re-introduced in CA yesterday, probably won't go anywhere this year due to circumstances but good to keep in front of people who widely support the concept. It's really the dumb legislators, and the Dems have the supermajority, but they still don't understand that this is a policy bill that does not, in fact cannot, implement single-payer until there is a bill passed to fund the program. Of course the GOP is against on principle.
I had what was then incurable breast cancer stage 3 less than 10 years ago. now there is a pill that can attack that kind so it is no longer a death sentence. . I spent over 100K fighting it in my specialist co pay fees and medication co pays/ one 6 k shot was over 1K in copay. I had radiation and co pay. I took the money out of my retirement pay and 401K savings. I was lucky I could afford it. and here I am today having actually survived to my doctors great amazement. I guess the news is that I still have some savings to live on and social security and medicare is not bankrupt yet. Did a major dent to my savings, but I don't go out as much since many of my friends have already died.
In the last 10 years we made amazing advances in cancer, but now with RFK seems like we are backsliding.
A reminder that the screening age for colon cancer has started at 45. Your doc might start you with a FIT test, but you can ask for a colonoscopy if you have any reason at all to do so, and probably get it covered.
Insurance would rather pay the $1000 to the provider for that procedure and nip those polyps early than pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars it'd cost for the treatment in 10 years.
Edit: This is also why I pay for a long term disability insurance plan through my current employer. In the event I became disabled and unable to work, I'm guaranteed at least 1/3 of my current salary for the rest of my life. Better than $0, anyway.
I’ve always had an interest in medicine and have often discussed various healthcare systems in several countries but specifically Canada and the US. Once those discussions concluded, not one person didn’t agree that the Canadian healthcare system is far surpasses that of the US. Here, in Canada, you’ll frequently hear people call our healthcare system “free” and it generally feels that way. While some procedures, medications, treatments, etc. come with a price, general healthcare doesn’t come directly from our pockets. Personally, I, as well as family and friends have spent considerable time admitted to hospital, not once have we been billed directly. To explain better how our healthcare system works, I offer the following from a Google search : “Healthcare in Canada is considered "free" because it is a publicly funded, universal system—known as Medicare—that provides essential medical services without direct charges to residents at the point of care. It is not actually free, however, as it is funded through federal and provincial/territorial taxes.” As mentioned above, this formula is what has allowed us to receive excellent healthcare, both extended and short-term without the worry and burden of being faced with an astronomical bill at the end of our stay. I have a great respect for our system. I, and the vast majority of people I know or have spoken with agree that our experiences were, on the whole very positive. On a few occasions I ran into issues due to having moved provinces and my specific medical file not being up to date and was told I would be billed. However, after speaking with doctors and explaining my case, which was, essentially not having much money at the time, each was waived, not because the issues were resolved but rather, our medical system is highly empathic and understanding. This wasn’t the case for a friend of mine , however, with similar concerns and he was faced with a bill but ultimately his was considerably reduced after speaking with his physician. I sincerely don’t intend to sound like I’m bragging and I’m in no way discrediting your healthcare workers (I needed minor medical care one time while I was visiting the US and have no complaints about the treatment I received) and apologise if I come off that way. I, and other Americans I’ve spoken with want the US healthcare system to run similarly to Canada or other countries that don’t bill directly. If the US healthcare system was built better to suit the average citizen and not just cater to the rich, It would enrich and save millions of lives. I’ve never understood why the US healthcare system hasn’t adapted similar policies considering a vast number of Americans cannot afford treatment. I find it unfair.
There's no question that Canadian (or EU) healthcare is superior to ours. I'll never have to worry about medical bankruptcy but I pay astronomical premiums for that peace of mind.
"Conservatives, especially those with a libertarian bent, like to tout the idea of charity and philanthropy being superior to tax collection when it comes to providing a social safety net — frequently insisting that if the government just didn’t take money from people, they would be more inclined to give it."
Civilized governments have rejected "Charity" in favor of actually meeting citizens needs..
In Australia, the churches give charitable collections TO THE Government to distribute because it is wiser on who needs it...
It's a fact that some people are getting very wealthy off the illnesses of others. In Ontario, Canada if healthcare actually cost this much to treat cancer of one person Ontario would be much more wealthy than it already is.
In situations like this I hate the flippant use of the phrase “a GoFundMe page was created” when a more accurate description would be “were reduced to begging for money on the internet.”
I get it. I’m splitting hairs but simply saying “a GoGundMe page” trivializes and mischaracterizes what the crappy US health care industry has reduced so many people to
A health care system dependent upon charity is not sustainable.
First of all, studies show the people who make the most charitable donations are the people who cannot afford to. Folks with low income tend to be most generous. Second of all, charity is inconsistent and therefore unreliable. Maybe move some of our federal tax dollars from paying people to kill citizens in the street and spend it on health care for everyone.
This is the stupidest take I've seen. Blaming conservatives and saying that it's because of our medical system that he couldn't afford treatment? Newsflash, if he had health insurance with a $5k deductible like most do, he would pay NOTHING! He either didn't have health insurance or a terrible plan. And if you like health plans in the UK better...F'N MOVE!!! You don't need to be here. But have fun waiting a year to see a Dr when you're vomiting blood or something worse.
Must be nice. I lost my job, home and dog with my cancer diagnosis. Living in my car now.
Hopefully I can find a pretty spot to sit and watch the sunrise before this thing overtakes me.
I love America's healthcare.
Just keep thinking about how much money Israel needs and how much funding ice deserves. Then the lack of health insurance or social services will make that much more sense. /s
Six kids and a $4.8 million, 36-acre ranch to "connect with nature" and “channel your ‘hippie cowboy’” ... sure, "just like us." https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/exclusive-james-van-der-beek-212738860.html
Yes, they bought it a month ago. This is the house she’s crying about losing. I need a grift.
She's MAHA.
Apparently, the treatments they couldn't afford weren't covered by insurance because they were experimental alternative treatments, not regular old cancer treatments.
There *is* absolutely an issue with actors who rely on SAG insurance who get sick and can't work and therefore lose their insurance because they aren't getting enough work to keep their membership current. There are a lot of actors and directors who, when they make it, make sure their friends get cast in short-term roles to keep their SAG memberships and access to insurance. Angela Lansbury was one of them; one of the reasons you saw so many old-timey film and TV actors on her show was that they were her friends who hadn't worked in a long time and needed help to keep their SAG cards.
I hate spam and junk physical mail asking for money, with a deep and fiery loathing. I’m very close to the line of wanting to scream at them, “No matter who you are and how important the cause is, I will never ever ever give money to an unsolicited mailing, so fuck right off into the sun!!!” The trouble is, these are groups I would and have supported, on my own time and by my own choice. And I KNOW that mailings bring in funds for these groups, and it’s funds they need to stay alive. But I was thinking just recently how I’d happily pay more taxes so children were getting fed and dogs were getting cared for and cancer research was being funded, without those groups having to beg from me to stay alive.
So based on these comments it seems the insurance companies, Waltons, etc win. Instead of focusing on mandating that our government spend our resources actually taking care of our people, we have devolved into an ethical debate over individual choices, and turned this problem inward on ourselves. We cannot solve this unless we put this back on our representatives, not on each other. Yes we have political differences and make different choices, but the actual problem is the lack of care, how we got there is irrelevant to solving this issue.
The CalCare single-payer bill was re-introduced in CA yesterday, probably won't go anywhere this year due to circumstances but good to keep in front of people who widely support the concept. It's really the dumb legislators, and the Dems have the supermajority, but they still don't understand that this is a policy bill that does not, in fact cannot, implement single-payer until there is a bill passed to fund the program. Of course the GOP is against on principle.
I had what was then incurable breast cancer stage 3 less than 10 years ago. now there is a pill that can attack that kind so it is no longer a death sentence. . I spent over 100K fighting it in my specialist co pay fees and medication co pays/ one 6 k shot was over 1K in copay. I had radiation and co pay. I took the money out of my retirement pay and 401K savings. I was lucky I could afford it. and here I am today having actually survived to my doctors great amazement. I guess the news is that I still have some savings to live on and social security and medicare is not bankrupt yet. Did a major dent to my savings, but I don't go out as much since many of my friends have already died.
In the last 10 years we made amazing advances in cancer, but now with RFK seems like we are backsliding.
A reminder that the screening age for colon cancer has started at 45. Your doc might start you with a FIT test, but you can ask for a colonoscopy if you have any reason at all to do so, and probably get it covered.
Insurance would rather pay the $1000 to the provider for that procedure and nip those polyps early than pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars it'd cost for the treatment in 10 years.
Edit: This is also why I pay for a long term disability insurance plan through my current employer. In the event I became disabled and unable to work, I'm guaranteed at least 1/3 of my current salary for the rest of my life. Better than $0, anyway.
https://theconversation.com/colorectal-cancer-is-increasing-among-young-people-as-james-van-der-beeks-death-reminds-us-cancer-experts-explain-ways-to-decrease-your-risk-275886
I’ve always had an interest in medicine and have often discussed various healthcare systems in several countries but specifically Canada and the US. Once those discussions concluded, not one person didn’t agree that the Canadian healthcare system is far surpasses that of the US. Here, in Canada, you’ll frequently hear people call our healthcare system “free” and it generally feels that way. While some procedures, medications, treatments, etc. come with a price, general healthcare doesn’t come directly from our pockets. Personally, I, as well as family and friends have spent considerable time admitted to hospital, not once have we been billed directly. To explain better how our healthcare system works, I offer the following from a Google search : “Healthcare in Canada is considered "free" because it is a publicly funded, universal system—known as Medicare—that provides essential medical services without direct charges to residents at the point of care. It is not actually free, however, as it is funded through federal and provincial/territorial taxes.” As mentioned above, this formula is what has allowed us to receive excellent healthcare, both extended and short-term without the worry and burden of being faced with an astronomical bill at the end of our stay. I have a great respect for our system. I, and the vast majority of people I know or have spoken with agree that our experiences were, on the whole very positive. On a few occasions I ran into issues due to having moved provinces and my specific medical file not being up to date and was told I would be billed. However, after speaking with doctors and explaining my case, which was, essentially not having much money at the time, each was waived, not because the issues were resolved but rather, our medical system is highly empathic and understanding. This wasn’t the case for a friend of mine , however, with similar concerns and he was faced with a bill but ultimately his was considerably reduced after speaking with his physician. I sincerely don’t intend to sound like I’m bragging and I’m in no way discrediting your healthcare workers (I needed minor medical care one time while I was visiting the US and have no complaints about the treatment I received) and apologise if I come off that way. I, and other Americans I’ve spoken with want the US healthcare system to run similarly to Canada or other countries that don’t bill directly. If the US healthcare system was built better to suit the average citizen and not just cater to the rich, It would enrich and save millions of lives. I’ve never understood why the US healthcare system hasn’t adapted similar policies considering a vast number of Americans cannot afford treatment. I find it unfair.
Canada - like most developed nations - understood that the best risk pool in healthcare is "everybody".
There's no question that Canadian (or EU) healthcare is superior to ours. I'll never have to worry about medical bankruptcy but I pay astronomical premiums for that peace of mind.
"Conservatives, especially those with a libertarian bent, like to tout the idea of charity and philanthropy being superior to tax collection when it comes to providing a social safety net — frequently insisting that if the government just didn’t take money from people, they would be more inclined to give it."
Civilized governments have rejected "Charity" in favor of actually meeting citizens needs..
In Australia, the churches give charitable collections TO THE Government to distribute because it is wiser on who needs it...
As long as hair furor isn't the middleman, it's probably fine.
It's a fact that some people are getting very wealthy off the illnesses of others. In Ontario, Canada if healthcare actually cost this much to treat cancer of one person Ontario would be much more wealthy than it already is.
Heartbreaking.
In situations like this I hate the flippant use of the phrase “a GoFundMe page was created” when a more accurate description would be “were reduced to begging for money on the internet.”
I get it. I’m splitting hairs but simply saying “a GoGundMe page” trivializes and mischaracterizes what the crappy US health care industry has reduced so many people to
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