Vance rose to prominence by writing a book which explained his parents failures as a result of their dysfunctional personalities ignoring the influence of the media and culture. Guess what JD-you're just like them!
"Which Vance would admit if he wasn’t so desperate for the vice-presidential nomination on Trump’s ticket that he’d probably swallow and beg for more if that’s what Stupid Mussolini wants.".........chefs kiss dude.......
"in American democracy you let the voters decide."
Damn straight, twatwaffle. And that's exactly what happened. The voters did decide, and their decision was, Oh no, not this asshole again. About *your* guy. Sorry (not sorry) if they didn't decide the way you wanted.
"The idea that this sets off a sequence where Donald Trump becomes the dictator of America is completely preposterous."
--Vance, 2024.
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler."
JD Vance looks like if the Chucky doll grew up. Dude is 100% Uncanny Valley. It would totally not surprise me to see him have a Yul Brenner at the end of Westworld moment.
I have a large and flexible vocabulary, and have studied the works of past masters of invective from Ambrose Bierce to Dorothy Parker, from Mark Twain to Henry Louis Mencken, and yet words fail me when trying to express my contempt and stomach-churning disgust at both Wuss Douchehat and Vance.
I still think that no matter how much Vance now backtracks and toadies, it will never be enough to erase in Trump's mind all the nasty things Vance said about him early on. Trump is plenty thin-skinned enough to hold a grudge that would nullify all of Vance's positives.
My money's on Burgum. I saw him on Hannity last night, and my God, he's perfect in that he's a fucking android. He's basically Mike Pence with a lot more facial creases: bland, anodyne, perfectly willing to drone talking points and accept anything Trump says. He's a complete nullity, which is what Pence was when Trump picked him up. His name even sounds like a kind of cattle feed.
That's just what Trump wants: a nobody who will agree with everything he says and fade into the background. It wouldn't surprise me to see Burgum put his water bottle on the floor one day.
Except Burgum's an actual self-made rich guy, not just a fuckup-heir to a fortune. Not sure TFG or Burgum could stand the contrast. Not saying Burgum invented a cure for cancer, but:
"After graduating from college in 1978 and earning an MBA two years later, he mortgaged inherited farmland in 1983 to invest in Great Plains Software in Fargo. Becoming its president in 1984, he grew Great Plains into a successful software company. Burgum sold the company to Microsoft for $1.1 billion in 2001."
Eh, I think it actually helps him. He's rich, which is also a plus in PAB's warped mind, plus they've been blowing A LOT of money on legal fees and such.
Here is the thing, and I am adamant on this point: in 2024, if you still believe and assert with a straight face that the 2020 presidential election was, pick yer term, stollen, rigged, compromised, whozywatzit, then you, my friend, do not get interviewed. Not on tv, not in newspapers, not even the New York Times. Because by your assertion, you have demonstrated yourself to be wholly without intellectual integrity, basic intelligence, or are just willfully misinformed. Therefore, anything ELSE on which you opine also must be considered in the light of this ignorance, and not given the platform that should by its journalistic remit, breadth, and reach seek to inform the public, not disinform or confuse it.
If legitimate journalistic media had done this three years ago -- refused tv air time, newspaper ink, or pixels to election deniers -- we could very well be living in a somewhat better world. The fact that rags like the NYT continue to posit these questions as though there is reasonable doubt remaining as to the legitimacy of that election serves only to promote that doubt, not extinguish it. And then that media must ask themselves why they would do such a thing. However, that level of self-reflection may be a bit too much to ask for.
I'm not sure how important the NYT is in affecting the beliefs of people who believe those things. If they even read it. Probably TV, cable and network, do a lot more. And you can't get at cable. And even more is done by social media and Internet blogs, which you can't get at either.
Yeah, I agree with you on most points. IMO, if network and cable news shows actually made a point of asking the "was 2020 rigged and stollen" question right up front to their guests, then proceeded to end the interview ON AIR when the guest's answer was some variant of "yes," I believe all those moments would create quite a stir on social media. "Ted Cruz gets thrown off Meet the Press!" "Watch JD Vance get his mic cut by Jake Tapper!" And that would have some impact, cause people love that shit.
It's a little surprising they haven't gone for the ratings such a confrontational attitude would create. It's possible Republicans would just stop showing up on those shows. Or maybe the corporate higher ups and owners prize the appearance of decorum more than ratings. The political class are after all their close cousins.
Vance rose to prominence by writing a book which explained his parents failures as a result of their dysfunctional personalities ignoring the influence of the media and culture. Guess what JD-you're just like them!
"Which Vance would admit if he wasn’t so desperate for the vice-presidential nomination on Trump’s ticket that he’d probably swallow and beg for more if that’s what Stupid Mussolini wants.".........chefs kiss dude.......
"in American democracy you let the voters decide."
Damn straight, twatwaffle. And that's exactly what happened. The voters did decide, and their decision was, Oh no, not this asshole again. About *your* guy. Sorry (not sorry) if they didn't decide the way you wanted.
"The idea that this sets off a sequence where Donald Trump becomes the dictator of America is completely preposterous."
--Vance, 2024.
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler."
--Vance, 2016.
Ta, Gary. JD is welcome to a rusty garden weasel of votes to go with his fun-size bag of salted rat dicks. Enjoy, JD.
JD Vance looks like if the Chucky doll grew up. Dude is 100% Uncanny Valley. It would totally not surprise me to see him have a Yul Brenner at the end of Westworld moment.
I don’t suppose ole Ross reminded Vance about the time he compared Trump to Hitler before decided to completely debase himself for political ambition?
I have a large and flexible vocabulary, and have studied the works of past masters of invective from Ambrose Bierce to Dorothy Parker, from Mark Twain to Henry Louis Mencken, and yet words fail me when trying to express my contempt and stomach-churning disgust at both Wuss Douchehat and Vance.
I still think that no matter how much Vance now backtracks and toadies, it will never be enough to erase in Trump's mind all the nasty things Vance said about him early on. Trump is plenty thin-skinned enough to hold a grudge that would nullify all of Vance's positives.
My money's on Burgum. I saw him on Hannity last night, and my God, he's perfect in that he's a fucking android. He's basically Mike Pence with a lot more facial creases: bland, anodyne, perfectly willing to drone talking points and accept anything Trump says. He's a complete nullity, which is what Pence was when Trump picked him up. His name even sounds like a kind of cattle feed.
That's just what Trump wants: a nobody who will agree with everything he says and fade into the background. It wouldn't surprise me to see Burgum put his water bottle on the floor one day.
Except Burgum's an actual self-made rich guy, not just a fuckup-heir to a fortune. Not sure TFG or Burgum could stand the contrast. Not saying Burgum invented a cure for cancer, but:
"After graduating from college in 1978 and earning an MBA two years later, he mortgaged inherited farmland in 1983 to invest in Great Plains Software in Fargo. Becoming its president in 1984, he grew Great Plains into a successful software company. Burgum sold the company to Microsoft for $1.1 billion in 2001."
Eh, I think it actually helps him. He's rich, which is also a plus in PAB's warped mind, plus they've been blowing A LOT of money on legal fees and such.
WHY DID THE NEW YORK TIMES FEEL THIS GUYS SHIT MOUTH BLABBERING NEEDED TO BE PUBLISHED???? JFC
That would be the same NYT that has Doubt That on their payroll.
Couldn't J.D. just fellate PAB in private and not let the rest of us have to witness his abject abasement on the regular?
I'm totally down with the salt mine solution though.
"we don’t run elections by indulging the paranoid fever dreams of JD Vance’s voters and JD Vance’s voters only."
Just you wait.
Here is the thing, and I am adamant on this point: in 2024, if you still believe and assert with a straight face that the 2020 presidential election was, pick yer term, stollen, rigged, compromised, whozywatzit, then you, my friend, do not get interviewed. Not on tv, not in newspapers, not even the New York Times. Because by your assertion, you have demonstrated yourself to be wholly without intellectual integrity, basic intelligence, or are just willfully misinformed. Therefore, anything ELSE on which you opine also must be considered in the light of this ignorance, and not given the platform that should by its journalistic remit, breadth, and reach seek to inform the public, not disinform or confuse it.
If legitimate journalistic media had done this three years ago -- refused tv air time, newspaper ink, or pixels to election deniers -- we could very well be living in a somewhat better world. The fact that rags like the NYT continue to posit these questions as though there is reasonable doubt remaining as to the legitimacy of that election serves only to promote that doubt, not extinguish it. And then that media must ask themselves why they would do such a thing. However, that level of self-reflection may be a bit too much to ask for.
I'm not sure how important the NYT is in affecting the beliefs of people who believe those things. If they even read it. Probably TV, cable and network, do a lot more. And you can't get at cable. And even more is done by social media and Internet blogs, which you can't get at either.
Yeah, I agree with you on most points. IMO, if network and cable news shows actually made a point of asking the "was 2020 rigged and stollen" question right up front to their guests, then proceeded to end the interview ON AIR when the guest's answer was some variant of "yes," I believe all those moments would create quite a stir on social media. "Ted Cruz gets thrown off Meet the Press!" "Watch JD Vance get his mic cut by Jake Tapper!" And that would have some impact, cause people love that shit.
It's a little surprising they haven't gone for the ratings such a confrontational attitude would create. It's possible Republicans would just stop showing up on those shows. Or maybe the corporate higher ups and owners prize the appearance of decorum more than ratings. The political class are after all their close cousins.
“He was using the constitutional procedures.”
Uh huh. Was January 6 a “constitutional procedure”?
Asshat Douthat is a Bill Maher favourite...' nuff said....
Jeebus. Birds of a filthy feather lock together.
And Maher is a Maureen Dowd favourite. The snake eats itself.
One hand jerking the other....
"...Trump is ... the best, expression of that frustration"
Later, Vance reflected on a limerick about a man from Nantucket as a beautiful expression of self-love.