Like Ben Carson , Mike Huckabee is going to tell you a few secrets that Big Pharma doesn't want you to know. No, seriously! That's how he's making money these days, and it's all because he wants to be president and definitely not because Huck knows a good grift when he sees one. The
I get my Sri Lanka cinnamon at a local herb store, where I can buy great organic herbs. For blood pressure, eat your broccoli and drink beet juice (which tastes even better with ginger root).
Abortion saves lives. Yes, some *people (It's not only women that get pregnant) suffer mental issues after but to pretend that this is all that happens and that the majority of people who abort aren't happy with their decision is nothing short of willfully ignoring fact.
As for the health of the fetus...What about all the pregnancies that are ended due to fetal defect? Or the ones that are ended because the pregnant person cannot raise the kid? Because of rape or abuse? All of those are better for the pregnancy than going to term and suffering.
You're so stuck on abortion being bad that you can't see where it does good. If you want to stay that then you do you. Keep your personal opinions in your own life. Leave my rights alone.
Fetal defect? Just because you would off yourself if you weren't perfect, doesn't mean all babies that will have problems don't deserve to have a chance at life. Everyone has something to contribute, even if it's a person that is born severely handicapped, and unable to understand others. Those deserve the chance to exist if only to remind us to be compassionate to our fellow humans.
Can't raise the kid? Adoption.
Rape or abuse? It's not the baby's fault. The mother should be getting proper counseling about her issues concerning the very bad situation she went through. There are plenty of people that was conceived in rape that have become successful and productive people. Suffering isn't a good enough excuse for murder.
I won't say no to an abortion where the child puts the life of the mother at risk, that would fit under self-defense. I'm also not looking to force the law to acknowledge life at conception. I just find it a shame people think feeling comfortable in their life trumps the right of another to live.
Fetal defect? Just because you would off yourself if you weren't perfect, doesn't mean all babies that will have problems don't deserve to have a chance at life.
What about fetuses without brains? Or fetuses whose lungs/hearts don't develop to function well enough to sustain life? Do you think that these fall under "not perfect" too?Are we obligated to let these fetuses suffer because you think it's shallow?
Can't raise the kid? Adoption.
Yes, let's sump more kids into the already over-crowded foster care system so they can be abused, not cared for and then dumped the moment they turned 18. Do actually educate yourself before you spout "solutions."
Rape or abuse? It's not the baby's fault. The mother should be getting proper counseling about her issues concerning the very bad situation she went through.
It's not the pregnant person's fault either. Why should they have to suffer because you project non-factual feelings onto tissue?
By the way, you're engaging in RAMPANT word abuse here. A baby is born. Nobody aborts babies. Further, being pregnant does NOT make one a mother.
Suffering isn't a good enough excuse for murder.
Can't murder something that isn't alive. Know what an early pregnancy is? Not alive.
I won't say no to an abortion where the child puts the life of the mother at risk, that would fit under self-defense.
It's ALL self-defense. EVERY pregnancy threatens a person's life--You can't get around that when you have something leeching off your very body.
I just find it a shame people think feeling comfortable in their life trumps the right of another to live.
"Comfort" is a deliberate and gross purposeful misconstruing of the reasons people abort.
There isn't a single anti-abortion argument based on plain, truthful fact. That should tell you something.
You haven't given one good reason TO abort. You used to be a lump of tissue in your mother's belly. Lucky for you, your mother chose to let that lump of tissue you claim has no life grow until it became something you would want to claim as something that has life. All of your reasons are wholly based on convenience and lack of responsibility, both in society and personally.
Oh, and 'Why shouldn't they have to suffer'. Protip, The woman was raped. She already suffers. She needs to be helped with her suffering, not the fact she got pregnant.
Every pregnancy threatens a person's life? I'm gonna just discard that based on the actual FACTS that people come to full term with no complications EVERY DAY. Thousands of times a day in fact. Even people in secluded tribes without any modern medical care have mothers that didn't end up in a risky situation due to pregnancy.
A fertilized embryo has all the information it needs to become an adult. All of it. All it needs is food and shelter. Guess what, you need food and shelter NOW. So... you're not alive? Bacteria is a single celled organism. It is classified as alive. So... Bacteria is alive but a fertilized embryo isn't. I know what the "Law" says. It doesn't acknowledge a human until after birth. I don't agree with that, because it just doesn't make sense.
I do get there are tons of horror stories about children in foster homes or waiting for adoption. Couldn't that be blamed on our society not taking responsibility for those that have been left without parents, wether the parents couldn't take care of them financially, or through the parents being jailed or dead. What happened to the orphanages that was run by people who care? They are all gone, probably due to government making regulations that just doesn't make sense, ones that sound good for the moment or a specific instance, but have terrible ramifications down the road. I personally want to adopt. Actually I want to have my own children, and if they aren't twins, adopt a kid so they can grow up as adopted twins (since I am a twin myself).
Is it really so disgusting and reprehensible idea to give everyone a chance, even if it's a poor one?
Is it your body? No? Then your opinion on whether or not the reason is "good" means Fuck-all.
. You used to be a lump of tissue in your mother's belly. Lucky for you, your mother chose to let that lump of tissue you claim has no life grow until it became something you would want to claim as something that has life.
My "mother" didn't want me. Neither did my paternal DNA donor. They didn't "choose" to "let me grow;" they were blackmailed into it by my grandparents. They lost custody of me when I was 15 months old and said grandparents got me where I was then abused in the name of religion for 19 years til I left and they disowned me.
Don't go presuming that you know enough about perfect strangers to use their lives for your agenda. We're real people with real lives and you cheapen that when you pretend we're talking points.
Oh, and 'Why shouldn't they have to suffer'. Protip, The woman was raped. She already suffers. She needs to be helped with her suffering, not the fact she got pregnant.
That's not your decision to make unless it's your body. The PERSON (again, not all people who get pregnant are women) who got raped decides what they need, not anyone else except MAYBE their doctor.
Every pregnancy threatens a person's life? I'm gonna just discard that based on the actual FACTS that people come to full term with no complications EVERY DAY. Thousands of times a day in fact.
And that's yet another example of why you shouldn't be making these decisions for other people. The fact that a person carried a pregnancy without complications doesn't mean that they weren't in danger; it means they got lucky and that danger didn't turn catastrophic.
Have you ever BEEN pregnant? Try talking to those of us who have; we can tell you all about it.
A fertilized embryo has all the information it needs to become an adult. All of it. All it needs is food and shelter.
And development, and time, and a lot of luck, and the CONSENT of the person it gets all this from...
Guess what, you need food and shelter NOW. So... you're not alive?
I have a lot of things a fertilized embryo does not. A brain, organs, bodily functions, bodily fluids...You know, the things that make someone alive?
Further, if a fertilized embryo has "everything" it needs but "food and shelter" why do 75-80% of pregnancies miscarry before the second trimester? Methinks you're not being totally honest here...
I know what the "Law" says. It doesn't acknowledge a human until after birth. I don't agree with that, because it just doesn't make sense.
Not true. It doesn't give a human RIGHTS til birth. Even then, there is absolutely no situation wherein a human has a right to another human's body so even if, as you seem to desire, a fetus were given rights before birth you couldn't make abortion illegal without giving them special privileges.
Is it really so disgusting and reprehensible idea to give everyone a chance, even if it's a poor one?
Yes. It is utterly immoral and reprehensible to birth a child that you know will go on to suffer when you could prevent that suffering by abortion. A pregnancy loses nothing by being aborted. It never had a life, or expectations, or rights, or all the other bullshit forced birthers project onto it. It's a developing clump of tissue. Stopping that development deprives it off nothing.
Also, I would just like to point out that I point blank talked about fetuses that have not developed necessary body parts to live and yet you insist that I "haven't given one good reason to abort."
So in your mind a short life and painful death for a baby, massive unnecessary physical pain/effort for the pregnant person and massive unnecessary emotional trauma for both the parents is "not a good reason to abort."
In other words you're so wrapped up in your ideology that you can't admit that there ARE good reasons to abort at all. You are a perfect example of why abortion has to stay legally protected and safe: You're so caught up in your own fee-fees on the matter that real people and their real experiences have stopped registering.
Death isn't the only remedy for suffering. And since when has a biological male become pregnant? I'm leaving you alone in your confusion. And human rights aren't government given, they are natural. Something given by the government can be taken by a vote and a stroke of the pen. But no stroke of the pen will ever make denying the chance at a full life out of convenience right.
Abortion is only legal for health reasons or fetal defect at the point where a fetus would die were it aborted. An early pregnancy is not alive. It does not have the organs, functions or brain to be alive.
Further, who are you to decide what is and isn't a solution to a problem that isn't yours and you know nothing about?
And since when has a biological male become pregnant?
Biological male!=man. There are these people who are trans or gender-fluid, maybe you've heard of them? If not I'll gladly explain it to you.
And human rights aren't government given, they are natural.
Not in the US they aren't. They're given by the Constitution.
Something given by the government can be taken by a vote and a stroke of the pen.
You would know, as you heartily advocate doing just that. Yet you claim that human rights, such as autonomy, are natural. So why are you contradicting yourself by attempting to remove them?
But no stroke of the pen will ever make denying the chance at a full life out of convenience right.
"Convenience" is a gross and deliberate misconstruing of why people abort. It's a bald-faced LIE. And it's one of the millions of lies anti-abortionists use to pretend that their grandstanding is something more than a child's tempertantrum at the fact that perfect strangers are daring to live by their own morals instead of yours.
I'm done responding to you. You've proven amply that you do not care about people, facts or reality and frankly I don't like assholes who think that my life is less important than a chunk of tissue and that their feelings should trump my rights. So have fun pretending that you're some hero and you matter while you cheer on about killing people. That's what you'd accomplish by banning abortion:: Killing people. Hope you're proud of it.
I don't acknowledge gender outside of biological. There is no reason to, because everything else (genderfluid etc) has it's roots not in biology, but in societal perception. It's defined because the person wants it to be defined. I have no problem with a male relating to what society feels like a female should do and act like. But they can't change their genetics.
Look. It's really simple to work this out as what is right. Ask yourself, would you want it to happen to you? If you wouldn't want it to happen to you, why would you ever wish it for someone else?
Like I said before, keep your idiocy and your grandstanding in your own life. The rest of us have the right to live by our own beliefs and we shouldn't suffer because you refuse to acknowledge reality.
Why should I have to acknowledge your idiocy and grandstanding? I'm not stopping anyone from believing what they want to believe. And there's no reality to societal perceptions. There is reality in genetics.
Okay but there's nothing genetic about gender. Gender is a societal construct.
You are deliberately, and falsely, equating sex and gender. The two are not the same. You pretending they are anyway isn't going to change this, even if you believe it enough to necro an 8 month old comment and lecture perfect strangers on it.
I get my Sri Lanka cinnamon at a local herb store, where I can buy great organic herbs. For blood pressure, eat your broccoli and drink beet juice (which tastes even better with ginger root).
Just like $i$ter $arah.
Do you know what else lowers blood glucose levels?
Yes, abortion works wonders for the unborn's health, not to mention the mental health of women that do abort.
Abortion saves lives. Yes, some *people (It's not only women that get pregnant) suffer mental issues after but to pretend that this is all that happens and that the majority of people who abort aren't happy with their decision is nothing short of willfully ignoring fact.
As for the health of the fetus...What about all the pregnancies that are ended due to fetal defect? Or the ones that are ended because the pregnant person cannot raise the kid? Because of rape or abuse? All of those are better for the pregnancy than going to term and suffering.
You're so stuck on abortion being bad that you can't see where it does good. If you want to stay that then you do you. Keep your personal opinions in your own life. Leave my rights alone.
Fetal defect? Just because you would off yourself if you weren't perfect, doesn't mean all babies that will have problems don't deserve to have a chance at life. Everyone has something to contribute, even if it's a person that is born severely handicapped, and unable to understand others. Those deserve the chance to exist if only to remind us to be compassionate to our fellow humans.
Can't raise the kid? Adoption.
Rape or abuse? It's not the baby's fault. The mother should be getting proper counseling about her issues concerning the very bad situation she went through. There are plenty of people that was conceived in rape that have become successful and productive people. Suffering isn't a good enough excuse for murder.
I won't say no to an abortion where the child puts the life of the mother at risk, that would fit under self-defense. I'm also not looking to force the law to acknowledge life at conception. I just find it a shame people think feeling comfortable in their life trumps the right of another to live.
Fetal defect? Just because you would off yourself if you weren't perfect, doesn't mean all babies that will have problems don't deserve to have a chance at life.
What about fetuses without brains? Or fetuses whose lungs/hearts don't develop to function well enough to sustain life? Do you think that these fall under "not perfect" too?Are we obligated to let these fetuses suffer because you think it's shallow?
Can't raise the kid? Adoption.
Yes, let's sump more kids into the already over-crowded foster care system so they can be abused, not cared for and then dumped the moment they turned 18. Do actually educate yourself before you spout "solutions."
Rape or abuse? It's not the baby's fault. The mother should be getting proper counseling about her issues concerning the very bad situation she went through.
It's not the pregnant person's fault either. Why should they have to suffer because you project non-factual feelings onto tissue?
By the way, you're engaging in RAMPANT word abuse here. A baby is born. Nobody aborts babies. Further, being pregnant does NOT make one a mother.
Suffering isn't a good enough excuse for murder.
Can't murder something that isn't alive. Know what an early pregnancy is? Not alive.
I won't say no to an abortion where the child puts the life of the mother at risk, that would fit under self-defense.
It's ALL self-defense. EVERY pregnancy threatens a person's life--You can't get around that when you have something leeching off your very body.
I just find it a shame people think feeling comfortable in their life trumps the right of another to live.
"Comfort" is a deliberate and gross purposeful misconstruing of the reasons people abort.
There isn't a single anti-abortion argument based on plain, truthful fact. That should tell you something.
You haven't given one good reason TO abort. You used to be a lump of tissue in your mother's belly. Lucky for you, your mother chose to let that lump of tissue you claim has no life grow until it became something you would want to claim as something that has life. All of your reasons are wholly based on convenience and lack of responsibility, both in society and personally.
Oh, and 'Why shouldn't they have to suffer'. Protip, The woman was raped. She already suffers. She needs to be helped with her suffering, not the fact she got pregnant.
Every pregnancy threatens a person's life? I'm gonna just discard that based on the actual FACTS that people come to full term with no complications EVERY DAY. Thousands of times a day in fact. Even people in secluded tribes without any modern medical care have mothers that didn't end up in a risky situation due to pregnancy.
A fertilized embryo has all the information it needs to become an adult. All of it. All it needs is food and shelter. Guess what, you need food and shelter NOW. So... you're not alive? Bacteria is a single celled organism. It is classified as alive. So... Bacteria is alive but a fertilized embryo isn't. I know what the "Law" says. It doesn't acknowledge a human until after birth. I don't agree with that, because it just doesn't make sense.
I do get there are tons of horror stories about children in foster homes or waiting for adoption. Couldn't that be blamed on our society not taking responsibility for those that have been left without parents, wether the parents couldn't take care of them financially, or through the parents being jailed or dead. What happened to the orphanages that was run by people who care? They are all gone, probably due to government making regulations that just doesn't make sense, ones that sound good for the moment or a specific instance, but have terrible ramifications down the road. I personally want to adopt. Actually I want to have my own children, and if they aren't twins, adopt a kid so they can grow up as adopted twins (since I am a twin myself).
Is it really so disgusting and reprehensible idea to give everyone a chance, even if it's a poor one?
You haven't given one good reason TO abort.
Is it your body? No? Then your opinion on whether or not the reason is "good" means Fuck-all.
. You used to be a lump of tissue in your mother's belly. Lucky for you, your mother chose to let that lump of tissue you claim has no life grow until it became something you would want to claim as something that has life.
My "mother" didn't want me. Neither did my paternal DNA donor. They didn't "choose" to "let me grow;" they were blackmailed into it by my grandparents. They lost custody of me when I was 15 months old and said grandparents got me where I was then abused in the name of religion for 19 years til I left and they disowned me.
Don't go presuming that you know enough about perfect strangers to use their lives for your agenda. We're real people with real lives and you cheapen that when you pretend we're talking points.
Oh, and 'Why shouldn't they have to suffer'. Protip, The woman was raped. She already suffers. She needs to be helped with her suffering, not the fact she got pregnant.
That's not your decision to make unless it's your body. The PERSON (again, not all people who get pregnant are women) who got raped decides what they need, not anyone else except MAYBE their doctor.
Every pregnancy threatens a person's life? I'm gonna just discard that based on the actual FACTS that people come to full term with no complications EVERY DAY. Thousands of times a day in fact.
And that's yet another example of why you shouldn't be making these decisions for other people. The fact that a person carried a pregnancy without complications doesn't mean that they weren't in danger; it means they got lucky and that danger didn't turn catastrophic.
Have you ever BEEN pregnant? Try talking to those of us who have; we can tell you all about it.
A fertilized embryo has all the information it needs to become an adult. All of it. All it needs is food and shelter.
And development, and time, and a lot of luck, and the CONSENT of the person it gets all this from...
Guess what, you need food and shelter NOW. So... you're not alive?
I have a lot of things a fertilized embryo does not. A brain, organs, bodily functions, bodily fluids...You know, the things that make someone alive?
Further, if a fertilized embryo has "everything" it needs but "food and shelter" why do 75-80% of pregnancies miscarry before the second trimester? Methinks you're not being totally honest here...
I know what the "Law" says. It doesn't acknowledge a human until after birth. I don't agree with that, because it just doesn't make sense.
Not true. It doesn't give a human RIGHTS til birth. Even then, there is absolutely no situation wherein a human has a right to another human's body so even if, as you seem to desire, a fetus were given rights before birth you couldn't make abortion illegal without giving them special privileges.
Is it really so disgusting and reprehensible idea to give everyone a chance, even if it's a poor one?
Yes. It is utterly immoral and reprehensible to birth a child that you know will go on to suffer when you could prevent that suffering by abortion. A pregnancy loses nothing by being aborted. It never had a life, or expectations, or rights, or all the other bullshit forced birthers project onto it. It's a developing clump of tissue. Stopping that development deprives it off nothing.
Also, I would just like to point out that I point blank talked about fetuses that have not developed necessary body parts to live and yet you insist that I "haven't given one good reason to abort."
So in your mind a short life and painful death for a baby, massive unnecessary physical pain/effort for the pregnant person and massive unnecessary emotional trauma for both the parents is "not a good reason to abort."
In other words you're so wrapped up in your ideology that you can't admit that there ARE good reasons to abort at all. You are a perfect example of why abortion has to stay legally protected and safe: You're so caught up in your own fee-fees on the matter that real people and their real experiences have stopped registering.
Death isn't the only remedy for suffering. And since when has a biological male become pregnant? I'm leaving you alone in your confusion. And human rights aren't government given, they are natural. Something given by the government can be taken by a vote and a stroke of the pen. But no stroke of the pen will ever make denying the chance at a full life out of convenience right.
Death isn't the only remedy for suffering.
Abortion is only legal for health reasons or fetal defect at the point where a fetus would die were it aborted. An early pregnancy is not alive. It does not have the organs, functions or brain to be alive.
Further, who are you to decide what is and isn't a solution to a problem that isn't yours and you know nothing about?
And since when has a biological male become pregnant?
Biological male!=man. There are these people who are trans or gender-fluid, maybe you've heard of them? If not I'll gladly explain it to you.
And human rights aren't government given, they are natural.
Not in the US they aren't. They're given by the Constitution.
Something given by the government can be taken by a vote and a stroke of the pen.
You would know, as you heartily advocate doing just that. Yet you claim that human rights, such as autonomy, are natural. So why are you contradicting yourself by attempting to remove them?
But no stroke of the pen will ever make denying the chance at a full life out of convenience right.
"Convenience" is a gross and deliberate misconstruing of why people abort. It's a bald-faced LIE. And it's one of the millions of lies anti-abortionists use to pretend that their grandstanding is something more than a child's tempertantrum at the fact that perfect strangers are daring to live by their own morals instead of yours.
I'm done responding to you. You've proven amply that you do not care about people, facts or reality and frankly I don't like assholes who think that my life is less important than a chunk of tissue and that their feelings should trump my rights. So have fun pretending that you're some hero and you matter while you cheer on about killing people. That's what you'd accomplish by banning abortion:: Killing people. Hope you're proud of it.
I don't acknowledge gender outside of biological. There is no reason to, because everything else (genderfluid etc) has it's roots not in biology, but in societal perception. It's defined because the person wants it to be defined. I have no problem with a male relating to what society feels like a female should do and act like. But they can't change their genetics.
Look. It's really simple to work this out as what is right. Ask yourself, would you want it to happen to you? If you wouldn't want it to happen to you, why would you ever wish it for someone else?
So...More you willfully ignoring fact. Got it.
Like I said before, keep your idiocy and your grandstanding in your own life. The rest of us have the right to live by our own beliefs and we shouldn't suffer because you refuse to acknowledge reality.
Why should I have to acknowledge your idiocy and grandstanding? I'm not stopping anyone from believing what they want to believe. And there's no reality to societal perceptions. There is reality in genetics.
Okay but there's nothing genetic about gender. Gender is a societal construct.
You are deliberately, and falsely, equating sex and gender. The two are not the same. You pretending they are anyway isn't going to change this, even if you believe it enough to necro an 8 month old comment and lecture perfect strangers on it.