Oh wow. The sophistry. I have a concern that people like Jack Turban are lying or weaponizing the science to distort the reality of puberty blockers. I have a concern that a 20 year old male who started testosterone suppression two years ago has maintained the advantage of 6-8 years of male puberty. These are not attacks on individual people.
I don't know this country or the people in it like I thought I did.
I was told "it gets better", but by all accounts it's getting worse. Before as a trans person you weren't noticed until you were noticed, and if the situation was casual it wasn't likely to be life ending when you were clocked as trans. Now, we're used as a political shiny object by both parties, and there's an entire movement of Christian nationalists in power that have literally stated they want us to be erased.
Other western nations seem to be able incorporate trans people. Maybe these asshelmets are right for once where the US is concerned, and it's just incapable, as shameful as that would be.
The more I hear from liberals about trans people being a reason they lost this election, the more I hear about them hem and haw about sports and medically necessary trans related care for prisoners or kids or whatever, I realize that I don't have anything beyond fair-weather support here, even from liberals, and neither does any other trans person.
And we're right in the crosshairs of this new admin. We'll be among the first to be "deported" (i assume that's the new euphemism)
It’s disgusting. All these people are looking for an easy scapegoat, and trans people were the easiest this cycle.
Easiest because most vulnerable. I’m so glad I never had kids. It would just break my heart watching the world tear them apart the way it did me - and there was no social media yet then.
I get it. It’s easier to point the finger at trans people than to do the work of figuring out what really went wrong. The real work may take a long time.
The big asymmetry is this: most dems don’t really care what trans folks do. And that’s a good thing. We just don’t care because you do you.
Republicans care a lot. And so that makes it an asymmetrical battle where one side is aggressively attacking something the other side doesn’t care that much about.
White men doing post mortem: "So the Democratic Party needs to be about the white labor movement - but the rest of you should still vote for us, just keep quiet and trust us and we'll take care of you" No fucking thanks
One of Frederick Douglass's most famous quotes is presented various ways. The version displayed at the Los Angeles Public Library is "Power never concedes nothing without a demand. It never has. It never will." Martin Luther King expounded further in his letter from the Birmingham Jail. Expecting those in power to read your mind and magnanimously grant you what you need is a fool's game. Not that you didn't know that already, but it does my heart good to remember what those people said.
"disingenuously blame the “far left” for defending trans participation in sport and thus causing Harris’s loss"
Only problem with that is that Harris' campaign Never leaned into or addressed that issue. For better or worse she strategically stayed away from that bug bear. And now her failed run is being blamed on something that she never actually ran with. Though it was certainly implied. As an adult I understand how politics works, and while a strong stand for our trans brothers and sisters would have been appreciated, it was understandable why she didn't lean into it. And I was OK with that, because the whole point was winning. At any cost.
Ask any transperson if they felt like the Harris campaign really hammered home support of them and they will tell you that she just kind of said 'I'll uphold the laws' and that was it. So anyone saying that the Trans folks got their way at the expense of anyone else is lying.
This was an issue people like Joe were complaining months before the election happened, before we lost. I know one of the arguments is to protect women and girls, but seeing as the issue is MOSTLY with transfem folks and not transmasc, it's partly due to a deep-seated misogyny in this country a refusal to acknowledge the safety issues women face are due to cis men, always has been, always will be. We are literally blaming the most powerless group that was under the big tent, this isn't surprising, blame the group that has the least power. I wish we could move to the point where no one needs to know what gender you were assigned at birth.
Denying gender affirming care and refusing to treat trans people with respect and humanity is harming them. And nobody is advocating boys playing girls’ sports. That’s a total disingenuous distortion of the rare occasions when trans athletes compete. But like most distorted issues and misinformation, angry voters feel like it’s a very pervasive problem that makes no sense to them and only an angry bigot like Trump can put a stop to it.
The blaming and finger pointing for Harris’ loss is exhausting and it’s only been 3 days. Harris ran a beautiful campaign. There is no rational reason she lost. All the hundreds of tedious articles blaming Democrats for America simply having no choice but to elect Trump again should be scrapped and retitled, “What the fuck is wrong with American voters?” Or “How America Lost Its Way in the Age of Rage, Influencers and Misinformation.”
America chose the convicted felon and abuser of women instead of the prosecutor. That’s the only sociological analysis worth studying. All the finger pointing at Democrats is no different than victim shaming. We only elected Trump again because you made us do it. GTFO.
“How America Lost Its Way in the Age of Rage, Influencers and Misinformation.”
This is perfect. You know why no one will write it? It's because we have spent decades trying to say that 'racism' 'sexism' 'bigotry' is dead in America and that really it's only a very small group who still feel that way and that everything the kindly and generous Liberals in America and their corporate overlords has done has worked! Yay! Shining City on the Hill blah blah blah. This is the lie that we'd been told for decades, it's the lie we told the world.
When in reality we did less than half-measures and just ignored the festering hate that still infects half the population and a complicit complacency that infects a good portion of the rest. Look at the backlash from the Me Too movement, we make small gains, two rich men are punished for years of abuse and now we have a men's movement that wants to subjugate and control women. If I dig back into time there wasn't a huge media fueled, corporate funded backlash against trans people. There was discrimination, there was hate, but the media wasn't fanning the flames into the inferno it is today. By fanning the flames I don't mean the media talking about how everyone needs to feel safe, rather the media treating the outraged stories of Transwomen being alone with Cis women and girls as fair and balanced reporting, 'just asking questions' and 'well, some folks are concerned'. The negative attention to the issues trans people face shouted down the 'can't we just exist without being tortured and killed' stories. I guarantee more people know about the 'girls in sports' than know about what happened to Nex. For a country where people SAY they value personal privacy and individualism we sure have a problem actually allowing people to have those things.
Another, very ugly issue is that some people are not so much pointing fingers at trans people as saying 'well I only have so much time and I feel my cause is greater. We're going to fight about bathrooms when Palestinians are being murdered/black people are being targeted by LEO/women are losing rights, etc'. We live in a world where you can't support A,B and C - you have to expend all of your time and energy in one place and if anyone in your party is spending time and resources on someone else's problems, then you are the problem and are now my enemy.
The mistake of this election was ignoring ALL of what is listed in the above, because I'm not just talking about the MAGA movement, the bigots are in the house and we ignore them because we think we 'need them' to win.
I know young adults who will literally die if they can't get testosterone. Your body will stop making it at some point and you will need to keep taking it to survive. There are some really ugly things about this election that I'm afraid to talk about, but it's probably safe here. The fastest way for these Nazis to get their way is to let the people they don't find useful, to die. Trans woman can't make babies, many cis women can't either (but that's not mentioned at the moment), what people are blind to is that all of these negative racist/sexist/bigotted policies DO hurt everyone, whether they believe it or not. Take no trans women in sports - OK well do you start demanding hormone tests for all girls trying out for sports? OK you will do that without caring that there are CIS women who have naturally high testosterone...so will those girls now be called boys and forced to live as boys, made to use the boys bathrooms? Wouldn't that hurt your precious little girls? forcing them to be boys when they aren't? Because with the inferno the media has caused, by treating the bigots opinions as fair, this will be the consequence, and once again, it's what they are accusing anyone who supports trans people of doing...we are not forcing anyone to change genders, but THEY will be.
Also, I need to add that many Dems blamed BLM last time, they blamed Defund the Police so yes, the bigots are in the house (tent). Abortion and women's healthcare was blamed too 'we can't make everything about abortion!' People like Joe S want the Democratic Party to ONLY be about white dudes getting fair pay and literally nothing more.
My trans kids support literally all of those things-their existence and them receiving our support doesn't take away from all the other people who need help...it's so sad and I'm sick
Ta, Crip Dyke. How many murders of trans women of color never even got a cursory investigation? This makes me livid. Trans rights are human rights, and all these capitulators can fuck right off into the sun.
There has been precious little thoughtful analysis and way too much interpretation of the election results to justify prior opinions, as if these opinions held up to even cursory examination. Iʻve only heard two reasons, maybe three, that explain why Harris and a lot of Democrats lost:
1. Every reputable poll before the election showed voters thought the country was on the wrong track by a greater than 2-to-1 margin (e.g., Ipsos: 11/1 - 11/3, 1242 A, Right track=17, Wrong track=64, Spread-47). To paraphrase James Carville, "Itʻs the inflation, stupid."
Or, as Wisconsin Democratic Party Chair noted, "The post-COVID inflation era has marked a global wave against incumbent parties. In 2024, for the first year on record (with 120 years of data), every wealthy-country ruling party has lost ground, regardless of whether it was left or right of center. Across Belgium, France, Japan, Austria, Portugal, the US, and the UK, the average swing was 20 points.
"Inflation leads voters to punish whoever’s in power, even if they didn’t have control over it. The fact that US voters swung less hard against Democrats may be due to the greater success in the US, relative to other countries, in bringing inflation down.
"This tracks with what we’ve heard consistently for the last two years—in polls, in exit polls, and on doors. Many voters have been furious about high prices. The question was whether we could win the presidential race despite that headwind, given everything else (and yes, there was so much else). Like other parties worldwide, we didn’t. "
2. The environment was hostile to Harris, as a part of the administration that was unfairly blamed for the high prices. The other supposed reasons -- culture issues, Gaza, Immigration, abortion, etc., werenʻt deciding factors. She ran a great campaign but couldnʻt distance herself from Joe Biden, or more accurately, the anger toward his administration.
3. Biden could have possibly made a difference, if he had kept his promise to be a "transitional president" and not run, so the party could have held a primary and perhaps selected a candidate who wasnʻt viewed as responsible for the financial hardships too many families faced.
In two years, there will be another chance to reset the makeup of the House and Senate... if we can make it until then.
Whether or not people believe it, I really don't give a flying fuck. i knew Donald Trump from Manhattan in the 1970s. He was a complete and total obnoxious asshole then and remains so to this day. He's less qualified to be POTUS than one of my dogs
Oh wow. The sophistry. I have a concern that people like Jack Turban are lying or weaponizing the science to distort the reality of puberty blockers. I have a concern that a 20 year old male who started testosterone suppression two years ago has maintained the advantage of 6-8 years of male puberty. These are not attacks on individual people.
Jamaal Bowman would have been better than the right -wing Suozzi.
I don't know this country or the people in it like I thought I did.
I was told "it gets better", but by all accounts it's getting worse. Before as a trans person you weren't noticed until you were noticed, and if the situation was casual it wasn't likely to be life ending when you were clocked as trans. Now, we're used as a political shiny object by both parties, and there's an entire movement of Christian nationalists in power that have literally stated they want us to be erased.
Other western nations seem to be able incorporate trans people. Maybe these asshelmets are right for once where the US is concerned, and it's just incapable, as shameful as that would be.
The more I hear from liberals about trans people being a reason they lost this election, the more I hear about them hem and haw about sports and medically necessary trans related care for prisoners or kids or whatever, I realize that I don't have anything beyond fair-weather support here, even from liberals, and neither does any other trans person.
And we're right in the crosshairs of this new admin. We'll be among the first to be "deported" (i assume that's the new euphemism)
I don't belong here. America has made that clear.
Finger-pointing is for the republicans, silly.
It’s disgusting. All these people are looking for an easy scapegoat, and trans people were the easiest this cycle.
Easiest because most vulnerable. I’m so glad I never had kids. It would just break my heart watching the world tear them apart the way it did me - and there was no social media yet then.
I get it. It’s easier to point the finger at trans people than to do the work of figuring out what really went wrong. The real work may take a long time.
The big asymmetry is this: most dems don’t really care what trans folks do. And that’s a good thing. We just don’t care because you do you.
Republicans care a lot. And so that makes it an asymmetrical battle where one side is aggressively attacking something the other side doesn’t care that much about.
White men doing post mortem: "So the Democratic Party needs to be about the white labor movement - but the rest of you should still vote for us, just keep quiet and trust us and we'll take care of you" No fucking thanks
One of Frederick Douglass's most famous quotes is presented various ways. The version displayed at the Los Angeles Public Library is "Power never concedes nothing without a demand. It never has. It never will." Martin Luther King expounded further in his letter from the Birmingham Jail. Expecting those in power to read your mind and magnanimously grant you what you need is a fool's game. Not that you didn't know that already, but it does my heart good to remember what those people said.
i’ve known since i was 5 that i wasn’t a “girl” or a “boy”.
"disingenuously blame the “far left” for defending trans participation in sport and thus causing Harris’s loss"
Only problem with that is that Harris' campaign Never leaned into or addressed that issue. For better or worse she strategically stayed away from that bug bear. And now her failed run is being blamed on something that she never actually ran with. Though it was certainly implied. As an adult I understand how politics works, and while a strong stand for our trans brothers and sisters would have been appreciated, it was understandable why she didn't lean into it. And I was OK with that, because the whole point was winning. At any cost.
Ask any transperson if they felt like the Harris campaign really hammered home support of them and they will tell you that she just kind of said 'I'll uphold the laws' and that was it. So anyone saying that the Trans folks got their way at the expense of anyone else is lying.
This was an issue people like Joe were complaining months before the election happened, before we lost. I know one of the arguments is to protect women and girls, but seeing as the issue is MOSTLY with transfem folks and not transmasc, it's partly due to a deep-seated misogyny in this country a refusal to acknowledge the safety issues women face are due to cis men, always has been, always will be. We are literally blaming the most powerless group that was under the big tent, this isn't surprising, blame the group that has the least power. I wish we could move to the point where no one needs to know what gender you were assigned at birth.
Denying gender affirming care and refusing to treat trans people with respect and humanity is harming them. And nobody is advocating boys playing girls’ sports. That’s a total disingenuous distortion of the rare occasions when trans athletes compete. But like most distorted issues and misinformation, angry voters feel like it’s a very pervasive problem that makes no sense to them and only an angry bigot like Trump can put a stop to it.
The blaming and finger pointing for Harris’ loss is exhausting and it’s only been 3 days. Harris ran a beautiful campaign. There is no rational reason she lost. All the hundreds of tedious articles blaming Democrats for America simply having no choice but to elect Trump again should be scrapped and retitled, “What the fuck is wrong with American voters?” Or “How America Lost Its Way in the Age of Rage, Influencers and Misinformation.”
America chose the convicted felon and abuser of women instead of the prosecutor. That’s the only sociological analysis worth studying. All the finger pointing at Democrats is no different than victim shaming. We only elected Trump again because you made us do it. GTFO.
“How America Lost Its Way in the Age of Rage, Influencers and Misinformation.”
This is perfect. You know why no one will write it? It's because we have spent decades trying to say that 'racism' 'sexism' 'bigotry' is dead in America and that really it's only a very small group who still feel that way and that everything the kindly and generous Liberals in America and their corporate overlords has done has worked! Yay! Shining City on the Hill blah blah blah. This is the lie that we'd been told for decades, it's the lie we told the world.
When in reality we did less than half-measures and just ignored the festering hate that still infects half the population and a complicit complacency that infects a good portion of the rest. Look at the backlash from the Me Too movement, we make small gains, two rich men are punished for years of abuse and now we have a men's movement that wants to subjugate and control women. If I dig back into time there wasn't a huge media fueled, corporate funded backlash against trans people. There was discrimination, there was hate, but the media wasn't fanning the flames into the inferno it is today. By fanning the flames I don't mean the media talking about how everyone needs to feel safe, rather the media treating the outraged stories of Transwomen being alone with Cis women and girls as fair and balanced reporting, 'just asking questions' and 'well, some folks are concerned'. The negative attention to the issues trans people face shouted down the 'can't we just exist without being tortured and killed' stories. I guarantee more people know about the 'girls in sports' than know about what happened to Nex. For a country where people SAY they value personal privacy and individualism we sure have a problem actually allowing people to have those things.
Another, very ugly issue is that some people are not so much pointing fingers at trans people as saying 'well I only have so much time and I feel my cause is greater. We're going to fight about bathrooms when Palestinians are being murdered/black people are being targeted by LEO/women are losing rights, etc'. We live in a world where you can't support A,B and C - you have to expend all of your time and energy in one place and if anyone in your party is spending time and resources on someone else's problems, then you are the problem and are now my enemy.
The mistake of this election was ignoring ALL of what is listed in the above, because I'm not just talking about the MAGA movement, the bigots are in the house and we ignore them because we think we 'need them' to win.
I know young adults who will literally die if they can't get testosterone. Your body will stop making it at some point and you will need to keep taking it to survive. There are some really ugly things about this election that I'm afraid to talk about, but it's probably safe here. The fastest way for these Nazis to get their way is to let the people they don't find useful, to die. Trans woman can't make babies, many cis women can't either (but that's not mentioned at the moment), what people are blind to is that all of these negative racist/sexist/bigotted policies DO hurt everyone, whether they believe it or not. Take no trans women in sports - OK well do you start demanding hormone tests for all girls trying out for sports? OK you will do that without caring that there are CIS women who have naturally high testosterone...so will those girls now be called boys and forced to live as boys, made to use the boys bathrooms? Wouldn't that hurt your precious little girls? forcing them to be boys when they aren't? Because with the inferno the media has caused, by treating the bigots opinions as fair, this will be the consequence, and once again, it's what they are accusing anyone who supports trans people of doing...we are not forcing anyone to change genders, but THEY will be.
Also, I need to add that many Dems blamed BLM last time, they blamed Defund the Police so yes, the bigots are in the house (tent). Abortion and women's healthcare was blamed too 'we can't make everything about abortion!' People like Joe S want the Democratic Party to ONLY be about white dudes getting fair pay and literally nothing more.
My trans kids support literally all of those things-their existence and them receiving our support doesn't take away from all the other people who need help...it's so sad and I'm sick
Wonderful post Crip Dyke!!
Ta, Crip Dyke. How many murders of trans women of color never even got a cursory investigation? This makes me livid. Trans rights are human rights, and all these capitulators can fuck right off into the sun.
There has been precious little thoughtful analysis and way too much interpretation of the election results to justify prior opinions, as if these opinions held up to even cursory examination. Iʻve only heard two reasons, maybe three, that explain why Harris and a lot of Democrats lost:
1. Every reputable poll before the election showed voters thought the country was on the wrong track by a greater than 2-to-1 margin (e.g., Ipsos: 11/1 - 11/3, 1242 A, Right track=17, Wrong track=64, Spread-47). To paraphrase James Carville, "Itʻs the inflation, stupid."
Or, as Wisconsin Democratic Party Chair noted, "The post-COVID inflation era has marked a global wave against incumbent parties. In 2024, for the first year on record (with 120 years of data), every wealthy-country ruling party has lost ground, regardless of whether it was left or right of center. Across Belgium, France, Japan, Austria, Portugal, the US, and the UK, the average swing was 20 points.
"Inflation leads voters to punish whoever’s in power, even if they didn’t have control over it. The fact that US voters swung less hard against Democrats may be due to the greater success in the US, relative to other countries, in bringing inflation down.
"This tracks with what we’ve heard consistently for the last two years—in polls, in exit polls, and on doors. Many voters have been furious about high prices. The question was whether we could win the presidential race despite that headwind, given everything else (and yes, there was so much else). Like other parties worldwide, we didn’t. "
2. The environment was hostile to Harris, as a part of the administration that was unfairly blamed for the high prices. The other supposed reasons -- culture issues, Gaza, Immigration, abortion, etc., werenʻt deciding factors. She ran a great campaign but couldnʻt distance herself from Joe Biden, or more accurately, the anger toward his administration.
3. Biden could have possibly made a difference, if he had kept his promise to be a "transitional president" and not run, so the party could have held a primary and perhaps selected a candidate who wasnʻt viewed as responsible for the financial hardships too many families faced.
In two years, there will be another chance to reset the makeup of the House and Senate... if we can make it until then.
That's some amazing bullshit. It stinks through the internet :D
Whether or not people believe it, I really don't give a flying fuck. i knew Donald Trump from Manhattan in the 1970s. He was a complete and total obnoxious asshole then and remains so to this day. He's less qualified to be POTUS than one of my dogs
Now, thanks to my "fellow Americans" i have to tolerate Trump's stupid shit for another 4 years. JFC!! How stupid are you people?