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"When it comes to the death penalty, it’s so final." Wow, what a lightbulb moment!

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Who had this stunning revelation?

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It is funny, the incongruity of the “pro-life” party being so “pro death penalty”. Seeing reason? Willing to learn? Maaaybe starting to cotton to the fact that the death penalty is a hella fucked up system of justice? How is this guy a Republican again?

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Ta, Robyn. Abolish the death penalty.

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“When it comes to the death penalty, it’s so final. Once you do it, you can’t walk it back."

Here's hoping they will connect the dots from the finality of the death penalty to finality of putting someone in prison for decades. You can't bring someone back from the dead. You also can't give someone back all of those years they lost, especially people thrown in jail in their early 20s (or younger) and not released until their well past their 40s (or older). Sure, they are at least able to be released but you've still taken a large portion of their life from them.

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"we have very high standards, very high burdens of proof" in Missouri.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Ask me about this, and I'll tell you, but be prepared for a very long answer. I just sent 200 pages of my summary of the complete lack of evidence against me and all the lies the cops are telling to cover this up to my attorney. You don't want to read it, it will ruin your day. And by the way, the AG's office STILL hasn't turned over the 20 items of Discovery that they admit they have but never gave us. Very high standards my ass.

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There's a great documentary by Richard Linklater about Huntsville, Texas, the epicenter of Texas' incarceration/industrial complex, and the place where condemned prisoners are executed. ("God Save Texas" a 3 part series, "hometown Prison" is episode 1 on streaming video.) For once, the issue of capital punishment is told by interviews with all kinds of people on both sides of the viewing booth window - prisoners' family members, reporters and prison workers and administrators.

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Damn, that's gotta be good.

What's the deal with this series? Is Linklater making all three episodes? What are the other two going to be about? I'd love to see him take on a topic like, say, why Texas keeps electing swine like Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton.

In Linklater's "Bernie," one of the characters delivers a monologue on how Texas is really four or five (or six?) states stitched together: Austin, Dallas, West Texas, the Panhandle, and a few others. It's priceless.

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The other two episodes in the HBO series are about the oil and gas business ('The Price of Oil" and the border 9 ('La Frontera').

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John Oliver's episode segment on Executions just went live on YouTube for free today. It's, well, awful subject-wise but well-done. He even admits he and his team MAY have crossed into journalism by discovering a supplier of execution meds! (he insists that it's allowed since while they are not journalists, they ARE "shit sitrrers").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOn3wba8c-Y

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Apr 11·edited Apr 11

On L&O:SVU, the perpetrator is almost always the least sympathetic person in the episode. Is there a rich white asshole in the episode? Yeah, he’s the rapist. Dick Wolf admits that’s deliberate so audience doesn’t feel bad for the defendant. Also, poor defendants can’t afford the high priced lawyers who will put on an elaborate defense.

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Yeah, and the constant between that and earlier episodes is that the SVU cops are always insufferably self-righteous about it all.

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Who was it that investigated how Law and Order impacts peoples' perceptions and found out Wolf was offered a spinoff show idea for Law and Order: The Defense and just didn't want to do it since it might humanize criminals and defense attorneys?

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I thought this was your story about Orenthal being found jury nullified of murder. Couldn't figure out what it had to do with Missouri.

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If Trumpists get power, they will be allowed to kill people simply based on political position.

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That’s the goal.

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Read Sinclair Lewis' 1935 "It Can't Happen Here" for a rather graphic example of that.

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Apr 11·edited Apr 11

Ooops, wrong thread

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What's next. Are Republicans going to come out against the proposed Thunderdome that the proven rapist Defendant Trump has planned for Mar a Largo and plans to use for any member of previous Administrations that he rounds up???

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What's that pro life we keep hearing about. This is it on the layaway plan.

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'𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝗜’𝗺 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗳𝘁, 𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝘅𝗲𝗰𝘂𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀, 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻. 𝗜’𝗺 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗳𝘂𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝘅𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗸𝘀! 𝗟𝗲𝘁’𝘀 𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝘅𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀. 𝗔 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗝𝗲𝘄𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗲. 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝗜’𝗱 𝗴𝗼 𝗮 𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗳𝘂𝗿𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿, 𝗜’𝗱 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝘂𝗽𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲-𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻. 𝗟𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗦𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘁 𝗣𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗿, 𝗳𝗲𝗲𝘁 𝘂𝗽, 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻. 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝗻𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗱. 𝗜’𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗻𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝘂𝗽𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲-𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝘅𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗧𝗩 𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗮 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸 𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗳𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘆 𝗡𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗙𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗴𝗮𝗺𝗲! 𝗛𝗮𝗹𝗳𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲! 𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘆 𝗡𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁! 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘆 𝗡𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗖𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝘅𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀! 𝗬𝗼𝘂’𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝘁𝘂𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻, 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗙𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹'

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Wasn't that Dennis Leary?

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George Carlin.

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Now I remember

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Just a guess here, but I wonder if Bishop Davidson is planning on doing some murdering, or already has and is worried he might get found out. It's so very odd for a gopper to object to the death penalty.

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Who in hell names their kid Bishop? I suppose it's some kind of of family name, but still.

Of course he could open his own parochial school: "The Bishop Davidson Fighting Crusaders take the floor !! "

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Chess fans?

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Lol...sadly that is a justifiable thought all things rwnj.

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Time to note here the recent passing of the great Robert Badinter, who led the charge to abolish the death penalty in France. (The guillotine was still being used as late as 1977, the year we Américains restarted executions after a ten-year moratorium.)

https://theconversation.com/who-was-robert-badinter-the-most-important-frenchman-of-whom-you-never-heard-223841

Who was Robert Badinter, the most important Frenchman of whom you never heard?

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Guys.

If we’re willing, as a society, to accept school shootings as a regular and normal part of the American Experience, why should we get all bent out of shape about an occasional execution, following jury trial and seemingly endless appeals, even if, once in a while, the executee is objectively innocent?

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Some of us are not willing to accept school shootings (or other mass shooting events) and work to try to change the laws.

But yeah, I know too many people who call those deaths 'the price of freedom.' Really.

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Are you expecting internal consistency from 300 million humans? You can't even put seven humans together without getting at least 8 different viewpoints.

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