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nick kelly's avatar

RE: Vance. We know from past friends of his that he is a shape shifter who swung hard right because it looked like a career move. His problem now is this: at the present rate in a year much less 3 years there will be nothing left of the GOP, let alone MAGA to inherit. The rotting albatross called Trump will have maggots crawling all over the GOP. Its only hope for survival will be to try and forget Trump ever happened.

Conclusion: Vance's chances of becoming Pres by people's choice, an election. are as close to zero as a political prediction can be. Vance's only hope of becoming Pres is if Trump leaves before his term is up.

Trump can't handle stress, and every few days as his spell grows weaker, so does he, physically and mentally.

In the short term the political disintegration of Trump and MAGA may seem to also hurt Vance.

But if it causes Trump to burn out and leave office, it makes Vance.

Of course, Vance will have to look loyal, but let's see how well reasoned his defences of Trump are. and how much they look like forced loyalty: (I know Gramps is nuts, but after all he is the King)

The only way Vance becomes Pres with Trump still alive is a Trump 'burn out.'

Trump opining about a third term is evidence this is well underway.

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FloridaFloozy's avatar

After this is all over, JD Vance, Kristi Noem, Stephen Miller & all the rest need to be treated the same as war criminals were treated after WWII. I'll let you go ahead & look that one up for yourselves. (See Mussolini)

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Peter MacMonagle's avatar

On the video I saw him walk away as if it was just another day at the office. I suggest this is not the first time he has killed someone. Betcha he has done this before but hasn't been caught at it until now.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Evan. We included Renée Nicole Good in our Kaddish last night, along with my dad who died 58 years ago yesterday, and every other yahrzeit and a client of ours who died at 1:00 a.m. yesterday morning. May their memories always be a blessing.

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AmzGrace14k's avatar

Every time he opens his mouth orange trump shit spews out 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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RRJKR's avatar

If you haven't figured it out by now, this immigration "crackdown" has very little to do with removing criminal illegal aliens, but a whole lot to do with intimidating the general public and getting people to bow before law enforcement at all times. This is a total militarization of civilian police forces, who are rapidly becoming an occupational army.

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Richard Bonds's avatar

Wait. In that previous incident when ICE officer Jonathan Ross was injured attempting to apprehend an actual apparent criminal illegal immigrant in a vehicle. He busted the window, stuck his arm in and hung on while being dragged. And shot the guy twice with a Taser. With a Taser. Non-lethal. An actual apparent criminal illegal immigrant. With a Taser. Non-lethal. So...

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RRJKR's avatar

Isn't it enraging watching all these experts and pundits trying to soft soap this shit? They're all scared shitless of the TRUTH

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Suel J's avatar

He is a soft meaningless POS useful idiot busy parroting what he hears or just lying. And lying about murder now.

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RRJKR's avatar

JD is lower than whale shit

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Suel J's avatar

Oops, forgot. Useless tool.

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BlueSpot's avatar

If Jonathan Ross was injured on the job 6 months ago (a claim that I don't believe), then he should not have been on any American street working in a capacity of an ICE agent. At best, he should have been doing desk duty until he was cleared by a psychiatrist that he was fit to return to duty. The DHS is not providing any evidence that Ross was fit for active duty, no evidence (beyond the administration's word) that he suffered an on-the-job injury, or that he was competent to be carrying a firearm in public.

This was murder. Ross, his fellow ICE team members, and his bosses are all culpable under felony murder statutes in the State of Minnesota and the Federal Government.

At least there's no statute of limitations on murder. Ross will be captured, tried, and convicted at some point.

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RRJKR's avatar

i'm generally opposed to the death penalty, but there are exceptions in every case

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Zyxomma's avatar

No. Life in prison without parole. The death penalty should be reserved for treason.

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Littorally Speaking's avatar

[Divans’] 𝘊𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘢 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘱, 𝘢 𝘵𝘰𝘰𝘭 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘮𝘣𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘱𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳.

“Seems to be”?!

*Obviously* that is ALL it is, along with at least ninety-nine and forty-four hundredths of the rest of his “party”, and always has been; prolly most politicians FTM.

𝘖𝘶𝘳 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘢𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘵.

Oh sure, because that strategy worked SO WELL during the Third Reich, Franco’s Spain, Pinochet’s Chile, Somoza’s Nicaragua, Duarte’s El Slvador, etc etc, times infinity.

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San's avatar

The videos of the shooting show that Jonathan Ross murdered a woman with not one, not two, but three gunshots to the face. You can’t spin this JD you sick fucker

That’s sick! Mentally sick!

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RRJKR's avatar

Not sick! JD is just more of a totally amoral POS than his boss

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RRJKR's avatar

ICE will no doubt murder more American citizens, and people are going to start shooting back I refuse to be intimidated Trump and his merry band want a shooting war to erupt. They say FAFO, well right back atcha! This could get really ugly

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RRJKR's avatar

Sincer the FBI took the car, and refuse access to anyone else, I won't be surprised if they don't discover a cache of anti-ICE literature, automatic weapons and drugs. Ms Good was obviously a domestic terrorist bent upon all manner of mayhem!

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JWinfield's avatar

maybe Chicago Pope should threaten Couch mcgee with excommunication for so being so radically beyond catholic dogma. Or just call him into the office and spank that couch molester.

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

I see how the world works now.

I've seen the video. JONATHAN ROSS had his gun out as he walked up to the car. He fully intended to shoot the driver when he got there to put the fear of God in every protestor on the street.

Vice President Couchfucker would be so proud of me, since I know the deepest recesses of JONATHAN ROSS'S mind and can determine all his motives.

Spoiler Alert! His motives were not admirable.

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RRJKR's avatar

Probably disappointed that it was a White woman. Oh well, take what you can get.

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