Polio was the age cohort just before mine. I had no friends who caught it, but the husband of an ex's sister is still disabled from it. Our polio vaccine was administered at school, on a lump of sugar (no wonder I was drawn to the pleasures of LSD). I was born before MMR vaccines and it's only because my mother was a nurses' aide stateside during WWII that measles did not take my life. It fucked up my teeth forever, and fortunately I did not go blind. So-called "childhood" diseases used to take far too many of us, and are now poised to do so again.
Just saw the dr. and he is recommending a Tetanus shot, because it has Pertussis and he is concerned that with so many parents not vaccinating their kids Whooping Cough will make a big comeback. It already is. Jesus wept.
I got pertussis in 2002. I even went to the doc because it felt "different". No diagnosis, but 4 weeks in bed and 10 months of coughing fits kind of confirmed it. Confectioners sugar can still trip a coughing fit.
'Merika's gone 'round the bend. Whackos rule the roost. Yes, I am confused about why people are like this, but very clear on the fact that reality exists, and these guys do not live in it.
Conservatives get to construct their own reality. Karl Rove explained that back during the junta of Bush the Idiot. Any connection between their "reality" and actual reality is coincidental.
// Should you like to put yourself up for a job where you just might be able to contract polio, the measles, or whooping cough from one of your co-workers’ unvaccinated kids, you can take it right here. //
Apparently they got tired of people fooling around with it, because now it requires a user name and password.
Autism rates skyrocketed under Biden. It’s a disgrace what’s happening. None of the diseases respect us anymore. A woman at a rally in FL came up to me and said her son started feeling autistic after seeing Joe Biden on TV. He never felt autistic during my term, not once.
We are going to treat diseases like Polio and Measles like dictators. We are going to compromise with them, treat them very fairly and they will vanish one day, like that. It will be like a miracle. Like there was a magic shot you could take and soon polio would be eradicated. But we will do it science-free with faith, patriotism, our own research and fracking!
I wish I could believe that this was written by someone with a very clever sense of humor, but it is so perfectly atuned to Dear Leader's rants I have to assume he has, in fact, become a Wonketter. Rebecca, you may want to tighten up the eligibility rules a bit.
We get to live with (well, the vaccinated ones do) this insanity because of vaccines' success in preventing deadly illnesses. Too many people have no memory of the before times. How many children died painfully and needlessly? How many survived, but were permanently disabled or disfigured because there was nothing to prevent the illness? The survivors were considered the 'lucky ones'. Bobby Brainworm can deny being anti-vax all he wants, but his history says otherwise. His idea of safe vaccines is 100% safe, and he knows that is an unobtainable goal, but it gives him an altruistic lie to hide behind. He's only thinking of the children. Feckless prick.
Anybody else remember a quarantine sign posted on the front porch of a house by the county health department for scarlet fever, rheumatic fever, or something like that? I do. Not collecting for the paper at that house this week!
The polio vaccine vs. placebo trial will not happen because who the fuck will want to risk being in the control arm? Volunteers will be thin on the ground, no matter which country you set it in.
There isn't an Institutional Review Board in the world that would accept a vaccine vs. saline placebo trial for a vaccine that is on the market. That's what Phase 3 trials are for -- BEFORE they go on the market.
Polio vaccine uptake is over 75% in most Central and South American countries (Venezuela being a notable exception). So there's a better than even chance that any migrant they pick up will have had the polio vaccine.
Probably noted already, but McConnell appears to care about polio. Having had it as a child.
Is this what it takes to get Republicans to care about an issue? Personal experience or impact? Needz new study: Why Republicans don't recognize the word empathy.
I'm assuming Moscow Mitch will actually vote against Robert "Worm" Kennedy. But even this assumption is foolish. He's a Republican. Power first.
They'd round up an handful and make horrible examples of them. the only way it would work is if all involved pledged solidarity. Agreeing to pick up the costs for the handful they round up. Fat chance!
"Much of Mr. Siri’s work — including the polio petition filed in 2022 — has been on behalf of the Informed Consent Action Network"
Mr Siri, and those fine folk at Informed Consent Action Network, only want what's best for all of us, from the youngest to the oldest:
"In a medical world manipulated by advertising and financial interests, true information is hard to find and often harder to understand. Our goal is to put the power of scientifically researched health information in your hands and to be bold and transparent in doing so" https://icandecide.org/
In all actuality, though, ICAN has at least one thing right, and half of another. Medical advertising -- meds since doctors don't advertise -- has screwed the American people. Big Pharma spends so much money on ads in the US, especially for diseases that affect an extremely small minority, prescription prices here has become exorbitant -- even unaffordable to some on fixed incomes. It's interesting to note that there are only two countries that allow prescription advertising:
"The promotion of prescription drugs to the public (“direct to consumer advertising”) is currently used only in the United States and New Zealand." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1976477/
Removing the expense for ads on TV, in print magazines and papers, and online should lead to making most meds actually affordable.
The partial: "the power of scientifically researched health information in your hands[.]" This would be truthful if ICAN actually promoted scientific research rather than offering up cherrypicked partisan research that fits their agenda.
(As an aside: every commercial says to ask your healthcare professional if drug X is right for you. Personally, I wouldn't continue to be a patient of a doctor who didn't know if a drug was suitable for one's illness. It is not a patient's responsibility to suggest to their doctor that this or that med should work.)
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“we're going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it.”
* To the Fulvous Flatulence *everything* he doesn't approve of or like is happening at a rate that "nobody ever believed possible.";
* The trend for Autism has been moving upward for much longer period of time than either the Pumpkin Pestilence or Junior implies. In 2000 the number was 1:150 (children born in 1992), in 2020 (born in 2012) the number was 1:36 (via https://www.cdc.gov/autism/data-research/index.html
* The something causing the increase cannot be laid at the feet of vaccines, as I noted, the numbers have been increasing for a long time now. What is relatively new that could be causing the rather dramatic increase in twenty years is the high pollution levels and manufacturers dumping toxic waste near aquifers that are on the increase.
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"Pakistan, where polio is still endemic, and bring some back with them as a souvenir."
"My parents went to Pakistan, and the only thing they brought me was this lousy t-shirt."
Polio was the age cohort just before mine. I had no friends who caught it, but the husband of an ex's sister is still disabled from it. Our polio vaccine was administered at school, on a lump of sugar (no wonder I was drawn to the pleasures of LSD). I was born before MMR vaccines and it's only because my mother was a nurses' aide stateside during WWII that measles did not take my life. It fucked up my teeth forever, and fortunately I did not go blind. So-called "childhood" diseases used to take far too many of us, and are now poised to do so again.
They need to send RFK Jr. to a mental institution for the rest of his natural life. He is a fucking nut job.
The “olds” will get this: MAKE THE MARCH OF DIMES GREAT AGAIN
Just saw the dr. and he is recommending a Tetanus shot, because it has Pertussis and he is concerned that with so many parents not vaccinating their kids Whooping Cough will make a big comeback. It already is. Jesus wept.
I got pertussis in 2002. I even went to the doc because it felt "different". No diagnosis, but 4 weeks in bed and 10 months of coughing fits kind of confirmed it. Confectioners sugar can still trip a coughing fit.
Goddamn anti-vaxxers.
I think Z is next in Tesla world. LUNG-Z? Or, just cooler: LUNGZ?
'Merika's gone 'round the bend. Whackos rule the roost. Yes, I am confused about why people are like this, but very clear on the fact that reality exists, and these guys do not live in it.
Conservatives get to construct their own reality. Karl Rove explained that back during the junta of Bush the Idiot. Any connection between their "reality" and actual reality is coincidental.
Coffee first, then words
FDR wants the first word on this.
// Should you like to put yourself up for a job where you just might be able to contract polio, the measles, or whooping cough from one of your co-workers’ unvaccinated kids, you can take it right here. //
Apparently they got tired of people fooling around with it, because now it requires a user name and password.
Autism rates skyrocketed under Biden. It’s a disgrace what’s happening. None of the diseases respect us anymore. A woman at a rally in FL came up to me and said her son started feeling autistic after seeing Joe Biden on TV. He never felt autistic during my term, not once.
We are going to treat diseases like Polio and Measles like dictators. We are going to compromise with them, treat them very fairly and they will vanish one day, like that. It will be like a miracle. Like there was a magic shot you could take and soon polio would be eradicated. But we will do it science-free with faith, patriotism, our own research and fracking!
I wish I could believe that this was written by someone with a very clever sense of humor, but it is so perfectly atuned to Dear Leader's rants I have to assume he has, in fact, become a Wonketter. Rebecca, you may want to tighten up the eligibility rules a bit.
If yer out of horse medicine, take a tax cut. Cures all!
"Hey Siri, did you get the polio vaccine when you were a kid?"
"Yes, my parents made me."
"Can you walk and breathe?"
"Yes."
"THEN FUCK OFF!"
We get to live with (well, the vaccinated ones do) this insanity because of vaccines' success in preventing deadly illnesses. Too many people have no memory of the before times. How many children died painfully and needlessly? How many survived, but were permanently disabled or disfigured because there was nothing to prevent the illness? The survivors were considered the 'lucky ones'. Bobby Brainworm can deny being anti-vax all he wants, but his history says otherwise. His idea of safe vaccines is 100% safe, and he knows that is an unobtainable goal, but it gives him an altruistic lie to hide behind. He's only thinking of the children. Feckless prick.
Anybody else remember a quarantine sign posted on the front porch of a house by the county health department for scarlet fever, rheumatic fever, or something like that? I do. Not collecting for the paper at that house this week!
The polio vaccine vs. placebo trial will not happen because who the fuck will want to risk being in the control arm? Volunteers will be thin on the ground, no matter which country you set it in.
Such a trial is forbidden in all civilized countries. At the moment, we are still one of them...
There isn't an Institutional Review Board in the world that would accept a vaccine vs. saline placebo trial for a vaccine that is on the market. That's what Phase 3 trials are for -- BEFORE they go on the market.
Vaccine deniers. You just have to guarantee they’ll be in the placebo group.
They'll kidnap people if they can.
Migrants, perhaps.
People keep underestimating these monsters.
Polio vaccine uptake is over 75% in most Central and South American countries (Venezuela being a notable exception). So there's a better than even chance that any migrant they pick up will have had the polio vaccine.
After all, who remembers the Tuskegee study?
you
me
raises hand
We know the vaccine works.
Probably noted already, but McConnell appears to care about polio. Having had it as a child.
Is this what it takes to get Republicans to care about an issue? Personal experience or impact? Needz new study: Why Republicans don't recognize the word empathy.
I'm assuming Moscow Mitch will actually vote against Robert "Worm" Kennedy. But even this assumption is foolish. He's a Republican. Power first.
"Is this what it takes to get Republicans to care about an issue?"
Where have you been? If they ain't had it, it ain't a thing. Pssh. Simple.
Make Amerikka crippled again!
So, what do you suppose would happen if a bunch of us just decided not to pay federal income taxes for the next four years?
They'd round up an handful and make horrible examples of them. the only way it would work is if all involved pledged solidarity. Agreeing to pick up the costs for the handful they round up. Fat chance!
Not just one isolated Randy Weaver, mind you, but a few million of us.
First you have to get all those people to agree
As well as to understand they'd risk prosecution under Donald's IRS
Can't these wankers just go spank the carrot in the corner or MUST they spend their time on earth trying to harm others.
"Earth". Upper case. Credit where it's due.
Party of death.
This is my favourite comment of the week , on any platform. Thank you
"Much of Mr. Siri’s work — including the polio petition filed in 2022 — has been on behalf of the Informed Consent Action Network"
Mr Siri, and those fine folk at Informed Consent Action Network, only want what's best for all of us, from the youngest to the oldest:
"In a medical world manipulated by advertising and financial interests, true information is hard to find and often harder to understand. Our goal is to put the power of scientifically researched health information in your hands and to be bold and transparent in doing so" https://icandecide.org/
In all actuality, though, ICAN has at least one thing right, and half of another. Medical advertising -- meds since doctors don't advertise -- has screwed the American people. Big Pharma spends so much money on ads in the US, especially for diseases that affect an extremely small minority, prescription prices here has become exorbitant -- even unaffordable to some on fixed incomes. It's interesting to note that there are only two countries that allow prescription advertising:
"The promotion of prescription drugs to the public (“direct to consumer advertising”) is currently used only in the United States and New Zealand." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1976477/
Removing the expense for ads on TV, in print magazines and papers, and online should lead to making most meds actually affordable.
The partial: "the power of scientifically researched health information in your hands[.]" This would be truthful if ICAN actually promoted scientific research rather than offering up cherrypicked partisan research that fits their agenda.
(As an aside: every commercial says to ask your healthcare professional if drug X is right for you. Personally, I wouldn't continue to be a patient of a doctor who didn't know if a drug was suitable for one's illness. It is not a patient's responsibility to suggest to their doctor that this or that med should work.)
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“we're going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it.”
* To the Fulvous Flatulence *everything* he doesn't approve of or like is happening at a rate that "nobody ever believed possible.";
* The trend for Autism has been moving upward for much longer period of time than either the Pumpkin Pestilence or Junior implies. In 2000 the number was 1:150 (children born in 1992), in 2020 (born in 2012) the number was 1:36 (via https://www.cdc.gov/autism/data-research/index.html
* The something causing the increase cannot be laid at the feet of vaccines, as I noted, the numbers have been increasing for a long time now. What is relatively new that could be causing the rather dramatic increase in twenty years is the high pollution levels and manufacturers dumping toxic waste near aquifers that are on the increase.
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"Pakistan, where polio is still endemic, and bring some back with them as a souvenir."
"My parents went to Pakistan, and the only thing they brought me was this lousy t-shirt."
fnord
Ask your doctor if getting medical advice from the TV is right for you
It's no coincidence that drug ads on television started after cigarette ads were banned. the networks needed to replace that. revenue