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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Robyn. I've been working with HIV positive adults in The South Bronx for almost five years. When I first read this story yesterday during lunch at my desk, the first thought about the HIV positive woman was, "How did they get away with only $75,000?" The answer of course is that she's in Mississippi.

Our pied-à-nuage is in a very rural piece of NY. TSC has lost two more of its customers. Fortunately, there are other stores nearby that sell everything we would have bought from them.

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

We used to have ferrets, and TSC was a regular errand for wood pellets that was used in the litter boxes. They had the best prices.

Glad we don't have ferrets anymore. It means I won't have to go looking for a better source of wood pellets.

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C Scott's avatar

What were seeing now is Newtons Third Law in action.

And it's leading to separating us even further, into smaller and smaller boxes.

But yet we, as a collective, refuse to see what we are doing to ourselves because we're too damn blinded by tribalism.

So, indeed, keep spinning stories like this, embolden the divide further for the sake of clicks, shares and likes. Stories like this are absolutely no different than the hate filled regurgitated literary bile than that of Info Wars, et al. Just the opposite side of the same coin.

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insolenthedgehog's avatar

Dude, the article is quoting THEIR OWN WORDS. That is the OPPOSITE of what InfoWars, et al does. Also, why the hell are you advocating that we disarm?

Oh yeah, because Wonkette is advocating on behalf of people like me - excuse me, engaging in "iDeNTiTY pOLiTiCs" instead of being a good little class warrior and only a good little class warrior. Or you're just an annoying little concern troll.

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C Scott's avatar

Thanks! I haven't had a good chuckle like this in a while. You are just proving the point.

You read the surface, attack on your knee jerk reaction, start casting labels and insults.

Just like the extreme right does.

It's all the same coin just different sides now, no side is in the right. Period.

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insolenthedgehog's avatar

Scott, Scotty, Scottarino. If insults are a sign that one doesn't have an argument, this was over the second you said "idiocy." Never mind when one person starts talking about how much they're laughing or what a good "chuckle" they got out of what the other person said. Be that as it may.

I get that one of the chief draws of political centrism/moderation/independence/however you describe yourself and/or present yourself on this blog is that you get to feel superior to two ideological groups instead of just one. Bonus, you get to present yourself as "objective" and "enlightened," and preach accordingly. Still and all, it's not our fault that you don't like what you see when we strip away the veneer of finger wagging, "let me tell you what you should and shouldn't be writing about" pseudo-profundity.

You are endorsing a fairy tale: that people who have shown no inkling that they are willing to compromise with godless liberals, even after 16 nonsequential years of Clinton and Obama reaching across the aisle, can be placated. People who are gung-ho about supporting a convicted felon 34 times over. People who compare being asked to wear a mask during a pandemic to the Shoah. People who take mere acknowledgement that gay, bi, and trans people exist as a call to the bathhouses and/or SRS.

Meanwhile, how are you suggesting we placate them? By . . . not writing an article about lots of people boycotting TSC because they ended their DEIB program and Pride participation? Why on earth shouldn't the writers write about this? It doesn't take away from the many, many articles on subjects that meet your approval, ie economic issues, and it's an illuminating counter to the millions of interviews about Trump supporters raging against DEIB and gay people. This leads one to believe you didn't read past the headline, otherwise you would have seen that it's about the very thing you talk about: voting with your wallet, and are too proud to admit you're wrong. Or that your actual problem is with the icky DEIB and the LGBT folks. Which is a you problem. Or that you don't think we should talk about or advocate for LGBT people, because it might anger the Trump supporters. Which is cowardly, shitty, and won't work for multiple reasons, including that we're not going away. Or you're trolling.

Anyway, while this is been a blast, my prescription is ready, and I gotta go make dinner. Take it sleazy. Oh, thanks for reminding me that we've encountered one another on this blog before. It's nice to know I'm remembered! 😉

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Jen of Defense (War!)'s avatar

Yeah, it is totes spin to "quote them with their own words" and "report what they are doing"

Precisely the same as Info Wars making shit up to "quote them using their own exact words"

Very divide to point out how people are being bigots. It is the real racisms and all!

You, personally, are bad and should feel bad. No one here is fooled by your concerns.

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C Scott's avatar

I am not "bad" nor do I feel bad.

I'm just sick of the division, segregation, and everyone being "offended" on BOTH sides of the extreme.

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Jus_Wonderin's avatar

Thanks Robyn. This clarified the issue for me. I had heard there was an issue.

I guess they don't want my Ghey Money??

*owns actual tractor!!

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Bel-Ami's avatar

The thing is they don't actually sell tractors or other rural "big farm" equipment. They sell stuff for back-yard and allotment gardeners, urban/ suburban/semi-rural "homesteader" types and so forth. Those are demographics that tend to be kinda liberal, historically. This may not be the flex they think it is. If I were their competitors I'd be hustling to pick up the slack!

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Pexas Teat's avatar

We have a Farm Union and a TSC here in town. Guess which one I am a member of and patronize?

(that's right, the one with an annual 14-18% dividend)

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clairence's avatar

"Surely, they know what they are doing by aligning themselves with the far-Right."

>maybe getting a jump on the coming culture shift

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Biff52, Safe from TX floods's avatar

I've never shopped at, or even seen, a Tractor Supply. There's a rumor they're coming soon to the only incorporated town in my county, though. Unless they reverse this decision, I'll never see the inside of one.

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Enter Ranting's avatar

We had a great little hardware chain in Los Angeles called Orchard Supply Hardware. The new CEO, who had previously run J.C. Penny into the ground, decided the chain wasn’t making enough for the shareholders and shut the whole thing down. Don’t worry, he made off with millions.

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SterWonk's avatar

The thing is, the people complaining WEREN'T EVEN CUSTOMERS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ODC--M_Tg&t=293s

'It certainly appears that they have alienated a segment of their actual customer base -- chickens, horse feed, fencing, boots, these are all things they actually sell -- um and they have alienated at least a portion of them, to appease a group of people who, based on some of the comments, they don't even know what they sell.'

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Craig Nixon's avatar

It's NEVER the actual customers. Everyone posting pics of how *horrified* they are by Pride merch, or Black Wheelchair Santa, at Target are never actually AT Target. I'm always over here like "Hey, you were already boycotting them, remember?"

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Ward From Cali's avatar

Okay, fine. Tractor Supply's customers have a big MAGA bigot contingent, this won't hurt their sales. But they've painted a big ol' target on their back for the burgeoning environmental lawfare movement, along with all the garden-variety legal exposure that DEI and the like is supposed to prevent. Have fun with the lawsuits, boys!

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Jim Parker's avatar

What a bunch of spineless, immoral cowards. Ethical people also might spend their money at TSC, but may also choose not to. Guess they'd rather keep the redneck bigots and ignorant haters coming in. Fuck them all.

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Joe Max's avatar

Corporations generally don't give a rat's ass about DEI programs, the do it so the DON'T GET SUED. The example of the woman with HIV is illustrative. TSC better lawyer up, they're going to get a lot more discrimination lawsuits, since they've just offered up the best evidence a plaintiff will need.

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Carz Nelson's avatar

They're already losing business. I have a friend who breeds dogs and keeps horses, sometimes selling pony rides. She says she will never shop there again. Rural populations are a lot more complex and diverse than they get credit for.

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Amanda Rez's avatar

There are lots of posts on threads about people not going to tractor supply in the future - they are helping each other find other stores that sells dog food and other ag supplies. Overall the “woke left” seems pretty resolute they will not shop there again. And they are tagging TS in their posts.

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Mr Canoehead/M Tête-Canoë's avatar

"Helping each other find other stores" And that's how a progressive boycott can be more effective than a right-wing one. They seem to have a problem with helping each other, for some reason.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And they know what boycott actually means. Not shopping there and throwing something in the trash, after they've paid good money for it like the the magas do!

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tim gueguen's avatar

Robby Starbuck sounds like the name of a '70s one hit wonder, or maybe a briefly popular young sitcom actor from the same era. The kind that often had rumours floating around about them that they were gay.

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Craig Nixon's avatar

Well, you're in luck. Starbuck WAS a one hit wonder of the '70s. (Not Robby, obv.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Ltf1_7b-M

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Vermicious Kid, RN's avatar

Wow, this is super sad. What a needless cruelty to LGBTQ+ people just trying to mind their agricultural business, at a TSC that’s likely the only store in town; not to mention the rural LGBTQ+ young people who will now be like “oh I’m definitely not going to apply to work there, no matter how smart and skilled I am”

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Jim Parker's avatar

I'll state the obvious once again. Cruelty is the point for these obnoxious cretins. They can only be happy, or whatever version they have of that emotion, when they cause someone else to suffer.

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