An envelope containing white powder was found Wednesday morning at the New York State Supreme Courthouse in Lower Manhattan, officials said. The court building, at 60 Centre Street, contains offices belonging to Justice Arthur F. Engoron, the judge who oversaw former President Donald J. Trump’s civil fraud trial.
Police officers responded to a 911 call at 9:29 a.m. regarding the suspicious powder. A court officer had opened an envelope, and white powder fell onto his pants, the police said.
No injuries were reported, and the building was not evacuated. The police said that the Fire Department had responded to the discovery of the powder and that the investigation continued.
Meanwhile Tyler Boebert has been arrested after going on a one man crime spree. Lauren Boebert's 18 year old son, the father of her first grandchild, is facing at least 20 charges, which involve document theft.
Ancient Proverb: It is said unto all, that when apples fall from trees, many do not roll very far away. And are easily eaten by woodland creatures. These are dumbarse apples. Smart apples roll like fuk to get away as fast as they can. -The Greeks. (I think)
NEW YORK (Reuters) -Donald Trump is unable to post a full bond while he appeals a $454.2 million judgment that a judge imposed in New York state's civil fraud case against him, and wants instead to secure a $100 million bond, his lawyers said on Wednesday
And says he shouldn't have to pay the 83 million bond for the E Jean Carroll appeal because he's "so rich." You can't make this shit up, no one would believe it!
This is concerning. Mitch McConnell, although cruel and evil, is not stupid. I'm curious what godawful shitstorm is coming to make him willing to step out of a position of power.
Kneejerk Party reacts: We love crime. Biden is just trying to divide us between the criminals and non-criminals! I stand with the hostages of the criminal justice system.
"BREAKING: A pair of new filings to the appellate court in NY from both Trump & the NY AG make it clear now that Trump doesn’t have close to the amount of cash he needs to post to stay collection of the judgement in his fraud case."
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the meteoric rise in bitcoin price in the last month? It's up 45%. Think there is any correlation with the exposure that New York real estate bank loans are all fraudulent according to CNBC, and of course Trump.
I kind of want to have a nominal amount invested the next time it collapses %4,789 percent in a day just as a lottery ticket, but I know the only actual use is crime and would feel icky about that.
Totally. But it is very telling if the two are correlated. All that fraudulent laundred money PAB attracted to NY real estate hitting the fastest road out of town. 45% in like 3 weeks. LOL! 🤣
Wow, how strange, a guy worth what the media keeps telling us is several billion, cannot get anyone to loan him a fraction of that, knowing he can make up the repayment?
Wow, it's as though he was full of shit and the media bought it, because they can't do their fucking jobs to verify anything.
I suddenly recall "52 Pick-Up" (1986) starring Roy Scheider as a guy who's being blackmailed over an affair, and the blackmailers think he's rolling in cash. Turns out he only has $52 grand in liquid assets (thus the name of the movie)..... Story by Elmore Leonard, directed by John Frankenheimer. It's actually not bad.....
Yep--there's very little of value there, he's deep in debt on all of it, and only a fool would lend him the money and expect to get it back (though a big bribe in the form of a "loan" isn't out of the question). Yet the media took it at face value that he was worth billions, because why would the guy who lies about everything else lie about this?
Yep, let's say he (like say, Musk, or Bezos) has the bulk of his worth in non-liquid forms like stock or properties--it would still be a snap to get credit for them, because a lender would know they have cash flow and collateral to cover the amount they owe. The fact that Trump cannot get this is pretty telling.
You can see it in how quick Musk was able to put together the 40 billion for Twitter. He may have very little liquid, but he had the ridiculously inflated Tesla stock price and a few Saudi connections he hasn’t pissed off yet
This is also likely why Trump fought so hard against his tax returns being released--most likely they have a lot of loan payments that would indicate he's completely leveraged, and has a negative net worth.
This is where I remind everyone that there was a ceasefire in place on the morning of October 7. Which Ham-ass violated. Like they violated 15 ceasefires previously.
"Hamas’s political leaders have insisted, at least publicly, that any deal to release the more than 100 hostages still being held in Gaza is dependent on a permanent cease-fire and the withdrawal of Israeli troops. Israel has said it will not compromise on its goal of toppling Hamas in Gaza, suggesting it will not agree to a long-term truce."
They want a long-term end to the bloodshed, not a couple of bomb-free weeks to exchange prisoners before going back to mowing the grass for another five months.
Mitch had a chance to do the right thing when Trump was impeached the second time, could have been his Colonel "What have I done?" Nicholson moment, but of course being Mitch he balked, remained a coward, and is now leaving power anyway, leaving the country worse off than he found it.
And on top of it all, the person that replaces him--both the new Kentucky Senator and the new GOP leader--will be even worse.
Speaking of crime, since Tyler Jay Boebert was just arrested for his crime wave across Colorado... I'm assuming that according to the transitive theory as espoused Jonathan Turley wrt to the genetics of politicians, this proves that Lauren Boebert is also a criminal. Isn't that how it works?
He's kind of giving his mother a good excuse to bail out of an embarrassing re-election loss. She can now say "gotta keep my dumbfuck kid out of jail, I'm out of this race".
OT: I was mistaken. Idaho will not be executing Thomas Creech today, though not for lack of trying. They spent 58 minutes trying to establish an IV line but were unsuccessful. I guess we'll go through this whole pointless exercise again in a few months.
I remember being on maneuvers and having medics trying to put an IV line in me by the light of red-filtered flashlights. That was fucking agonizing, and they weren't even trying to murder me. Damn.
Under conditions like those the medics were working from a strictly tactile perspective, palpating a likely vessel, tying it off, and then upon feeling the appointed vessel plump up a bit more beneath a gloved finger pierced the vein and thanked gawd for the immediate backflash that heralded advancement of the IV cath, taping off the site, and dialing the drip rate.
Experienced digits can "feel" out the entire process blindfolded.
I'm not angry at them-I certainly couldn't have done it, and they eventually succeeded-but it was agonizing nonetheless. And the idea of that happening in an attempt to kill me?
Now, the idiot medic on a reserve deployment who missed my vein in BROAD DAYLIGHT and inserted an IV drip sub-q....
𝐒𝐮𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐏𝐨𝐰𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐅𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐭 𝐂𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐖𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐞 𝐇𝐚𝐬 𝐎𝐟𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬
An envelope containing white powder was found Wednesday morning at the New York State Supreme Courthouse in Lower Manhattan, officials said. The court building, at 60 Centre Street, contains offices belonging to Justice Arthur F. Engoron, the judge who oversaw former President Donald J. Trump’s civil fraud trial.
Police officers responded to a 911 call at 9:29 a.m. regarding the suspicious powder. A court officer had opened an envelope, and white powder fell onto his pants, the police said.
No injuries were reported, and the building was not evacuated. The police said that the Fire Department had responded to the discovery of the powder and that the investigation continued.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/nyregion/judge-engoron-powder-trump.html
Meanwhile Tyler Boebert has been arrested after going on a one man crime spree. Lauren Boebert's 18 year old son, the father of her first grandchild, is facing at least 20 charges, which involve document theft.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/lauren-boeberts-son-arrested-charges-vehicle-trespass-property-thefts-rcna140867
What are the odds the "documents" he stole were IDs because he's too young to buy alcohol legally?
The bits I've read make it sound like a bit more than trying to buy some beer.
Ancient Proverb: It is said unto all, that when apples fall from trees, many do not roll very far away. And are easily eaten by woodland creatures. These are dumbarse apples. Smart apples roll like fuk to get away as fast as they can. -The Greeks. (I think)
"I believe Abraham Lincoln said that!" - R. Zimmerman, Hibbing MN
Apparently he learned all about taking $$$ that didn't belong to him from his mother and the political party she represents.
Twunt scum.
Kids got a future in GOP politics.
Future Senator, I'm sure. Or Federal judge.
Minimum as a RW grifte .. I mean influencer.
HAHAHAHAHAHA NO
NEW YORK (Reuters) -Donald Trump is unable to post a full bond while he appeals a $454.2 million judgment that a judge imposed in New York state's civil fraud case against him, and wants instead to secure a $100 million bond, his lawyers said on Wednesday
And says he shouldn't have to pay the 83 million bond for the E Jean Carroll appeal because he's "so rich." You can't make this shit up, no one would believe it!
I love this for him!
He won't have the credit to rent an apartment. Irony alert
It's a shame that the vast majority of his soon to be seized assets are are so damned tacky.
They improve some as soon as the name comes down, though.
Kind of underscores the fact that he's been inflating his portfolio all along, doesn't it?
I will gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamberder today . . .
I am sure Judge Engoron will treat this difficulty with the appropriate level of sympathy.
His ruling will just prove his bias!
I been saying, the fuckers broke.
The Shart Of The Deal
Yes but for the AG, he adds in free golf on Sunday mornings, AND poached eggs on muffins!
Put a wheel boot on his airplane.
Put a wheel boot up Trump's ass. I'm sure he won't need to evict Lindsey Graham or Ted Cruz to make room.
Yeah, he's done. Seize Merde Lego.
Whar Mcturtle article? Is it just taking time to summarize all his life’s evil? I could see that taking awhile
OT: https://www.joemygod.com/2024/02/breaking-mcconnell-to-step-down-as-senate-leader/
NNNOOO! Now they got Mitch. Mitch!
This is concerning. Mitch McConnell, although cruel and evil, is not stupid. I'm curious what godawful shitstorm is coming to make him willing to step out of a position of power.
First they came for the Mike McCarthy, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a weak half-speaker toady to Donald Trump.
Then they came for George Santos, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a lying, fraudulent toady to Donald Trump.
Then they came for the Ronna Romney McDaniel , and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an incompetent party chair subservient to Donald Trump.
Then they came for Mitch McConnel—and there was no one left to speak for an ancient turtle.
Calm yourself my child. There will always be another Republican. Who is worse.
The good. Young. Etc.
Josh Haw Haw rushes in to gloat!
…then runs away
“I like criminals who don’t get caught.”
-Trump
Proof that he hates himself!!
Kneejerk Party reacts: We love crime. Biden is just trying to divide us between the criminals and non-criminals! I stand with the hostages of the criminal justice system.
Comer Fudd...
...called out by a reporter....
to his fucking face.
And the reporter just won't give up.
https://www.rawstory.com/james-comer-no-evidence/
That pig sure can squeal.
They make a helluva fuss when cornered.
"BREAKING: A pair of new filings to the appellate court in NY from both Trump & the NY AG make it clear now that Trump doesn’t have close to the amount of cash he needs to post to stay collection of the judgement in his fraud case."
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/ny-ag-trump-doesnt-have-the-cash-to-stay-judgment-pending-appeal
Womp to the womp power.
This bad news for Biden.
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the meteoric rise in bitcoin price in the last month? It's up 45%. Think there is any correlation with the exposure that New York real estate bank loans are all fraudulent according to CNBC, and of course Trump.
I kind of want to have a nominal amount invested the next time it collapses %4,789 percent in a day just as a lottery ticket, but I know the only actual use is crime and would feel icky about that.
Totally. But it is very telling if the two are correlated. All that fraudulent laundred money PAB attracted to NY real estate hitting the fastest road out of town. 45% in like 3 weeks. LOL! 🤣
Motion for FAFO is denied
Must be hard facing consequences for the first time in your life at 78
Sure.
OTOH, fuck him.
Wow, how strange, a guy worth what the media keeps telling us is several billion, cannot get anyone to loan him a fraction of that, knowing he can make up the repayment?
Wow, it's as though he was full of shit and the media bought it, because they can't do their fucking jobs to verify anything.
If even a fraction of what he owns wasn't already carrying a dozen mortgages, he could post that $450 easy.
But, when all is said and done, it's all leveraged just about to the point of zero value.
All hail the King of Debt, LOL.
I suddenly recall "52 Pick-Up" (1986) starring Roy Scheider as a guy who's being blackmailed over an affair, and the blackmailers think he's rolling in cash. Turns out he only has $52 grand in liquid assets (thus the name of the movie)..... Story by Elmore Leonard, directed by John Frankenheimer. It's actually not bad.....
Scheider was always good, even if I didn't love the rest of the movie around him.
I like actors who can pull off looking like the "everyman."
Yep--there's very little of value there, he's deep in debt on all of it, and only a fool would lend him the money and expect to get it back (though a big bribe in the form of a "loan" isn't out of the question). Yet the media took it at face value that he was worth billions, because why would the guy who lies about everything else lie about this?
Yep, let's say he (like say, Musk, or Bezos) has the bulk of his worth in non-liquid forms like stock or properties--it would still be a snap to get credit for them, because a lender would know they have cash flow and collateral to cover the amount they owe. The fact that Trump cannot get this is pretty telling.
You can see it in how quick Musk was able to put together the 40 billion for Twitter. He may have very little liquid, but he had the ridiculously inflated Tesla stock price and a few Saudi connections he hasn’t pissed off yet
This is also likely why Trump fought so hard against his tax returns being released--most likely they have a lot of loan payments that would indicate he's completely leveraged, and has a negative net worth.
And that's not counting the $88 mil E Jean $$$$$.
Oops!
his lawyers are claiming he would have to sell assets to come up with the required amount
Well...if you sell assets and you WIN, then you can just buy other assets, no?
How does buying things work?
“WE’RE WAITING” gif here.
Welp
Get to selling
Sometimes you land or boardwalk and have to sell some hotels to pay down a debt
So Donny, Like most American kids, you want money for that GI Joe Advanced base with Rail Gun, you are going to have to sell your train set.
Boohoo.
Time for some FO!
well this is embarrassing for all the Muslims that voted uncommitted in Michigan ...
https://x.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1762908223772696699?s=20
This is where I remind everyone that there was a ceasefire in place on the morning of October 7. Which Ham-ass violated. Like they violated 15 ceasefires previously.
And I see that the tankie troll from the Great White North is spouting his usual bullshit.
*reads article*
"Hamas’s political leaders have insisted, at least publicly, that any deal to release the more than 100 hostages still being held in Gaza is dependent on a permanent cease-fire and the withdrawal of Israeli troops. Israel has said it will not compromise on its goal of toppling Hamas in Gaza, suggesting it will not agree to a long-term truce."
They want a long-term end to the bloodshed, not a couple of bomb-free weeks to exchange prisoners before going back to mowing the grass for another five months.
Nah, they will blame President Biden.
Yeah, I pretty much get the sense that the only thing that would truly make them happy is the US invading Israel.
This time for sure!
𝑆𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑟 𝑀𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝐽𝑜ℎ𝑛𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑖𝑠 𝑓𝑙𝑜𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑡-𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑝𝑔𝑎𝑝 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑜𝑓𝑓 𝑎 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑠ℎ𝑢𝑡𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑘, 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑝𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑎 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑡ℎ𝑠.
𝐻𝑖𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑎𝑙 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑒𝑥𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎 𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑘, 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ 8, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑤𝑜 𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑘𝑠, 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑙 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ 22. 𝐼𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛 𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑖𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 12 𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑢𝑎𝑙 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑠.
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑙𝑎𝑤𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑛𝑒𝑔𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡𝑟𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑒𝑥𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑎 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐻𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑒, 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑔𝑔𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑠 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑑 𝑅𝑒𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑑𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠.
They don't want to look assholes for shutting down the government yet can't bring themselves to bite the bullet and fully fund.
Fucking losers.
A very good question is "you knew this deadline was coming for months, what could you not do in those months that you think you can do in two weeks?"
Mitch had a chance to do the right thing when Trump was impeached the second time, could have been his Colonel "What have I done?" Nicholson moment, but of course being Mitch he balked, remained a coward, and is now leaving power anyway, leaving the country worse off than he found it.
And on top of it all, the person that replaces him--both the new Kentucky Senator and the new GOP leader--will be even worse.
Speaking of crime, since Tyler Jay Boebert was just arrested for his crime wave across Colorado... I'm assuming that according to the transitive theory as espoused Jonathan Turley wrt to the genetics of politicians, this proves that Lauren Boebert is also a criminal. Isn't that how it works?
Lock her up!
Her ex-hubby was charged with…well, a bunch of crimes…for attacking his son and 𝘵𝘳𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘦𝘦𝘵𝘩.
Oh, and stomping around the house with a gun after that.
She and her ex also have rap sheets.
He's kind of giving his mother a good excuse to bail out of an embarrassing re-election loss. She can now say "gotta keep my dumbfuck kid out of jail, I'm out of this race".
I trust a President who can not only eat an ice cream cone but can do so with style.
So, Boebert’s son?
OT: I was mistaken. Idaho will not be executing Thomas Creech today, though not for lack of trying. They spent 58 minutes trying to establish an IV line but were unsuccessful. I guess we'll go through this whole pointless exercise again in a few months.
Are we sure that wasn't a 58 minute attempt to exsanguinate him?
I remember being on maneuvers and having medics trying to put an IV line in me by the light of red-filtered flashlights. That was fucking agonizing, and they weren't even trying to murder me. Damn.
Under conditions like those the medics were working from a strictly tactile perspective, palpating a likely vessel, tying it off, and then upon feeling the appointed vessel plump up a bit more beneath a gloved finger pierced the vein and thanked gawd for the immediate backflash that heralded advancement of the IV cath, taping off the site, and dialing the drip rate.
Experienced digits can "feel" out the entire process blindfolded.
I'm not angry at them-I certainly couldn't have done it, and they eventually succeeded-but it was agonizing nonetheless. And the idea of that happening in an attempt to kill me?
Now, the idiot medic on a reserve deployment who missed my vein in BROAD DAYLIGHT and inserted an IV drip sub-q....
Cruel, but unfortunately not unusual.
I get hooked up for platelet donations in just around a minute. And I have to survive the procedure.....
Let me guess - everyone with actual training in phlebotomy are refusing to have anything to with state-sponsored killing.
"58 minutes trying to establish an IV line "
Oh, good grief. Having to endure these idiots' poor attempts at execution is a fate worse than death.
I'm just grateful that all healthcare workers refuse to be involved.
(And veterinary care workers, too. They can put an IV line in a cat.)