I am nearing the end of 25 years' working with kids and families like this. Alt-ed, juvenile lock-up, adult (16-21 y.o.) lockup, sped case manager, and these stories about neglect of children never get any easier to read. Feh, this species. Homo nonsapiens.
Of course abusive/negligent parents do not seek help, they are afraid of what will happen to them. My parents were not an obvious shitshow like these people, they appeared perfectly nice. But they ignored any advice and pleas to get me help because they knew if I started talking to someone, bones would fly out of my mouth. So many people I was in support and therapy with later described the same. Of course, none of us had access to or an interest in guns. I do not believe licensing parents would do any good - my parents appeared perfect - but gun regulations stand a chance.
There is also a subsection of them that simply believe they are parenting appropriately, or at least: "This is the way *I* was raised and *I* turned out all right."
My own mother had 4 children in the space of 4 years. That kind of crowd would sap anyone's will to live, let alone parent. F'ing RCC.
We need no further proof of how terrible these parents are, or how they are precisely the right people to be the first held accountable for their child’s actions. Obviously sensing a guilty verdict was coming, or perhaps eager to experience prison, she even doubled down and told the jury “I’ve thought about this since and asked myself if I’d do anything differently, and I would not.” Nailed it, evidently. Gave a deadly weapon to a very troubled child who she mocked for begging for help, then said nothing about the gun when the school showed her the disturbingly violent drawings. She deserves more than 15 years. I do question the school officials choice to return the boy to class with access to his backpack. That was a mistake also. There were other options. First and foremost is you suspend him until he can be evaluated and deemed safe to resume public school. If drawing pictures of guns and bullets with the words “help me,” and “the thoughts won’t stop,” wasn’t a bright red flag which warranted removal from the school grounds, it should have been. Judgment is easy after the fact, and these parents clearly are responsible, but the school dropped the ball, imho.
For the MAGA take on this awful business, if you have the stomach, just check out Gateway Pundit. The right wing goblins there are unanimously on the side of the shooter's parents. Most of them blame the school system and the teachers; some even say this would never have happened if the kid had been home schooled. Wheeeeeee.
It never would have happened if all the other kids were home schooled, and Crumbley was the only student in an otherwise empty building. It’s MAGA lodge-ick.
Ethan Crumbley might not have turned out so bad, with a different mother. She, on the other hand, strikes one as pure evil. Was she angling to be the Orange Quisling's running mate?
This is why I support Planned Parenthood and NARAL. Every child should be wanted, and planned for. And even then things can sometimes get tricky. That's where government supported social services are necessary, which we support with our taxes. Taxes are the price we pay for a decent civilization
This is long overdue. We have prosecuted parents who buy their deadly drunk-driving kids alcohol. This should be no different with guns. This will be the most effective way to promote gun control, failing national legislation.
I always wonder why people like these have children. I mean, they clearly aren't interested in actually raising them, so what is it? Is it a status thing? Or is it like a new toy and then they grow bored with it?
I think a lot of people have children because they think that's what they're supposed to do, but they put very little thought into what that actually entails, and once that rugrat shows up, the reality hits them square in the face and then they end up taking it out on that kid for the rest of their lives in myriad ways, some active, like spanking or beating, and some passive, like neglect; both emotional and physical.
And this is one reason why the birth rate IS a lot lower in Millennials, and falling: Because many of us are the children of such parents, or we knew such parents, and we realized that parenting should be a decision. Not just "what you're supposed to do."
I couldn't have had kids even if I wanted them (broke uterus), but I made the decision to stay child free when I was 19, and married someone who was in agreement.
It’s a totally valid choice. I had planned not to have kids most of my life, but changed my mind in my 40’s. My wife is younger, and wanted kids. We love our son, and he’s loved and cared for and privileged. But it’s every bit as hard, exhausting and life-changing as people say. We had one, and that’s all. One was all I could personally muster. I always say the same thing to young couples, do NOT have kids unless you REALLY want them, are capable of raising them and are the right age for it. I enjoyed 25 years of adulthood and adventure until my son was born when I was 44. And I still reminisce about my child-free days of freedom. But our son is funny and smart and he will mow the lawn when he’s old enough. So there’s that. :)
It's the reason that I didn't have any kids until I was 30 years old, and even now I'm having to slog through all the old bullshit from my childhood in order to try to avoid fucking them up in the same ways I was. Lol
I am nearing the end of 25 years' working with kids and families like this. Alt-ed, juvenile lock-up, adult (16-21 y.o.) lockup, sped case manager, and these stories about neglect of children never get any easier to read. Feh, this species. Homo nonsapiens.
Of course abusive/negligent parents do not seek help, they are afraid of what will happen to them. My parents were not an obvious shitshow like these people, they appeared perfectly nice. But they ignored any advice and pleas to get me help because they knew if I started talking to someone, bones would fly out of my mouth. So many people I was in support and therapy with later described the same. Of course, none of us had access to or an interest in guns. I do not believe licensing parents would do any good - my parents appeared perfect - but gun regulations stand a chance.
There is also a subsection of them that simply believe they are parenting appropriately, or at least: "This is the way *I* was raised and *I* turned out all right."
My own mother had 4 children in the space of 4 years. That kind of crowd would sap anyone's will to live, let alone parent. F'ing RCC.
We need no further proof of how terrible these parents are, or how they are precisely the right people to be the first held accountable for their child’s actions. Obviously sensing a guilty verdict was coming, or perhaps eager to experience prison, she even doubled down and told the jury “I’ve thought about this since and asked myself if I’d do anything differently, and I would not.” Nailed it, evidently. Gave a deadly weapon to a very troubled child who she mocked for begging for help, then said nothing about the gun when the school showed her the disturbingly violent drawings. She deserves more than 15 years. I do question the school officials choice to return the boy to class with access to his backpack. That was a mistake also. There were other options. First and foremost is you suspend him until he can be evaluated and deemed safe to resume public school. If drawing pictures of guns and bullets with the words “help me,” and “the thoughts won’t stop,” wasn’t a bright red flag which warranted removal from the school grounds, it should have been. Judgment is easy after the fact, and these parents clearly are responsible, but the school dropped the ball, imho.
For the MAGA take on this awful business, if you have the stomach, just check out Gateway Pundit. The right wing goblins there are unanimously on the side of the shooter's parents. Most of them blame the school system and the teachers; some even say this would never have happened if the kid had been home schooled. Wheeeeeee.
It never would have happened if all the other kids were home schooled, and Crumbley was the only student in an otherwise empty building. It’s MAGA lodge-ick.
Ethan Crumbley might not have turned out so bad, with a different mother. She, on the other hand, strikes one as pure evil. Was she angling to be the Orange Quisling's running mate?
What a sad excuse for a mother. She's at least as responsible as he is for these deaths. She's lucky he didn't kill her.
Did this kid ever have a snowball's chance in hell at a normal life? I doubt it.
Maybe his sentence was too harsh, or inappropriate? Given his "upbringing"? Just a thought.
One almost thinks these parents were hoping he'd die by suicide with the gun they'd just bought him. Didn't quit work out for them now did it?
Wow. I expected to find some sort of issue like bullying or crappy teachers. Those parents are just fucked.
Bet they are the kind that buy into 'what about the rights of parents!' BS.
Good. Her shitty husband's trial is next month and I hope he's having kittens about the prospect of being in jail until he's sixty.
And being outed as a cuckold too.
And she deserves every last second of those 15 years.
And she deserves every last second of those 15 years.
This is why I support Planned Parenthood and NARAL. Every child should be wanted, and planned for. And even then things can sometimes get tricky. That's where government supported social services are necessary, which we support with our taxes. Taxes are the price we pay for a decent civilization
This is long overdue. We have prosecuted parents who buy their deadly drunk-driving kids alcohol. This should be no different with guns. This will be the most effective way to promote gun control, failing national legislation.
That poor kid never had a chance. Great work, Mommie Dearest.
I always wonder why people like these have children. I mean, they clearly aren't interested in actually raising them, so what is it? Is it a status thing? Or is it like a new toy and then they grow bored with it?
She said he was an “oopsie” baby. So daddy or one of her firefighter side-flings impregnated her. Abortion is better than child neglect or abuse.
I think a lot of people have children because they think that's what they're supposed to do, but they put very little thought into what that actually entails, and once that rugrat shows up, the reality hits them square in the face and then they end up taking it out on that kid for the rest of their lives in myriad ways, some active, like spanking or beating, and some passive, like neglect; both emotional and physical.
And this is one reason why the birth rate IS a lot lower in Millennials, and falling: Because many of us are the children of such parents, or we knew such parents, and we realized that parenting should be a decision. Not just "what you're supposed to do."
I couldn't have had kids even if I wanted them (broke uterus), but I made the decision to stay child free when I was 19, and married someone who was in agreement.
It’s a totally valid choice. I had planned not to have kids most of my life, but changed my mind in my 40’s. My wife is younger, and wanted kids. We love our son, and he’s loved and cared for and privileged. But it’s every bit as hard, exhausting and life-changing as people say. We had one, and that’s all. One was all I could personally muster. I always say the same thing to young couples, do NOT have kids unless you REALLY want them, are capable of raising them and are the right age for it. I enjoyed 25 years of adulthood and adventure until my son was born when I was 44. And I still reminisce about my child-free days of freedom. But our son is funny and smart and he will mow the lawn when he’s old enough. So there’s that. :)
It's the reason that I didn't have any kids until I was 30 years old, and even now I'm having to slog through all the old bullshit from my childhood in order to try to avoid fucking them up in the same ways I was. Lol
Apparently he was an "oopsie" so not planned.
And of course abortion is the devil, so go ahead and create a human and just ignore them, like an unwanted pet. Arseholes
What? You mean kids aren't like houseplants and aren't satisfied with water and bullshit? Who knew? 🤨
Yeah, post womb they don't give a shit...
I knew there was NO WAY I could be a fit parent, so I don't have kids. Not a difficult decision to make.
Fair