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Yeah, that's what I used to believe, but clearly this is just propaganda or a false flag or something.

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Fuck those knuckle dragging sister marrying assholes. These are the same drooling losers that reelected that cretin DesJarlais despite his having an adulterous affair with one of his patients then pressuring her into having an abortion all while crowing his anti choice BS. As always, IOKIYAR, just another hypocritical lawbreaking fuckwit lecturing others on the need to follow the laws he happens to favor

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Keep fucking that chicken, assholes.

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I had a heated discussion about this topic with an asshole Xtianist in a staff meeting this past year. First, he didn't know the difference between gay and transgender. Second, he used the "guys will pretend to be gay just so they can see girls' ladyparts" bullshit. I was quite blunt in telling him that A) He had no clue what the fuck he was talking about and B) If, after 10 years or so of teaching in a high school he thought that any guy would, for an instant, consider pretending to be gay he needed to start actually paying attention to the social dynamics around him.

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Yes, me too. But the nicetime, for me at least, is the knowledge that <i>generationally</i> this battle is won, done, stick a fork in it.

And I love the fact that those conservatives whose politics consists of pushing hot buttons and fomenting populist outrage on social issues in order to further their unpopular economic and political agenda are energetically flogging this horse corpse. Hey, it worked in the eighties.

They are looking more neanderthal and intolerant and unappealing to the under-40s by the minute.

*pops the cap on another beer*

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As others have pointed out, college campuses are not the best place to ask about the horrors of shared bathrooms. Jeez, my dorm was coed in 1977, including the bathrooms.

What I want to know is this:

I am female, and the only time I find myself in the men's room is at older theaters with insufficient facilities, when the intermission is almost over and the line for the laydees is too long. Or similar situations. But I'm getting the sense that men's terlets are a major area of crime, passion, drama, fear, social upheaval, and subversive politics. I want more info on this.

Apparently common to all public men's rooms are endless obsessive covert side-eye staring at one another's junk, Republicans soliciting boys, undercover cops lounging about, rape, romance, glory holes, and a resident population of people whose gender is mysteriously and exotically and threateningly indeterminate. I had no idea I'd been missing so much.

I guess it might be fun except for the horrible smell of the urinal cake.

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Which apparently are starting up the weekend after next.

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Pffft Men's rooms are dirty, smelly and boring. You do your thing, (hopefully) wash your hands and GTFO end of story. Guys don't even make eye contact in them, much less leer at each other's junk. In fact, every guy knows the unwritten etiquette of public peeing- if there's a row of urinals you take the farthest one from anyone already at one. If there are two guys you still choose a urinal where nobody is adjacent to you, if necessary you use one of the sit down toilets rather than crowding in. The only time you choose a urinal next to someone else is if it is the only option available (and there are some guys who will putz around and wait rather than choose this as long as there's not a line- a bit extreme IMHO). All guys know this instinctively, it must be hard wired into our DNA- one simply does not waltz up to a urinal adjacent to another guy if it can be avoided, even if it takes complex math (sometimes every other urinal is in use). Looking over at another guy while peeing is strictly forbidden unless you want a good ass whooping or at least a loud "what the FUCK are you looking at!!!!". It's bad enough if you spend more time than necessary staring at your own junk while doing your business- it's assumed you're either really drunk or really strange and in neither case does anybody else want anything to do with you.

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no kidding- shoot me now...

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What zippy said. I'd like to add that the men's room is one place in the US where an Englishman can feel comfortable. All the backslapping and bonhomie and insufferable optimism disappears, and it's back to silence and avoiding eye contact and the paralysing fear that you'll break a rule you don't know about.

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Here is the thing people forget every time they get all excited about people possibly seeing the sexytime parts of other genders/etc: locker rooms are not actually a place most people want to be. They are a place where you are transitioning to or from something that made you sweaty, dirty, possibly bloody. You are stripping off whatever you were wearing before to go on to having clean clothes for your next stop. While I'm sure people look-we're all human, after all-its generally not a place where anyone has the energy or time for prurient thoughts to the extent these crazy people constantly imagine.

To be clear I'm not just talking about this new law, but every single time that "x person being in the locker room!" has been a freakout point for the socially prudish, most famously with female reporters in professional locker rooms of course.

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heh, point

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the running of the bulls?

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needs moar unskewing!!1!

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seems to me that that is the proper response to Dan Joseph regardless what he's asking about...

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<strike>The God and Prude Brigade</strike> <strike>The Bad Guys</strike> <strike>America-hating sub-fascist extremists</strike> <strike>State Media</strike> <strike>One branch of social conservatives</strike> Some guy with a mic feels about California the way I feel about Texas: they do <i>Things</i> there! Things we must not permit to seep out into civilized society, lest we become irremediably corrupted!

I wonder when the wingnuts will finally notice that gender difference is not a hot button with anyone under 40. It's been a long time since I've seen an issue on which the generational divide is so complete, absolute, and final. That's my Sunday nice time, for sure.

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