President Biden threatened on Thursday to condition future support for Israel on how it addresses his concerns about civilian casualties and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, attempting for the first time to leverage American aid to influence the conduct of the war against Hamas.
During an evidently tense 30-minute call with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, Mr. Biden went further than ever before in pressing for change in the military operation that has inflamed many Americans and others around the world. But the White House stopped short of directly saying the president would halt arms supplies or impose conditions for their use, as fellow Democrats have urged him to do.
The problems of Israel and Palestine are decades in the making. Biden can't single handedly fix the mideast or completely reverse US-Israeli foreign relations. Can he do more? Sure, but asking this one president to do what no president has ever accomplished before under much more favorable conditions is a bit much.
"NO LABELS is abandoning efforts to create a “unity ticket” to win the White House + plans to say Monday it won’t pursue a White House campaign. NL contacted 30 potential candidates, according to people familiar."
So, somebody clued them in that there's not a lot of "middle ground" between, "Let's work on a few of America's problems," and "We're going to kill all of you."
It's actually pretty sad to realise the country is so divided a shallow and opportunistic political grift to promote the polite right couldn't succeed.
So, I just got an email from the Biden-Harris Campaign. It opens with, "Mercury is in retrograde, which, according to our astrology app, means all things communication feel like they’re off-kilter. While we can’t do much about the planetary mayhem, we can help you express yourself clearly through your wardrobe."
Okay, I'm not someone who thinks astrology is demonic, but I do think it's stupid. It's especially irksome since the Democrats are supposed to be the party that supports science. Possibly the only thing less likely to appeal to me is an offer of Official Biden-Harris Mayonnaise. (I hate the stuff, passionately. I call it "the Devil's Condiment".)
How about something that ties into the eclipse next week? "The sun will disappear for a few minutes Monday, but America will slide deeper into darkness if Trump is reelected..."
And yes, I know, there are people who take astrology seriously. I ain't one of them.
The problem with astrology is they had to update their shit every time a new planet was discovered. And yet, they always forget to include Ceres when prognosticating my day. The fly in the ointment, as it were. On the plus side, they still recognize the influence of Pluto, despite some astronomical committee angering the gods by bad-mouthing that PLANET.
BREAKING: NY Attorney General filing seeks to ensure the financial strength of the company that posted Donald Trump's $175 million bond in civil fraud case.
They are questioning if the guy who put up the bond has the money.
I don't get how this bond thing works. Does that company actually have to transfer money or just promise to pay money if certain conditions occur? If money is actually transferred, their solvency is irrelevant.
I understand the guy who put up the bond also owns a shady bank in a Caribbean tax haven. So determining the provenance of the funding will be...challenging. And possibly very, very, interesting (cue Arte Johnson GIF).
But the assets held by a business he owns is another thing altogether.
If that business does not have sufficient assets to cover the, probably, defaulted bond it is not a sure thing that the owner will step in and cover the shortage.
In fact, considering the people involved, it is much more certain that the insurer will simply declare bancruptcy and everyone will skate.
I will bet you anything that a LOT of Drumpf's supporters are unwittingly funding that bond through the subprime loans they got from Mr. Hankey's company to buy cars. That's THEIR money that made Mr. Hankey a billionaire.
There's a sucker born every minute, and apparently a sucker *re*-born every minute too.
Sheesh. Like I just want to yell HEY YOU MURDEROUS ASSHOLES STOP BEING A BUNCH OF MURDEROUS ASSHOLES FOR FUCKS SAKE. AND YES, IT'S YOU BEING THE MURDEROUS ASSHOLES IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER GUYS
I actually found it to be amazingly civil, considering the topic; the depth of feeling; and the fact that it's a topic we haven't discussed much (intentionally), so the feelings are pent-up.
Oh, so you like donut-crumb dregs in your coffee? Is that what you're saying? Why don't you just go ahead and proclaim the virtues of 𝑪𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒅 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒔, while you're at it?????!!??
Just now, via NYTIMES:
President Biden threatened on Thursday to condition future support for Israel on how it addresses his concerns about civilian casualties and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, attempting for the first time to leverage American aid to influence the conduct of the war against Hamas.
During an evidently tense 30-minute call with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, Mr. Biden went further than ever before in pressing for change in the military operation that has inflamed many Americans and others around the world. But the White House stopped short of directly saying the president would halt arms supplies or impose conditions for their use, as fellow Democrats have urged him to do.
Ok my comment got eaten so here goes again.
The problems of Israel and Palestine are decades in the making. Biden can't single handedly fix the mideast or completely reverse US-Israeli foreign relations. Can he do more? Sure, but asking this one president to do what no president has ever accomplished before under much more favorable conditions is a bit much.
So Joe told Bibi, "I'm going to turn this car around right now if you don't behave yourself." And Bibi just smirked.
Can we send Bibi and PAB on a one-way trip to Pluto?
I'm watching this WonkTV event, and think that Doocy should be sent to Pluto, along with the Orange Quisling and Netanhayu.
I would definitely donate to help fund that trip.
Why do you hate Pluto?
Add our buddy Vova.
How about the Sun? We haven’t had a manned mission to the Sun yet.
Yes, Dookie should fuck off into the Sun fer' sure
We can watch them disappear!
Only if Elmo drives.
If he drives, he'll miss and end up in alpha centur.....
No, you're right. Let him drive.
Not Mine....
😹
"NO LABELS is abandoning efforts to create a “unity ticket” to win the White House + plans to say Monday it won’t pursue a White House campaign. NL contacted 30 potential candidates, according to people familiar."
https://x.com/KThomasDC/status/1775951494082146631?s=20
In other words; NO HOPE.
Good.
That means "No Labels" is as dead as LIEberman.
Nooooo I was hoping they would nominate the corpse of Senator Lieberman
No, I would still expect it to do something obstructive and infuriating. Block I-95, for instance.
Depending on where on I-95, no one would notice.
Polling showed it under performing.
So, somebody clued them in that there's not a lot of "middle ground" between, "Let's work on a few of America's problems," and "We're going to kill all of you."
Amazing.
It's actually pretty sad to realise the country is so divided a shallow and opportunistic political grift to promote the polite right couldn't succeed.
America, America. Whatst hast thoust becomest?
So 30 "fuck off, wankers" was enough to get them to realize their planned voter blockade was useless?
So, I just got an email from the Biden-Harris Campaign. It opens with, "Mercury is in retrograde, which, according to our astrology app, means all things communication feel like they’re off-kilter. While we can’t do much about the planetary mayhem, we can help you express yourself clearly through your wardrobe."
Okay, I'm not someone who thinks astrology is demonic, but I do think it's stupid. It's especially irksome since the Democrats are supposed to be the party that supports science. Possibly the only thing less likely to appeal to me is an offer of Official Biden-Harris Mayonnaise. (I hate the stuff, passionately. I call it "the Devil's Condiment".)
How about something that ties into the eclipse next week? "The sun will disappear for a few minutes Monday, but America will slide deeper into darkness if Trump is reelected..."
And yes, I know, there are people who take astrology seriously. I ain't one of them.
I little humor is ok.
If they intended it as humor, they didn’t do a good job of making it clear.
The problem with astrology is they had to update their shit every time a new planet was discovered. And yet, they always forget to include Ceres when prognosticating my day. The fly in the ointment, as it were. On the plus side, they still recognize the influence of Pluto, despite some astronomical committee angering the gods by bad-mouthing that PLANET.
Memo to Biden-Harris: Don't forget the /s on your e-mails.
I suspect they intended that intro to be tongue-in-cheek.
So this is right out then . . .
https://www.clams.lol/
/runs away screaming
OT and fun, happy news:
https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lindell-2667695358/
"Lindell went on to say he had lost $20 million in credit since August."
Loudmouth dullard loses his money.
I doubt he had that much money to lose. He's a chronic liar.
Consequences have come to call.
I wonder if there was ever any thought in his mind that this was ever a possibility of happening
Mind and thoughts not in evidence.
at least when he's homeless, he can make a pretty epic pillow and blanket fort under a bridge
He might as well have given it to me...
I wonder if Roodles will let Mikey MyPillow share his refrigerator box. Roodles commandeered a prime spot under I-95 near Newark, NJ ...
Mr. Lindell; astonished to meet Mr. Cause and Mr. Effect, and even more astonished to find that they know each other, go way back together in fact.
BREAKING: NY Attorney General filing seeks to ensure the financial strength of the company that posted Donald Trump's $175 million bond in civil fraud case.
They are questioning if the guy who put up the bond has the money.
https://x.com/MSNBC/status/1775943008770195680?s=20
I don't get how this bond thing works. Does that company actually have to transfer money or just promise to pay money if certain conditions occur? If money is actually transferred, their solvency is irrelevant.
They promise to pay up, but they still have to show they can actually do that and do it immediately. They don't actually need to put cash in a box.
Sounds like the deal might be falling apart though. Competent bond companies don't screw up the paperwork on a 9 figure deal.
I'll bet this "insurer's" portfolio of "assets" includes several used car lots and a chain of Payday loan offices.
Maybe even some laundromats!
I understand the guy who put up the bond also owns a shady bank in a Caribbean tax haven. So determining the provenance of the funding will be...challenging. And possibly very, very, interesting (cue Arte Johnson GIF).
ooo, you old!
Put up or shaddup.
He's an incredibly shady con-man with Russian mob connections, so, sure, we can trust him!
Have to trust. Other option involve Boris, standing over there with car battery.
I'm OK with Turmp facing that.
Only the best people.
He's a *perfect* MAGA republican!
Literally.
Last I read he is worth billions. Are those billions like the orange moron's, like they don't exist?
His personal worth is one thing.
But the assets held by a business he owns is another thing altogether.
If that business does not have sufficient assets to cover the, probably, defaulted bond it is not a sure thing that the owner will step in and cover the shortage.
In fact, considering the people involved, it is much more certain that the insurer will simply declare bancruptcy and everyone will skate.
Then create another con company under another name and start all over again.
I will bet you anything that a LOT of Drumpf's supporters are unwittingly funding that bond through the subprime loans they got from Mr. Hankey's company to buy cars. That's THEIR money that made Mr. Hankey a billionaire.
There's a sucker born every minute, and apparently a sucker *re*-born every minute too.
Lovin' this FO phase for TFG
Couldn't have happened to a nicer PAB.
That's always a relevant question when Trump is involved.
From the front page of today's New York Times:
"ANXIETY, BEDTIME AND MATING: HOW ANIMALS MAY REACT TO THE ECLIPSE"
Never mind "animals" - that's exactly how I reacted to being in my 20's and early 30's.
It's like that old Jimmy Buffett song, "Why Don't We Watch the Eclipse and Screw"
None too soon. The previous post was starting to get contentious.
Sheesh. Like I just want to yell HEY YOU MURDEROUS ASSHOLES STOP BEING A BUNCH OF MURDEROUS ASSHOLES FOR FUCKS SAKE. AND YES, IT'S YOU BEING THE MURDEROUS ASSHOLES IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER GUYS
I figured it would.
It couldn't not.
Probably my fault for referencing Leon Trotsky. At least, I'd like to think it's all about me.
Also, the Voight-Kampff test has banned the question about "your mother" to anyone named "Leon." Question about tortoises still allowed.
I fled as soon as this one opened up.
I actually found it to be amazingly civil, considering the topic; the depth of feeling; and the fact that it's a topic we haven't discussed much (intentionally), so the feelings are pent-up.
But yeah, I stepped out.
Is this about pineapple???
Yeah, never mind. *sigh*
Yes, important. Me? Nope, not today, will not help.
Personally, I don't care whether people dunk their donuts in their coffee or not. It's still a free country, dammit, despite the GOP's best efforts.
Oh, so you like donut-crumb dregs in your coffee? Is that what you're saying? Why don't you just go ahead and proclaim the virtues of 𝑪𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒅 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒔, while you're at it?????!!??
were spoons not invented for donut crumb dregs?
"go ahead and proclaim the virtues of 𝑪𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒅 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒎s"
YOU MONSTER!!!!!
Hey man, I was trying to keep it 𝒄𝒊𝒗𝒊𝒍.
*flings cream pie*
Way to take the high road.
< -- smoove like that
Real clean outhouse is still an outhouse.
That's not going to be a tidy, much less sanitary, discussion. Though it needs to be had, I think.
I had to step away.
It's just gotten a little too dark in there for me at the moment.
Oh, so that is why it is quiet here. I skipped the thread because I would be yelling at people.
Anyone care to dance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFBOC6lQoo
Ugh. These kids nowadays...
"I'll turn this car around RIGHT NOW if you don't stop it!"
Possibly because it is.