Guys please stop responding to the pinned comment, to my knowledge there's no way to collapse the comments and it makes it so we have to scroll halfway down the page to see new comments. Thank you.
Click on the little line coming out of Dok's bottom up there, and it will collapse the pinned comment. At least in the browser. I have never used the SS app, so I have no idea how it works.
I always thought that the comments collapsed when someone mentioned canned clams. Must be wrong, but strings from bottoms is getting a little weird. Day drinking may help me.
Breaking news: The University of Minnesota has reached a deal with protesters to disband a pro-Palestinian encampment that's been on campus for three days. I don't know at this time what protesters will get in return, but at least cooler heads are prevailing.
My bugbear is chicken on pizza...don't know why, but it is...And the only fruit that works on pizza is pineapple, but you gotta have the rest of it covered with MEAT
Our local here in Atlanta had a "Fish Tease" specialty pie with shrimp, scallops, pollock and Fontina, but it rarely got ordered and they eventually dropped it from the menu.
wouldn't it be a legume since you're actually eating the seeds? usually the nitpicky definition of fruit is when you eat the fleshy body surrounding the seeds and legumes when you eat the seed itself. But then green beans would be a fruit..hmmm. ..But corn evolved from something much closer to a grain...so confusing...squash, peppers, eggplant, avocados all fruits...LOL...I guess vegetables are just the green stuff...All the cruciferous stuff and tubers
Have tried _mushroom_ ketchup (the original meaning of the word)! I'd say it's better than the tomato stuff. But suspect it'd be hella expensive from a store.
Some people just have to keep pushing and pushing and pushing and ruin everything for the rest of us, don't they? NO! NO WATERMELON ON YOUR PIZZA! IT MAKES THE CRUST TOO SOGGY!!1!11111!!
Note to MT Greene: If you're gonna wave the Bible around, you might want to pay attention to the bits about adultery. The Bible condemns that pretty robustly. Leviticus, specifically, has some pretty rancid comments about adultery in it.
And if that's a wee bit too OT for ya, there's always the 10 Commandments, specifically number 7: Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery. For someone who cats around on her husband, you're hardly one to be holding up the Bible and pointing to meaningless garbage about the Jews murdering Christ.
Smart analysis. Also, I'd missed MTG and Gaetz's opposition on ... Biblical grounds. Bookmarking that for follow-up for when they return to the Hill next week. Thx for posting!
On the one hand, it’s important to be informed and a positive force for equality and inclusion. On the other, I’m still naive about why so many people target and vilify Jewish people and black people and Asian people and gay people and other people. Why? I find these pro-Palestine versus pro-Israel camps on college campuses to be very distressing. I don’t know which group is “right,” and I suspect it’s all very complicated. But shouldn’t the US policy be that all people deserve respect, peace and liberty, and the freedom to believe, associate and worship how they please. But if the protests are designed to pressure Joe Biden and the US to finally bring peace to the Middle East, is that realistic? I’m sure it’s easy for me to feel like a neutral outside observer horrified by all of it, without personal skin in the game. I’m sure if I were a Jewish person or a Palestinian, I’d feel very differently. Obliterating people or entire communities of people you disagree with is not the answer, but the phenomenon happens again and again and has always been one of the brutal truths about how fragile peace between humans really is. Brokering peace, and a humanitarian path forward for Palestinians and Israelis should be the policy, it seems to me, but again I’m sure that’s simplistic and uninformed. I’m just grateful every day that my family and I don’t live in that kind of pain.
This supposed example of anti-Semitism is particularly objectionable: "Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations." It's bleedin' obvious that some Jewish Americans ARE more loyal to Israel than to the interests of America. That's a criticism of the individuals concerned; nothing to do with "hatred toward Jews" in general.
“could convict Christians of antisemitism for believing the gospel that says Jesus was handed over to Herod to be crucified by the Jews”? She doesn't know Herod from Pilate, because of course she has never read the Bible.
Spot on true. She has no more read the Bible than Donald Trump has read the U.S. Constitution - which he hasn't. I'm certain she's ignorant, too, that the passages in the Gospels which remove the blame for Jesus's execution from the Romans and transfer it to the Jews are purely political, to sanitise the new religion for the Roman authorities. By the time the Gospels were written it had become clear that Christianity wasn't going to make any real headway among the Jews, and its missionaries would have to go to the pagan Greco-Roman world - that is, the Empire - for their converts. Paul of Tarsus was the perfect man to handle that transition, as a free Roman citizen whose parents had also been Roman citizens, though of Jewish descent. (His various letters to the infant churches were written before even the earliest Gospel.)
The simple facts are that Jesus was tried by the Roman Procurator, condemned by him, and sentenced to die by the Roman method of execution, carried out by Roman soldiers. The furious crowd that supposedly roared "Crucify him!" was unlikely to have been Jewish, because it was the day Passover was to begin, at sundown, and every Jew worthy of the name would have been at home, preparing for the most sacred feast of the Jewish year. Any Jews in that crowd would have been the lowest dregs of their people. And despite the way the Gospels depict Pilate, he was in fact a man who could have condemned a dozen Galilean preachers to the cross in the same week and slept peacefully every night - hard, arrogant, reckless and scornful. The recorded facts of his career bear that out. Had he wanted to free Jesus, he would have done it, and no obstreperous mob would have stopped him. He had six cohorts of Roman infantry at his command to chop any mob whatsoever into dog meat, and the real Pontius Pilate, not the indecisive caricature the Gospels give us, was the man to do just that.
He did do it, on more than one occasion, ending with the massacre of a few thousand Samaritans on their sacred mountain, an outrage which may have gotten him recalled to Rome in disgrace at last.
Or, putting it in a nutshell, the Gospels ain't even close to factual history.
“The Gospel itself would meet the definition of antisemitism under the terms of this bill!” and that the Bible makes very clear that all Jews remain guilty for the crucifixion, any fool knows that.” - Jesus Christ. 🤦🏻♀️ I do, for real, wish to thank Gaetz and Greene for reminding us here, in case anyone somehow forgot, that the reactionary, white nationalist, Christian right are NO friends to the Jews. Them attempting to coopt the campus protests to suit their own agenda is pure, unadulterated, grade A bullshit. They brought up the original blood libel right in the nick of time. So, thanks guys. ::tip of the hat:: Truly.
MT Cranium will have to wait for another loose Chinese weather balloon to get herself to be relevant again. Or is it 'caravans at the border' season again? Maybe they have a wheel to spin with the words MEXICANS / JEWS / CHINESE / MUSLIMS / BLACKS on it to get their latest talking points.
MTG was the first openly anti-Jewish Member of Congress when she used the words "Jewish space lasers," a letter perfect anti-Jewish trope. I hate her for that.
The words she used were "space lasers owned by the Rothschilds" and then she denied it was against the Jews because she had never heard anybody say the Rothschilds were Jewish.
That is such a bullshit definition, ignoring entirely that less than half of Israelis are Semites while Palestinians and almost all of the surrounding nationalities are REAL Semites.
It's based on what the word actually means, as coined by antisemites. The attempt to deny what it means is an antisemitic tactoc of suppressing relevant language. It also denies that Jews are "real" Jews based on their appearance. Please don't buy into this Khazar bullshit, it's a long-debunked antisemitic conspiracy.
Yeah, a hundred or so Central Asian people converted to Judaism, and that means Ashkenazi Jews could only be their descendants and should therefore go back to Poland. Right. It's about the same level of historical truthiness as the claim that, since Hitler's grandma once worked for a Jewish family, Hitler could only have been Jewish.
The Khazar bullshit IS bullshit, and motivated by antisemitism.
Semite is a language group. 55% of Israeli Jews are Sephardic or Mizrahi, which means they came from MENA countries, Afghanistan, Ethiopia or Turkey. The other 45% are Ashkenazi.
Lots of Palestinians have blond hair and blue eyes. Do you think it would be acceptable to tell them they're not Semitic because they got blond hair and blue eyes? Do you think they'd find it offensive? You're entitled to the same consideration
Don't be absurd. The Palestinians are the most rapidly growing ethnic group in recorded history. If the Israelis really wanted to wipe them out, they would be more competent at it.
Intent, however, is. Israelis are quite competent at doing what they want to do. Extincting the Palestinians is obviously not something they want to do. Palestinians are simply projecting, since their leaders have been intending to wipe out the Jews for over a century, but simply are not competent at it.
The Palestinian growth rate (doubling time under 25 years) has been steady since the creation of Israel, under Labor and Likud governments alike. After all, if they have six or ten children and no means to support any of them, the world's charity will be enlisted to keep them fed. That is why there are over eight times as many people in Gaza as there were in the aftermath of 1948. Ordinarily, from 2000 to 2500 die in the Strip every month, and twice as many are born. In the past seven months, the death rate has averaged 5000 a month, so for the first time in decades the population is down, by a fraction of a percent. This is not an extinction-level event.
A thought: What if a Democrat wrote a bill that would deny federal funding to cities or states that permit Neo-nazi, Proud Boys, or other explicitly hateful groups?
Surely no Republican would take issue with that? (Yes, sarcasm.)
I was going to note that the vote HR6090 passed with only 187 Republican votes, with 21 voting against and 8 "not voting" - so they would not have had enough votes to pass this bill without ( some ) Democratic votes. As it is, this bill is not really necessary - the ACLU has stated that there is already a law preventing federal funds going to ANY entity violating anti-discrimination laws that include religious groups.
So, this bill is just another Republican "messaging bill" meant to mollify their idiot voters, and I'm kinda ashamed that 133 Democrats fell for it. Of course, they may have been worried about their re-election chances if they voted against it - 70 Democrats had the balls to stand up against the Republican political ploy
Regarding the Holocaust Remembrance standard, it seems to me that there is a lot of tension between these examples:
* Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
* Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
It asserts that Jewish individuals collectively have a right to assert themselves as a collective, which they do by moral participation in the nation of Israel, but there is no individual or collective responsibility for the State where that right is being asserted.
[NB this is far from the only place in the world where individual responsibility for collective behavior is being evaded ... ie, White responsibility for American racism, so this should be taken as an application of a "content neutral" objection. Also NB, Jewish individuals participanting in demonstrations are acknowledging and acting on their collective responsibility.]
Reminder: As always, behave yourselves! BEHAVE YOURSELVES! Don't make Yr Editrix turn off the comments, please.
I just want to say, in regard to all these comments, that you guys crack me up.
Behave?
"Molly: Are you bad, Johnny? Have you been bad with girls?
Johnny: No… I just don’t know exactly what that word “good” means." - A Summer Place (1959)
I am going to need a working definition of BEHAVE, supported by at least three studies, and maybe an 8x10 glossy or two.
Where's Madden and the telestrator when you need them?
(Yes, I know John Madden isn't currently available.)
With circles and arrows on the back of each one?
How about an image of a beehive?
Guys please stop responding to the pinned comment, to my knowledge there's no way to collapse the comments and it makes it so we have to scroll halfway down the page to see new comments. Thank you.
just click the little line below my comment. On a computer, at least. Mobile devices, I dunno.
Works on my iphone cellphone telephone.
If you have an Android phone, you have to take it back to the dealer and have it restored to its factory settings.
What? You don't feel and hear the CRUNCH when you get collapsed?
Click on the little line coming out of Dok's bottom up there, and it will collapse the pinned comment. At least in the browser. I have never used the SS app, so I have no idea how it works.
Collapsing the bottom line seems like poor crapitalism.
I saw that, LOL
Oh god THANK YOU.
"...the little line coming out of Dok's bottom up there..."
<giggles>
*refuses to rule out Rule 34 on this*
I was referring to Dok's bottom line in the most chaste terms possible. Nothing financial about it, even. Everybody, leave Dok's bottom alone!
Forget that, I'm thinking of starting a newsletter.
Click on the long line starting with Dok's avatar. That should collapse the comments.
I always thought that the comments collapsed when someone mentioned canned clams. Must be wrong, but strings from bottoms is getting a little weird. Day drinking may help me.
FWIW I think you guys have been covering Israel-Palestine issues pretty well.
Breaking news: The University of Minnesota has reached a deal with protesters to disband a pro-Palestinian encampment that's been on campus for three days. I don't know at this time what protesters will get in return, but at least cooler heads are prevailing.
I'm hearing ice cream is causing cooler heads.
What can’t ice cream do?
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Not cheese heads? Oops, wrong state.
I can just see the entire venue being overrun by legions of "cooler heads." They all say "Igloo" on them.
Or “Yeti” if they’re fancy.
Oh, cripes. Get me a latte.
Ok but if you start talking about putting fruit on pizza I cannot be responsible for my words.
figs
My bugbear is chicken on pizza...don't know why, but it is...And the only fruit that works on pizza is pineapple, but you gotta have the rest of it covered with MEAT
You all know, of course, what MY favorite pizza topic is -- it's like shouting "fire!" in a crowded theater --- CANNED CLAMS.
All seafood is good on pizza!
Our local here in Atlanta had a "Fish Tease" specialty pie with shrimp, scallops, pollock and Fontina, but it rarely got ordered and they eventually dropped it from the menu.
Say that after trying seaweed on your pizza.
How is that even legal?!? Hopefully, some RWNJ, I mean, republican congress critter with mark up a bill making seafood on pizzas illegal.
RWNJ sounds like a Myers Briggs personality type.
𝕸𝖔𝖓𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖗!
Tomatoes are a fruit. Tomatoe Ketchup comes from them.
So Reagan was wrong on multiple levels when saying that ketchup counts as a vegetable!
Reagan was wrong on multiple levels all the time.
So, we're putting fruit on fries?
That sounds wrong.
I like brown or dijon mustard on my fries.
Elitist!
Even worse, I like mayo on fries.
I know. I even have bugs fly up my nose.
Ok, but they're a veggie-esque fruit, yes that's a thing.
Botanically, corn is also a fruit.
Since we put corn syrup on our pancakes.
wouldn't it be a legume since you're actually eating the seeds? usually the nitpicky definition of fruit is when you eat the fleshy body surrounding the seeds and legumes when you eat the seed itself. But then green beans would be a fruit..hmmm. ..But corn evolved from something much closer to a grain...so confusing...squash, peppers, eggplant, avocados all fruits...LOL...I guess vegetables are just the green stuff...All the cruciferous stuff and tubers
Dammit, WHAT IS CORN?
Corn is a grass with unusually sized reproductive parts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11r9cy3/evolution_of_corn_in_the_last_few_thousand_years/
whatever the plant on the left is is m guess...You see what I mean about looking like a grain
Wait...now that I think about it corn IS a grain. LOL I'd forgot that apparently
Have you tried ketchup made from corn?
Have tried _mushroom_ ketchup (the original meaning of the word)! I'd say it's better than the tomato stuff. But suspect it'd be hella expensive from a store.
Can you get magic mushroom ketchup?
I have, but I can't remember hominy times.
I can remember hominy hominy hominy...
And don't get me started on Chicago-style pizza.
You mean lasagna?
I like Jon Stewart's description of Chicago-style pizza: "Tomato sauce quiche."
We call it "Italian Pot Pies".
I thought it was a casserole.
Fruit? Like tomatoes?
What the fuck do you have against a good sliced fig with reduced balsamic vinegar and red onions pizza, you monster!?
Sliced fig, balsamic reduction AND… arugula!
WHERE"S MY WATERMELON AND APPLE PIZZA
Some people just have to keep pushing and pushing and pushing and ruin everything for the rest of us, don't they? NO! NO WATERMELON ON YOUR PIZZA! IT MAKES THE CRUST TOO SOGGY!!1!11111!!
Red Green
https://youtu.be/Orjbwv8H9zM?si=-D0haIhAmHXI-8h8
I was expecting Canadians in overalls.
That was not that.
I've slipped up before but not on this issue since I stay clear of it.
No matter how clear you stay, you *will* need hip boots eventually.
My blood is so heavily fortified with THC right now that I promise to be almost good.
You can't live with RWAHs and be sober about it.
The "H" is for happy.
THC = Teh Happy Chemical
Fine, whatever, you're not my Real Dad.
Not my real Docktor either, but he still makes sense.
I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!
We're gonna make mom turn this car around RIGHT THIS INSTANT.
Note to MT Greene: If you're gonna wave the Bible around, you might want to pay attention to the bits about adultery. The Bible condemns that pretty robustly. Leviticus, specifically, has some pretty rancid comments about adultery in it.
And if that's a wee bit too OT for ya, there's always the 10 Commandments, specifically number 7: Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery. For someone who cats around on her husband, you're hardly one to be holding up the Bible and pointing to meaningless garbage about the Jews murdering Christ.
Ahem.
Idiots........what happened to freeze peach??????
Smart analysis. Also, I'd missed MTG and Gaetz's opposition on ... Biblical grounds. Bookmarking that for follow-up for when they return to the Hill next week. Thx for posting!
On the one hand, it’s important to be informed and a positive force for equality and inclusion. On the other, I’m still naive about why so many people target and vilify Jewish people and black people and Asian people and gay people and other people. Why? I find these pro-Palestine versus pro-Israel camps on college campuses to be very distressing. I don’t know which group is “right,” and I suspect it’s all very complicated. But shouldn’t the US policy be that all people deserve respect, peace and liberty, and the freedom to believe, associate and worship how they please. But if the protests are designed to pressure Joe Biden and the US to finally bring peace to the Middle East, is that realistic? I’m sure it’s easy for me to feel like a neutral outside observer horrified by all of it, without personal skin in the game. I’m sure if I were a Jewish person or a Palestinian, I’d feel very differently. Obliterating people or entire communities of people you disagree with is not the answer, but the phenomenon happens again and again and has always been one of the brutal truths about how fragile peace between humans really is. Brokering peace, and a humanitarian path forward for Palestinians and Israelis should be the policy, it seems to me, but again I’m sure that’s simplistic and uninformed. I’m just grateful every day that my family and I don’t live in that kind of pain.
This supposed example of anti-Semitism is particularly objectionable: "Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations." It's bleedin' obvious that some Jewish Americans ARE more loyal to Israel than to the interests of America. That's a criticism of the individuals concerned; nothing to do with "hatred toward Jews" in general.
Cool story, antisemite
The Federal Government already has the right and the responsibility to defund universities for excluding Jewish people.
This bill will not pass the Senate.
It was designed as a show vote.
Must have been a slow news day.
“could convict Christians of antisemitism for believing the gospel that says Jesus was handed over to Herod to be crucified by the Jews”? She doesn't know Herod from Pilate, because of course she has never read the Bible.
Spot on true. She has no more read the Bible than Donald Trump has read the U.S. Constitution - which he hasn't. I'm certain she's ignorant, too, that the passages in the Gospels which remove the blame for Jesus's execution from the Romans and transfer it to the Jews are purely political, to sanitise the new religion for the Roman authorities. By the time the Gospels were written it had become clear that Christianity wasn't going to make any real headway among the Jews, and its missionaries would have to go to the pagan Greco-Roman world - that is, the Empire - for their converts. Paul of Tarsus was the perfect man to handle that transition, as a free Roman citizen whose parents had also been Roman citizens, though of Jewish descent. (His various letters to the infant churches were written before even the earliest Gospel.)
The simple facts are that Jesus was tried by the Roman Procurator, condemned by him, and sentenced to die by the Roman method of execution, carried out by Roman soldiers. The furious crowd that supposedly roared "Crucify him!" was unlikely to have been Jewish, because it was the day Passover was to begin, at sundown, and every Jew worthy of the name would have been at home, preparing for the most sacred feast of the Jewish year. Any Jews in that crowd would have been the lowest dregs of their people. And despite the way the Gospels depict Pilate, he was in fact a man who could have condemned a dozen Galilean preachers to the cross in the same week and slept peacefully every night - hard, arrogant, reckless and scornful. The recorded facts of his career bear that out. Had he wanted to free Jesus, he would have done it, and no obstreperous mob would have stopped him. He had six cohorts of Roman infantry at his command to chop any mob whatsoever into dog meat, and the real Pontius Pilate, not the indecisive caricature the Gospels give us, was the man to do just that.
He did do it, on more than one occasion, ending with the massacre of a few thousand Samaritans on their sacred mountain, an outrage which may have gotten him recalled to Rome in disgrace at last.
Or, putting it in a nutshell, the Gospels ain't even close to factual history.
“The Gospel itself would meet the definition of antisemitism under the terms of this bill!” and that the Bible makes very clear that all Jews remain guilty for the crucifixion, any fool knows that.” - Jesus Christ. 🤦🏻♀️ I do, for real, wish to thank Gaetz and Greene for reminding us here, in case anyone somehow forgot, that the reactionary, white nationalist, Christian right are NO friends to the Jews. Them attempting to coopt the campus protests to suit their own agenda is pure, unadulterated, grade A bullshit. They brought up the original blood libel right in the nick of time. So, thanks guys. ::tip of the hat:: Truly.
Defending herself against charges of hate by repeating a central tenant of that hate was ... special?
And then she did not even deicide libel right.
I thought the ONE THING she was good at was hate.
She’s not very bright.
MT Cranium will have to wait for another loose Chinese weather balloon to get herself to be relevant again. Or is it 'caravans at the border' season again? Maybe they have a wheel to spin with the words MEXICANS / JEWS / CHINESE / MUSLIMS / BLACKS on it to get their latest talking points.
MTG was the first openly anti-Jewish Member of Congress when she used the words "Jewish space lasers," a letter perfect anti-Jewish trope. I hate her for that.
The words she used were "space lasers owned by the Rothschilds" and then she denied it was against the Jews because she had never heard anybody say the Rothschilds were Jewish.
That is such a bullshit definition, ignoring entirely that less than half of Israelis are Semites while Palestinians and almost all of the surrounding nationalities are REAL Semites.
It's based on what the word actually means, as coined by antisemites. The attempt to deny what it means is an antisemitic tactoc of suppressing relevant language. It also denies that Jews are "real" Jews based on their appearance. Please don't buy into this Khazar bullshit, it's a long-debunked antisemitic conspiracy.
Tne Khazar bullshit, as you put it, has historical roots.
Yeah, a hundred or so Central Asian people converted to Judaism, and that means Ashkenazi Jews could only be their descendants and should therefore go back to Poland. Right. It's about the same level of historical truthiness as the claim that, since Hitler's grandma once worked for a Jewish family, Hitler could only have been Jewish.
The Khazar bullshit IS bullshit, and motivated by antisemitism.
We should just call people who hate Jews "haters" or "Jew haters".
Semite is a language group. 55% of Israeli Jews are Sephardic or Mizrahi, which means they came from MENA countries, Afghanistan, Ethiopia or Turkey. The other 45% are Ashkenazi.
Can we lose the Semite bullshit? "Antisemitism" is a term invented by German Jew haters in the 1870s that was less vulgar than "Jew hating."
I am as Jewish as all get out, but not "Semitic."My family are from the north of Europe. We have blonde hair and blue eyes.
This is a word that has outlived it's usefulness." Anti-Jewish or Judeophobic are fine. The Semite business has to go.
Lots of Palestinians have blond hair and blue eyes. Do you think it would be acceptable to tell them they're not Semitic because they got blond hair and blue eyes? Do you think they'd find it offensive? You're entitled to the same consideration
Lots of fossilized words don't really make etymological sense, but gratuitous attempts to change the language just don't work.
Israel's government has been flirting for decades with giving up righteousness by openly embracing making "Greater Israel" 𝘗𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘳𝘦𝘪𝘯.
Like here is some Jew hate! See how that is more clear than anti-Semetic?
That's Israel's government hate. You're painting with too broad a brush.
Don't be absurd. The Palestinians are the most rapidly growing ethnic group in recorded history. If the Israelis really wanted to wipe them out, they would be more competent at it.
Competence is not part of the definition of genocide.
Intent, however, is. Israelis are quite competent at doing what they want to do. Extincting the Palestinians is obviously not something they want to do. Palestinians are simply projecting, since their leaders have been intending to wipe out the Jews for over a century, but simply are not competent at it.
Which terrifies Likud.
The Palestinian growth rate (doubling time under 25 years) has been steady since the creation of Israel, under Labor and Likud governments alike. After all, if they have six or ten children and no means to support any of them, the world's charity will be enlisted to keep them fed. That is why there are over eight times as many people in Gaza as there were in the aftermath of 1948. Ordinarily, from 2000 to 2500 die in the Strip every month, and twice as many are born. In the past seven months, the death rate has averaged 5000 a month, so for the first time in decades the population is down, by a fraction of a percent. This is not an extinction-level event.
Vilago: Not true!
A thought: What if a Democrat wrote a bill that would deny federal funding to cities or states that permit Neo-nazi, Proud Boys, or other explicitly hateful groups?
Surely no Republican would take issue with that? (Yes, sarcasm.)
Just the other day Kaitlin Collins shoved that crap back up JD Vance's ass.
I was going to note that the vote HR6090 passed with only 187 Republican votes, with 21 voting against and 8 "not voting" - so they would not have had enough votes to pass this bill without ( some ) Democratic votes. As it is, this bill is not really necessary - the ACLU has stated that there is already a law preventing federal funds going to ANY entity violating anti-discrimination laws that include religious groups.
So, this bill is just another Republican "messaging bill" meant to mollify their idiot voters, and I'm kinda ashamed that 133 Democrats fell for it. Of course, they may have been worried about their re-election chances if they voted against it - 70 Democrats had the balls to stand up against the Republican political ploy
Regarding the Holocaust Remembrance standard, it seems to me that there is a lot of tension between these examples:
* Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
* Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
It asserts that Jewish individuals collectively have a right to assert themselves as a collective, which they do by moral participation in the nation of Israel, but there is no individual or collective responsibility for the State where that right is being asserted.
[NB this is far from the only place in the world where individual responsibility for collective behavior is being evaded ... ie, White responsibility for American racism, so this should be taken as an application of a "content neutral" objection. Also NB, Jewish individuals participanting in demonstrations are acknowledging and acting on their collective responsibility.]
Especially if you live in an entirely different country.