I have never understood why people need a weapon with 50 rounds in the clip. That weapon was designed to kill a lot of people quickly. So why would anyone need to shoot 50 people? I love Scarface but it is a movie not a documentary!
I've only ever spent a few days in the US and I must admit, everyone I met seemed pretty normal. Clearly I wasn't paying attention!
This may seem harsh but... do you guys realise how fucking crazy this looks from countries who don't think it's a good idea to let individuals wander around with ANY sort of gun - never mind an assault rifle? Those being 99% of countries in the world.
Have you guys not noticed that... other countries seem to be doing OK by not letting lunatics loose with guns - and less people are getting shot?
Do you not think that.... rather than being "too soon to talk about gun controls", it's way too fucking late?
Can you not see the difference between "a well-trained militia" and a bunch of fucking crazies stockpiling dozens of guns and thousands of rounds of ammo?
Here in the UK we have a problem with money in politics - both our main parties receive most of their donations from the wealthy and big business. And I think its even worse in the US.
Until you stop the gun lobby from "buying policy", I can't see anything being done. It's pretty obvious that big businesses and wealthy individuals pump money into politics for a reason. Yeah... they want something in return: more profit/wealth.
So first off, I'd introduce a "proper" cap on donations. Democracy was never meant to be controlled by the rich and powerful - it's supposed to be the electorate. And, I'm pretty sure the electorate want sensible gun controls - i.e.: banning assault rifles and proper background checks.
Who knows? Maybe politicians would even dare to look at the 2nd-amendment and interpret "A well regulated Militia" more honestly. Right now it seems its being read as: "any lunatic who wants an assault rifle, can have one".
Not to quibble, but "Adults aren't wandering into schools with an AR-15 and a host of incoherent grievances" --in point of fact, sometimes they are, as well. And given the amount of incoherent grievance, unprocessed trauma, inchoate rage and impaired emotional regulation out there --in adults, or what are technically/nominally adults --no, no more guns for you folks. The kid's father shouldn't have been able to buy one, period.
I know that point is implicit in the piece above; just felt like being explicit.
Personally, being a parent to an often angry and emotional little boy has opened my eyes to the pain that kids endure. I was considered a cute, blonde haired and well-behaved kid. I had friends. I was accepted. And I still felt almost obsessively self-conscious and anxious about being accepted. I can’t imagine how lonely and miserable it would be to be bullied, laughed at, scorned or even simply ignored.
Not all school shooters are lonely, awkward, bullied outcasts who seem to be lashing out in a moment of incomprehensible violent rage to prove they aren’t invisible, they aren’t powerless. I’m sure it’s more complicated than that, in many cases. But one thing is more than clear - we need a new set of protocols and maybe even a dedicated school psychologist to identify kids in crisis, embrace them and provide resources to help them escape that growing sense of isolation, that sadness eventually turning to simmering rage.
Kids can be hard on each other. Grade school is like a little Darwin experiment. Groups are formed, kids are chosen by peers to succeed and lead and they attract kids to that success. Almost everyone wants acceptance, to find their place. Not everyone wants to be popular, certainly, but most kids need a friend or two and a place in their school micro-society. Often, kids elevate their own status at the expense of others. I did. I was guilty of it despite my generally kind personality. I was also insecure myself, and I lacked the confidence to tell bullies to back off, or to sit next to a lonely kid at lunch just to extend a hand. I wasn’t a bully, by any means. I was bullied sometimes. But I tried to keep my head down and find acceptance with my humor. I was a class clown, at some stages of my childhood. Whatever worked, whatever made me fit someplace. But I lacked self-awareness of how my self-preservation was viewed by other kids who I didn’t interact with. On a whim, I threw my name into the pot for a class officer position, vice-president or something. I was pretty sure I’d be elected, I was funny after all. I lost, and my lazy, last-minute entry into the mix wasn’t well received.
But the most memorable and shocking lesson I learned was in 9th or 10th grade. A girl in my class who was often picked on for being poor was sitting in class alone. It was a few minutes before class started. I was sitting at the back, a few rows behind her. Just she and I. We had no history at all, no reason our paths would cross and I had done my part to ignore her. This day, with just she and I in an empty room, she turned around and said, “you’re an asshole.” I was stunned, and simply replied, “what?” That’s all she said, and we never spoke after that. It planted a seed in my mind, however, that has always made me try harder to be kind to everyone. I had ignored her. I never tried to include her, or just treat her with respect. I never picked on her, but I was part of the group of kids that chose not to see her at all. She was irrelevant to many of us. That day, she was letting me know that she did exist, and she deserved respect and acceptance as much as I did.
School can be a cold, cruel, lonely place for many kids. Since we obviously are incapable of a sweeping ban and buyback of automatic and semiautomatic weapons that are being used in these mass killings, maybe we can at least try to create more awareness and support for kids who feel rejected by their peers. We are evidently powerless to address the gun problem in America through politics. But if there is a common thread among some of these young shooters, we need to do more to identify kids at risk, and help them. It sounds like the GA shooter was in trouble a year ago. He needed help, and his threats online were enough to alarm others who notified authorities. That should have been enough to introduce the boy into a program that identifies the roots of the anger and need to lash out. Kids who feel victimized, marginalized or bullied are often capable of deadly violence. Before that happens, we must address their pain somehow. Instead, 4 people are dead, 9 others badly injured. Many more kids and administrators will be traumatized and need support. This shooting, yet another, will change the lives of countless families and will likely see a 14-year-old and possibly his father incarcerated. We have an epidemic of angry kids who without intervention will keep finding ways to let their pent up rage explode.
Let me start by stating I wish this tragedy upon NO one, not even KD couchfuck, nor any proud member of the NRA, but should it happen to one of their children, I'd like to hear their response to : there, there now, it's just a fact of life. Don't take it too hard nor too personal. It's just 'one of those things', you know : shit happens....
Sorry if this has been addressed already in the huge non-comments but, like everything else this knob says, there's gotta be video/audio of him saying the opposite from six years ago or something, right? I find it incredibly hard to believe a guy who came of age with Columbine and the rest could have always been so callous about school shootings.
I don't know about school shootings but I recall he was supposed to have pablum about how stupid poor hillbillies were so they clung to their guns and Bibles culture.
This is just an observation. I hope it does not happen. But if this violence goes on unabated, spurred by the GOP, NRA, and the gun manufacturers, at some point someone may decide to bring this issue home to them. It is not that likely since there is a kook imbalance between right and left, but it's not impossible. The Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the Republican softball practice showed that.
in a roundabout way, J Divans and the Rs who talk about "armoring schools" are also advocating for their dream of privatizing the school system. All this security would be a taxpayer burden, so they could then argue that if we have privately funded schools, the schools could pay for their own security (esp. when the new security systems in the public schools fail to stop shootings).
I have never understood why people need a weapon with 50 rounds in the clip. That weapon was designed to kill a lot of people quickly. So why would anyone need to shoot 50 people? I love Scarface but it is a movie not a documentary!
I've only ever spent a few days in the US and I must admit, everyone I met seemed pretty normal. Clearly I wasn't paying attention!
This may seem harsh but... do you guys realise how fucking crazy this looks from countries who don't think it's a good idea to let individuals wander around with ANY sort of gun - never mind an assault rifle? Those being 99% of countries in the world.
Have you guys not noticed that... other countries seem to be doing OK by not letting lunatics loose with guns - and less people are getting shot?
Do you not think that.... rather than being "too soon to talk about gun controls", it's way too fucking late?
Can you not see the difference between "a well-trained militia" and a bunch of fucking crazies stockpiling dozens of guns and thousands of rounds of ammo?
From over here it looks totally fucking moronic.
A lot of us do know, obviously. It's a PR thing on behalf of the craziest of the gun-humpers.
If you read here you know that we are appalled that this is going on. What do you suggest we do about it?
Here in the UK we have a problem with money in politics - both our main parties receive most of their donations from the wealthy and big business. And I think its even worse in the US.
Until you stop the gun lobby from "buying policy", I can't see anything being done. It's pretty obvious that big businesses and wealthy individuals pump money into politics for a reason. Yeah... they want something in return: more profit/wealth.
So first off, I'd introduce a "proper" cap on donations. Democracy was never meant to be controlled by the rich and powerful - it's supposed to be the electorate. And, I'm pretty sure the electorate want sensible gun controls - i.e.: banning assault rifles and proper background checks.
Who knows? Maybe politicians would even dare to look at the 2nd-amendment and interpret "A well regulated Militia" more honestly. Right now it seems its being read as: "any lunatic who wants an assault rifle, can have one".
We need a chart showing the rise in school shootings after congress released restrictions on ARs.
Trump looked in a mirror and saw Vance and picked Vance.
Someone shot a student in Maryland yesterday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/09/06/student-shot-killed-maryland-school/
JD has the empathy of a Turd AKA Trump!
Not to quibble, but "Adults aren't wandering into schools with an AR-15 and a host of incoherent grievances" --in point of fact, sometimes they are, as well. And given the amount of incoherent grievance, unprocessed trauma, inchoate rage and impaired emotional regulation out there --in adults, or what are technically/nominally adults --no, no more guns for you folks. The kid's father shouldn't have been able to buy one, period.
I know that point is implicit in the piece above; just felt like being explicit.
Take a few shots at Vance, see how he feels
Personally, being a parent to an often angry and emotional little boy has opened my eyes to the pain that kids endure. I was considered a cute, blonde haired and well-behaved kid. I had friends. I was accepted. And I still felt almost obsessively self-conscious and anxious about being accepted. I can’t imagine how lonely and miserable it would be to be bullied, laughed at, scorned or even simply ignored.
Not all school shooters are lonely, awkward, bullied outcasts who seem to be lashing out in a moment of incomprehensible violent rage to prove they aren’t invisible, they aren’t powerless. I’m sure it’s more complicated than that, in many cases. But one thing is more than clear - we need a new set of protocols and maybe even a dedicated school psychologist to identify kids in crisis, embrace them and provide resources to help them escape that growing sense of isolation, that sadness eventually turning to simmering rage.
Kids can be hard on each other. Grade school is like a little Darwin experiment. Groups are formed, kids are chosen by peers to succeed and lead and they attract kids to that success. Almost everyone wants acceptance, to find their place. Not everyone wants to be popular, certainly, but most kids need a friend or two and a place in their school micro-society. Often, kids elevate their own status at the expense of others. I did. I was guilty of it despite my generally kind personality. I was also insecure myself, and I lacked the confidence to tell bullies to back off, or to sit next to a lonely kid at lunch just to extend a hand. I wasn’t a bully, by any means. I was bullied sometimes. But I tried to keep my head down and find acceptance with my humor. I was a class clown, at some stages of my childhood. Whatever worked, whatever made me fit someplace. But I lacked self-awareness of how my self-preservation was viewed by other kids who I didn’t interact with. On a whim, I threw my name into the pot for a class officer position, vice-president or something. I was pretty sure I’d be elected, I was funny after all. I lost, and my lazy, last-minute entry into the mix wasn’t well received.
But the most memorable and shocking lesson I learned was in 9th or 10th grade. A girl in my class who was often picked on for being poor was sitting in class alone. It was a few minutes before class started. I was sitting at the back, a few rows behind her. Just she and I. We had no history at all, no reason our paths would cross and I had done my part to ignore her. This day, with just she and I in an empty room, she turned around and said, “you’re an asshole.” I was stunned, and simply replied, “what?” That’s all she said, and we never spoke after that. It planted a seed in my mind, however, that has always made me try harder to be kind to everyone. I had ignored her. I never tried to include her, or just treat her with respect. I never picked on her, but I was part of the group of kids that chose not to see her at all. She was irrelevant to many of us. That day, she was letting me know that she did exist, and she deserved respect and acceptance as much as I did.
School can be a cold, cruel, lonely place for many kids. Since we obviously are incapable of a sweeping ban and buyback of automatic and semiautomatic weapons that are being used in these mass killings, maybe we can at least try to create more awareness and support for kids who feel rejected by their peers. We are evidently powerless to address the gun problem in America through politics. But if there is a common thread among some of these young shooters, we need to do more to identify kids at risk, and help them. It sounds like the GA shooter was in trouble a year ago. He needed help, and his threats online were enough to alarm others who notified authorities. That should have been enough to introduce the boy into a program that identifies the roots of the anger and need to lash out. Kids who feel victimized, marginalized or bullied are often capable of deadly violence. Before that happens, we must address their pain somehow. Instead, 4 people are dead, 9 others badly injured. Many more kids and administrators will be traumatized and need support. This shooting, yet another, will change the lives of countless families and will likely see a 14-year-old and possibly his father incarcerated. We have an epidemic of angry kids who without intervention will keep finding ways to let their pent up rage explode.
Let me start by stating I wish this tragedy upon NO one, not even KD couchfuck, nor any proud member of the NRA, but should it happen to one of their children, I'd like to hear their response to : there, there now, it's just a fact of life. Don't take it too hard nor too personal. It's just 'one of those things', you know : shit happens....
Justa Dick is pathetic POS and just wait till that shit happens to him!
Fact of life ≈ God moves in mysterious ways.
“How long have you been in a school shooting? Okay, good.”
Or maybe an addition to his 'people skills' : how OFTEN have you been in a mass shooting?
As often as I’d want to be.
Sorry if this has been addressed already in the huge non-comments but, like everything else this knob says, there's gotta be video/audio of him saying the opposite from six years ago or something, right? I find it incredibly hard to believe a guy who came of age with Columbine and the rest could have always been so callous about school shootings.
I don't know about school shootings but I recall he was supposed to have pablum about how stupid poor hillbillies were so they clung to their guns and Bibles culture.
This is just an observation. I hope it does not happen. But if this violence goes on unabated, spurred by the GOP, NRA, and the gun manufacturers, at some point someone may decide to bring this issue home to them. It is not that likely since there is a kook imbalance between right and left, but it's not impossible. The Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the Republican softball practice showed that.
Gun ban areas are common where Republican politicians and NRA speechify. And the bulletproof glass the Republican candidates use.
in a roundabout way, J Divans and the Rs who talk about "armoring schools" are also advocating for their dream of privatizing the school system. All this security would be a taxpayer burden, so they could then argue that if we have privately funded schools, the schools could pay for their own security (esp. when the new security systems in the public schools fail to stop shootings).