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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Dok. I spent three hours today on Zoom, and another hour on Microsoft Teams. The second Zoom was a meeting of the ongoing stigma collaborative, where, among other things, we were treated to a graph showing which people with HIV are most stigmatized, and which least. I piped up with lessons learned in harm reduction training; we meet people where they are and (try to) suspend automatic judgments that come from biases. It was appreciated.

The Teams meeting was our agency's Community Health group. When the leader asked if anyone had anything further to say, I mentioned it being the 70th anniversary of Brown.

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

This is a good place to remind people that one of Trump’s priorities for a second term is combatting “anti-white racism.”

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Bitter Scribe's avatar

A lot of people don't realize the extent to which the Brown decision drove people absolutely insane. ZOMG BLACK GUYS ARE GONNA SIT NEXT TO OUR WHITE GIRLS IN HIGH SCHOOL!!!! They immediately started screaming and haven't stopped since. Republican pols picked up on it, which is why we have "Southern strategy" and "welfare queens" and "crime in the streets" and all the rest of the depressing demagoguery.

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Whale Chowder's avatar

Fuck. Thanks, now I'm reminded that "welfare queens" is over 40 years old and have we learned anything since, really?

Fuck.

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

The only thing racists have learned is the Lee Atwater strategy: keep changing your code words.

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rawrtigerlily's avatar

Sadly, racists can't easily unlearn their racism, unless some extraordinary individual goes well out of their way to give these people the opportunity to KNOW someone of a different race and directly observe that they are actually a decent, hardworking human being.

And even then, half the people given that chance will still come to the conclusion that their "one black friend" is the exception to the rule, and the stereotypes still apply to every person of color they don't know.

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𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

"John Stokes, 92, called for history to be taught accurately, including the parts that might make some people uncomfortable..."

Rhonda Santis thinks otherwise, and made ignorance mandatory in Florida.

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

Is it even legal to teach Brown v Board in Florida or is the CRT or DEI or whatever new buzzword republicans have co-opted to scare rural whites?

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Higgs Boson's avatar

Maybe OT, maybe not, but FWIW, I'm going post up the SPLC's timeline of Confederate monuments again, simply to point out that more schools were named (or renamed) for Confederate figures in the decade following Brown V Board of Education, than had been named for them in the 90 years between Brown and the end of the Civil War. "Heritage not Hate" my fat liliy-white ass...

https://substack.com/profile/157180139-higgs-boson/note/c-56622602?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=2lkwyz

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Antifa Commander's avatar

Wow. Thanks, stolen!

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SethTriggs's avatar

Freedom isn't free, sadly And as the forces have been working for 70 years to roll back this specific case (whether through disinvestment, "Christian" segregation academies, and other ways of plausible discrimination.) We have to keep up the big fight.

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MorganX's avatar

"Reach one, teach one"; thanks, Seth.

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Underdawg23's avatar

I grew up in segregated Virginia which turned to massive resistance Virginia. I was in third grade when Brown v Board was decided. 9 years later I graduated from a DC high school. Half my tuition was paid by funds designed to protect white kids from intergrated classrooms.

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fawkedifiknow's avatar

Two memories I have of the atmosphere in Southern Redneckistan in the mid-1960's: I was driving through Georgia on the way to spring break in Daytona, Fl. On the highway billboards in multiple locations were the infamous "Impeach Earl Warren" signs. And, at one place we stopped for gasoline and probably to take a piss - it was a ramshackle dump of a place, before Inter-State highways - there were drinking fountains on the side of the building. One was labeled "whites only" and the other "coloreds". This was about 11 or 12 years after Brown and a couple years after the Civil Rights Act.

They wonder why they were considered backward hillbillies and xenophobic assholes. Correction: Are.

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Cryny's avatar

My family moved to rural NC from PA in the early '90s, and there was a gas station/convenience store down the road from us that had a pool table in the back. My dad went in one day with one of our neighbors who was a good friend of his, and Black, and asked if they could play a game of pool. The owner (he ran the register most of the time) told him he could, but the neighbor couldn't. Right to their faces. Our neighbor understood and just accepted it. My dad is a Republican and definitely a racist (though he doesn't think so), but he was livid. This was in the fucking '90s.

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Thesaurus Wrecks's avatar

Donald Trump told us schools are too woke and should be defunded. So we took our kids outta school and used their college savings to fund Trump’s legal defenses. Take that, libs!

MAGA

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Villago Delenda Est 🇺🇦's avatar

Dok, thank you so much for that second paragraph. It explains perfectly what the "religious right" is all about.

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𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

Somewhere along the way, they found time to leverage the "godless commie" angle to their advantage, and defaced our currency with "In God We Trust" (and godded up the Pledge of Allegiance while they were at it.)

Very informative read here, including some burning acid from Thomas Jefferson:

https://publications.kon.org/urc//aclu/kamcza.html

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Pub Option's avatar

Were the plaintiffs in Brown and Loving chosen for their names? In contrast Obergefell sounds like a German losing his balance.

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Antifa Commander's avatar

The German name for that trend of going over Niagara Falls in a barrel.

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fair_n_hite_451's avatar

Google translate suggests that would be "Herbstwasserfass dumm" ;)

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The Wanderer's avatar

"Vhere ist Ober?"

"He haz gefell."

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

Man, I remember when Kamala just absolutely DESTROYED Biden in the debates on that busing issue. It's nice and all that they're friends now, but dang what a line.

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Tony Seybert's avatar

I supported Harris in the primaries. But I was not impressed with her when she brought up Biden’s 40-year-old opinions on busing.

Aside from that, she’s pretty awesome. She would make a great president.

And that’s why all her critics are as vague as possible when it comes time to actually support their lazy, predictable “ugh! Kamala Harris! Can you imagine her as president? What a disaster!” talking point.

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Aardvark's avatar

It speaks to Biden's character that he still made her VP.

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oscarphile's avatar

"A VP that isn't a cringing taintlick? How would that even work? We need a VP who knows he'll be stomped to death by a crazed mob if he pisses me off."

--- The GOP

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SethTriggs's avatar

That impressed the hell out of me, as a Kamala Harris primary supporter.

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MorganX's avatar

Oh hell yes. Same!!

I tried telling folks "She is a ROCK. STAR."

Maybe that night got it through their minds.

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Formerly disgruntled in Oregon's avatar

Me too! Go Joe, and let’s go Kamala!

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SayItWithWookies's avatar

"And now, for an opposing view, Justice Clarence Thomas..."

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

Who benefitted from desegregation and affirmative action but now wants to destroy all of it. He is the patron saint of “pull up the ladder that I climbed to get here.”

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MorganX's avatar

💀

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Bobathonic's avatar

I was a bused Florida yoot. First for elementary and then high school. I don't know if it made any difference.

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SkeptiKC's avatar

It is so thoroughly and entirely humbling to recognize that Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas is not quite ten years older than I am.

For whatever it's worth I've spent quite a bit of time contemplating that fact.

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Cliff Hendroval's avatar

I was shocked to realize that Ruby Bridges, the little girl in Rockwell's painting "The Problem We All Live With", is only four years older than I am.

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dave in texas's avatar

Brown v. Board of Education, the Texas Observer (where Molly Ivins cut her journalistic teeth), and me. All products of 1954.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Et moi aussi.

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The Wanderer's avatar

So many years . . .

(Yeah, the Brown decision is a few years older than I)

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