Hard-hitting journalism. Steve Doocy, Brian Kilmeade and Ainsley Earhardt, the goons who inhabit the idiot couch on "Fox & Friends," are doing important journalism. Thursday morning was no different, as they invited Suzanne Venker (niece of Dead Phyllis Schlafly
Thank you. It helps to know that women who are anti-women often are doing it from a place of fear that they could've not subscribed to BS gender roles, but did, so dammit, it must be the morally right thing to do or everything I know is a lie. Ok, a little. I still yelled so loud when I read the original piece on this because come ON. ;)
SO sorry, that is terrible. I am glad I am old (most of the time) because I don't have to deal with that shit. I suppose of the cops or someone confronted your stalker he would be shocked that his actions were alarming to you. I would make you a drink and join you also too, if you were close by. Also I can be a scary old lady so I wouldn't mind scaring some dumb ass kids. You aren't in Washington state are you? I am heading back home, but just for 10 days.
I tried to have a conversation with a guy posting on the article about the "Proud Boys" who claimed guys can't find any girls who are acceptable for them. I asked him some questions, he answered part of it but ignored the rest. When I replied to that he never responded. I am not sure why but seems like a lot of teenage guys (and many don't learn later) that females are actual people not too unlike themselves. I encouraged him to get to know people of the opposite sex as friends first and see what develops from there. They really just want someone to wait on them for sex and sammiches for reals. And to troll. When I was in college and slightly older than the rest of the college people I started talking to a guy and somehow we got onto a conversation where he said he was told that when a girl says no she means maybe and when she says maybe she means yes. I quite firmly told him that it was possible that might be true for some people but you better just make sure the answer turns into an actual yes before you do anything or it is legally rape no matter what the idiots you know tell you. I think he actually appreciated that because he seemed uncomfortable (hence bringing it up). My daughter met a guy on match.com and they have been together for a couple of years. The first year they broke up a million times because I think he had a fear of commitment but the last time she said that was it and the last year no more breaking up. I like him and he has a good job too(!) although he is crap at saving money but he is working on it. The other 'kid' who is not a kid any longer is trans male which has just been the last 18 months or so. He has social anxiety and has never worked for anyone but us but our company closed down so he needs to figure out some kind of job but doesn't seem to be trying. He does have a counselor to talk to which is good and a good group of friends that have been the same group for many years. He won't go to any trans support groups though which I think would help with dealing with being out in the general public. Plus of course the more people you know the better chance of networking and finding a job. Oh well, everybody has issues of some kind or another!Anyway, be careful, if you think the ex-guys are dangerous at all get some help. Can't remember if you said how long the stalking has been going on but if it goes on too long or escalates you need to report him and do what you can to remove yourself from the situation. Move if you can, stay off social media for a while, change your cell number etc.Try to stay away from the trolls, find something more fun to do on a Friday night! are posters for the next protest?You can talk to me any time you need a nonjudgmental mom opinion : )
Hi Susiq, Thanks for your response.For a long time I thought that this man had a real, legitimate concern about privacy via contacting me through normal channels. Then I realized I was making excuses for his head games. He showed interest years ago, I responded with definite interest ( was pretty sure he had separated from his wife at the time. ) So then his wife is yelling things up at my window and I'd never even met with him for date. Not once. I stayed away. I didn't want to be a home wrecker. I shared his infatuated feelings tho', he'd post love letters online, I'd respond, he wouldn't. Cat and mouse, it's called " catfishing, " online.He's a very gifted writer and that impressed me.I think he wanted to rescue me.He may feel he's in love, but I don't think that's what love is.I don't know what it is anymore, but I'm exhausted by it. Very convoluted events.I'll take the real over the fantasy.This life no easy.Thanks for sharing abt.your kids.Being out as Trans must be so challenging. Maybe your son feels that no one will hire him locally. There's real, widespread descrimination against them. People are so afraid of what is different. Myself included.- Take Care-
One delightful gentleman I encountered at the Women's March had a t-shirt that indicated that women belong in the kitchen, so I guess he only wanted the last of those.
He did not look altogether comfy when I reminded him that, with his attitude, he might not want women to go anywhere near his food unless he enjoys the taste of spit or poison.
I didn't know she was still alive until I started hanging out at Dispatches from the Culture Wars. Then she died, and during these bleak times, many is the day that I can only claw my way out of despair by chanting, "it's a good day, Phyllis Schlafly is still dead" over and over.
If it ever makes you nervous that he is going too far please contact somebody about it. Hopefully soon he will move on to someone or something else. He isn't in love with you-anyone who loves you wants what is best for you. Perhaps you were flattered by his attention and gifted writing but you obviously do not love him or want him in your life.I know it is hard for my son but he is going to have figure out something soon. All I have now is moral support, we don't have any money for financial support any more. Somehow it will work out-for better or worse.Hang in there!
Thanks. True, I was flattered by the attention. If he truly wanted what's best for me he wouldn't have played so many games.Maybe your Son will have to move to an area that's more accepting of who he is to find work. A Trans person came intoa restaurant I worked at and the owner asked " Why did you even give her an application ? "Yet in Boston nowadays I see many trans people working...
We are in the Seattle/Tacoma area so it is really pretty good for trans people. Everyone has really been pretty nice, older people are surprised but younger people just go eh, whatever. It is more in his mind and he will have to deal with that. He wouldn't do well working with the public but I have found jobs on craigslist that would probably be pretty good for him and he won't even check them out. Some people really like drama, I used to work with someone who was stalking an ex-boyfriend. She would tell stories about it but make them sound funny and they were kind of funny but for sure nobody encouraged her, we would kind of tell her to get over it already. Besides that everything was always some drama or another but I don't know if she would be the type to get violent or not. She had a slew loose, that's for sure. Has that guy ever been violent? Or just clingy/needy/asshole-y?
No. He once said " I'll beat you black and blue, " under my window. He could've been talking about some one else, right ? Not the same as doing. I've heard rumors of his incredible kindness and generosity as well... Like everyone, a mix of traits. Sad to say, this has caused many rifts in the community. I feel self-conscious. But mostly, I want an end to the drama.I'm struggling w/ many things and a relationship based on a start like that isn't what I want.I mostly get incredibly annoyed.My responding to his love letters - mistake.My leaving gifts and notes, mistake.I feel I encouraged his attention.Lied to myself about it.Tried to make a gold purse out of a sow's ear.
Oh, I have. Waltham PD gave me really hard time abt. It. Basically said " I was imagining it " - actually called an ambulance, as " I was making no sense and strongly suggested that I get a Psych evaluation , " of course I refused and called him out on it. Not sure what century he was from. He had escalated the situation by his refusing to accept what I said, calling an ambulance, and asking me what medications I was on. If I was in therapy, saw a psychiatrist and could he have their names ? Just for the record. Just for the record, when anyone reports abuse, calling them crazy is biased. I walked out shaking. He followed me, apologized, and insisted I finish the report. Three young men hanging out in front of the street witnessing the interaction called out to me, " GET A JOB !!!!! " Not sure how they knew who I was, my employment status, or anything else about me. I can only assume they were creepy PEEPING Toms, who are fucking w/my life at this point.I wore them down. Verbal skillz, innit. As in stood right up and advocated for myself like Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting.Then they described the process I would need to take. Had to literally argue to be listened to. Basically ask the cop why he was refuting what I was saying. I appreciated his apology, but his method of interrogating me initially was really shitty. Shouldn't have happened at all. The first cop I spoke with kept slapping his notebook against his hand, suggesting I needed to be spanked for making a report in the first place. I told him to stop and asked to speak to a female officer. Refused to keep talking to him. And they wonder why women don't report rape or abuse to Police ?
Not willing to request restraining order, from what I've gleaned from the media, in many cases makes situation much worse.I live in a VERY busy area, parking lot across from my street. I can't tell him not to eat out in the area, etc. I no longer want to talk to him. There's nothing to say. Isolation makes women accept behavior that they normally wouldn't.
Well crap. Are you in a position to move away from there? I am really good at giving advice to others and never know what to do myself. I went to a counselor and told her I "couldn't" get out of the situation I was in and she asked why not. ( It was job-related) I gave her all the reasons and she said so what? What if you just did it anyway? So it did make me realize I was allowing those reasons to change what I was doing and wanted to do. You try to determine where you want to be/what you want to accomplish and the what are the steps you need to take to get there. Once I realized I was in charge of my own life and made a plan I felt so much better. Then as time went on I adjusted my plan but all along the way it was still my plan and what I wanted for myself. So maybe think about it that way, or if you were giving advice to someone else in that situation, what would you tell them?And if you can (hard when people are not stable) think about what his motivation is at this point. If he is getting off on harassing you act like it doesn't bother you. As long as that doesn't escalate the situation. If you just need a break come down and visit me in Mexico-quiet little town, everyone is really nice. Even the RWNJs, though maybe because they are outnumbered.
Thank you. It helps to know that women who are anti-women often are doing it from a place of fear that they could've not subscribed to BS gender roles, but did, so dammit, it must be the morally right thing to do or everything I know is a lie. Ok, a little. I still yelled so loud when I read the original piece on this because come ON. ;)
SO sorry, that is terrible. I am glad I am old (most of the time) because I don't have to deal with that shit. I suppose of the cops or someone confronted your stalker he would be shocked that his actions were alarming to you. I would make you a drink and join you also too, if you were close by. Also I can be a scary old lady so I wouldn't mind scaring some dumb ass kids. You aren't in Washington state are you? I am heading back home, but just for 10 days.
You got a fine man there :)
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I tried to have a conversation with a guy posting on the article about the "Proud Boys" who claimed guys can't find any girls who are acceptable for them. I asked him some questions, he answered part of it but ignored the rest. When I replied to that he never responded. I am not sure why but seems like a lot of teenage guys (and many don't learn later) that females are actual people not too unlike themselves. I encouraged him to get to know people of the opposite sex as friends first and see what develops from there. They really just want someone to wait on them for sex and sammiches for reals. And to troll. When I was in college and slightly older than the rest of the college people I started talking to a guy and somehow we got onto a conversation where he said he was told that when a girl says no she means maybe and when she says maybe she means yes. I quite firmly told him that it was possible that might be true for some people but you better just make sure the answer turns into an actual yes before you do anything or it is legally rape no matter what the idiots you know tell you. I think he actually appreciated that because he seemed uncomfortable (hence bringing it up). My daughter met a guy on match.com and they have been together for a couple of years. The first year they broke up a million times because I think he had a fear of commitment but the last time she said that was it and the last year no more breaking up. I like him and he has a good job too(!) although he is crap at saving money but he is working on it. The other 'kid' who is not a kid any longer is trans male which has just been the last 18 months or so. He has social anxiety and has never worked for anyone but us but our company closed down so he needs to figure out some kind of job but doesn't seem to be trying. He does have a counselor to talk to which is good and a good group of friends that have been the same group for many years. He won't go to any trans support groups though which I think would help with dealing with being out in the general public. Plus of course the more people you know the better chance of networking and finding a job. Oh well, everybody has issues of some kind or another!Anyway, be careful, if you think the ex-guys are dangerous at all get some help. Can't remember if you said how long the stalking has been going on but if it goes on too long or escalates you need to report him and do what you can to remove yourself from the situation. Move if you can, stay off social media for a while, change your cell number etc.Try to stay away from the trolls, find something more fun to do on a Friday night! are posters for the next protest?You can talk to me any time you need a nonjudgmental mom opinion : )
Hi Susiq, Thanks for your response.For a long time I thought that this man had a real, legitimate concern about privacy via contacting me through normal channels. Then I realized I was making excuses for his head games. He showed interest years ago, I responded with definite interest ( was pretty sure he had separated from his wife at the time. ) So then his wife is yelling things up at my window and I'd never even met with him for date. Not once. I stayed away. I didn't want to be a home wrecker. I shared his infatuated feelings tho', he'd post love letters online, I'd respond, he wouldn't. Cat and mouse, it's called " catfishing, " online.He's a very gifted writer and that impressed me.I think he wanted to rescue me.He may feel he's in love, but I don't think that's what love is.I don't know what it is anymore, but I'm exhausted by it. Very convoluted events.I'll take the real over the fantasy.This life no easy.Thanks for sharing abt.your kids.Being out as Trans must be so challenging. Maybe your son feels that no one will hire him locally. There's real, widespread descrimination against them. People are so afraid of what is different. Myself included.- Take Care-
Funny! >^o.o^<
And lunch sammiches.
One delightful gentleman I encountered at the Women's March had a t-shirt that indicated that women belong in the kitchen, so I guess he only wanted the last of those.
He did not look altogether comfy when I reminded him that, with his attitude, he might not want women to go anywhere near his food unless he enjoys the taste of spit or poison.
I didn't know she was still alive until I started hanging out at Dispatches from the Culture Wars. Then she died, and during these bleak times, many is the day that I can only claw my way out of despair by chanting, "it's a good day, Phyllis Schlafly is still dead" over and over.
If it ever makes you nervous that he is going too far please contact somebody about it. Hopefully soon he will move on to someone or something else. He isn't in love with you-anyone who loves you wants what is best for you. Perhaps you were flattered by his attention and gifted writing but you obviously do not love him or want him in your life.I know it is hard for my son but he is going to have figure out something soon. All I have now is moral support, we don't have any money for financial support any more. Somehow it will work out-for better or worse.Hang in there!
Thanks. True, I was flattered by the attention. If he truly wanted what's best for me he wouldn't have played so many games.Maybe your Son will have to move to an area that's more accepting of who he is to find work. A Trans person came intoa restaurant I worked at and the owner asked " Why did you even give her an application ? "Yet in Boston nowadays I see many trans people working...
We are in the Seattle/Tacoma area so it is really pretty good for trans people. Everyone has really been pretty nice, older people are surprised but younger people just go eh, whatever. It is more in his mind and he will have to deal with that. He wouldn't do well working with the public but I have found jobs on craigslist that would probably be pretty good for him and he won't even check them out. Some people really like drama, I used to work with someone who was stalking an ex-boyfriend. She would tell stories about it but make them sound funny and they were kind of funny but for sure nobody encouraged her, we would kind of tell her to get over it already. Besides that everything was always some drama or another but I don't know if she would be the type to get violent or not. She had a slew loose, that's for sure. Has that guy ever been violent? Or just clingy/needy/asshole-y?
No. He once said " I'll beat you black and blue, " under my window. He could've been talking about some one else, right ? Not the same as doing. I've heard rumors of his incredible kindness and generosity as well... Like everyone, a mix of traits. Sad to say, this has caused many rifts in the community. I feel self-conscious. But mostly, I want an end to the drama.I'm struggling w/ many things and a relationship based on a start like that isn't what I want.I mostly get incredibly annoyed.My responding to his love letters - mistake.My leaving gifts and notes, mistake.I feel I encouraged his attention.Lied to myself about it.Tried to make a gold purse out of a sow's ear.
Oh, I have. Waltham PD gave me really hard time abt. It. Basically said " I was imagining it " - actually called an ambulance, as " I was making no sense and strongly suggested that I get a Psych evaluation , " of course I refused and called him out on it. Not sure what century he was from. He had escalated the situation by his refusing to accept what I said, calling an ambulance, and asking me what medications I was on. If I was in therapy, saw a psychiatrist and could he have their names ? Just for the record. Just for the record, when anyone reports abuse, calling them crazy is biased. I walked out shaking. He followed me, apologized, and insisted I finish the report. Three young men hanging out in front of the street witnessing the interaction called out to me, " GET A JOB !!!!! " Not sure how they knew who I was, my employment status, or anything else about me. I can only assume they were creepy PEEPING Toms, who are fucking w/my life at this point.I wore them down. Verbal skillz, innit. As in stood right up and advocated for myself like Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting.Then they described the process I would need to take. Had to literally argue to be listened to. Basically ask the cop why he was refuting what I was saying. I appreciated his apology, but his method of interrogating me initially was really shitty. Shouldn't have happened at all. The first cop I spoke with kept slapping his notebook against his hand, suggesting I needed to be spanked for making a report in the first place. I told him to stop and asked to speak to a female officer. Refused to keep talking to him. And they wonder why women don't report rape or abuse to Police ?
Not willing to request restraining order, from what I've gleaned from the media, in many cases makes situation much worse.I live in a VERY busy area, parking lot across from my street. I can't tell him not to eat out in the area, etc. I no longer want to talk to him. There's nothing to say. Isolation makes women accept behavior that they normally wouldn't.
Well crap. Are you in a position to move away from there? I am really good at giving advice to others and never know what to do myself. I went to a counselor and told her I "couldn't" get out of the situation I was in and she asked why not. ( It was job-related) I gave her all the reasons and she said so what? What if you just did it anyway? So it did make me realize I was allowing those reasons to change what I was doing and wanted to do. You try to determine where you want to be/what you want to accomplish and the what are the steps you need to take to get there. Once I realized I was in charge of my own life and made a plan I felt so much better. Then as time went on I adjusted my plan but all along the way it was still my plan and what I wanted for myself. So maybe think about it that way, or if you were giving advice to someone else in that situation, what would you tell them?And if you can (hard when people are not stable) think about what his motivation is at this point. If he is getting off on harassing you act like it doesn't bother you. As long as that doesn't escalate the situation. If you just need a break come down and visit me in Mexico-quiet little town, everyone is really nice. Even the RWNJs, though maybe because they are outnumbered.