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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Dok. 🎶... 'cause you know sometimes words have two meanings. And sometimes they have none.

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Satanic Pancake's avatar

We need to accept that words are meaningless, that the entire conservative movement has moved beyond anything resembling the truth, and embrace the fact that we need to lie and demonize and insult anyone who opposes us or get destroyed. Reason is pointless. Fair play is useless.

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Donnie Gwinn's avatar

This reminds me of the ads on the "Fair Tax" amendment in IL in 2020. Millionaires paid millions to soak everybody in ads saying it was an amendment to the state constitution to begin taxing retirement income (already taxable) and to raise everyone's taxes, especially the elderly on "fixed incomes" (nope, it would have taken us from a flat income tax to a progressive income tax, so every income taxpayer making less than some giant income number would have paid less.)

That campaign was so effective that I had a voter bring their ballot to me and ask me for the "right ballot" with "the tax hike amendment on it." I was an election judge, so I couldn't just say "yeah, that was all bullshit, so I looked over the ballot and assured them that it was complete and correct and had all of the amendments up for a vote that year. They insisted that they knew it couldn't, because they knew the one on the ballot didn't mention taxing retirement income or doubling the income tax, and they wanted to vote on that amendment.

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Ganjaneer's avatar

The ads out here were batshit stoopit, crazy. Voted yes on Issue 1 and for Sherrod Brown. Now we got Morono the car salesman.

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bcb's avatar

NYT article:

Whether it's Democrats in California hiding that a ballot referendum to protect the welfare of farmed chickens also applies to farmed ducks, or Republicans in Ohio hiding that a ballot referendum against Gerrymandering does exactly the opposite of what Republicans say, both sides deceive the American People on ballot referendums.

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weejee's avatar

YAY!!! MGP still leading PABster Joe Kent in Warshington's 3rd CD after yesterday's ballot dump.

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Vagenda and Peeara's avatar

The House is still in play!

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SkeptiKC's avatar

Thank goodness!

Joe Kent is a very bad word.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project accepts that America has voted to re-elect Donald Trump on his victory. We believe in this democracy and in the peaceful transfer of power when the voters have spoken.

Four years ago when he lost by over seven million votes, Donald Trump’s Big Lie tore the country apart. For the first time in American history, there was no peaceful transition of power.

We said, as did many, this is not how it should work in America. In a democracy, someone must be willing to lose. In this election, it’s our turn to play that role in our democratic process.

We will stand with the millions who share a different vision of America than Donald Trump and his allies.

In the days, weeks and months ahead, we will not challenge the legitimacy of the voters' choice for president. We will confront his policies and his inevitable abuse of power. We will fiercely challenge him on his lack of moral character and decency.

We will challenge him on his promotion of authoritarians at home and abroad, and his failure to stand for freedom in the largest war in Europe since World War Two. We will challenge him on the vulgarity with which he demeans the office of the Presidency. The Republican Party and QAnon are now in the same party.

The most important battles are often the most difficult. We did not get into this fight because it was easy. We did so because it was important. That was true yesterday and is more true today.

We are deeply grateful to everyone who has supported and believed in the Lincoln Project.

Last night was not our night, but the fight for American democracy is too important to abandon, no matter how long the odds.

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paperlesstiger's avatar

So we're right back to humoring a madman.

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Land Shark 🇺🇦 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

Unless you have a better idea. I don't.

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Vagenda and Peeara's avatar

But this time with no guardrails, and more dementia!

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SunMoonStars's avatar

LP is partly responsible beginning with Raygun. They have ownership in this.

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Vagenda and Peeara's avatar

At least they saw their party had gone way too far, and they've been trying to help put the brakes on it.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

Nicole Wallace was asking W to come out against all this and he declined. She’s been one living in denial for a long time.

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Biff52 Lost Canadian's avatar

I don't get all the love for her in lefty circles. A temporary ally, like so many others.

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MRK's avatar

I'd like to be pissed at this guy, but I can't. He at least made an effort, and West didn't even crack 1%, so it's not like he would have made a difference. It's the people who didn't vote who made this.

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Thalia Is Not Amused's avatar

I just had an idea, let me know what you think.

I think we need to rebrand the Democrat party. Something needs to be done, because it's been demonized for over 40 years now. It's tainted. Besides, we're living in a reality TV world now, so why not lean into it? 😁

We can call ourselves the United Worker Party and include farmers. And we spend the next four years spending time in ALL 50 states. We change the name, but not the spirit. I think it might actually work, who knows?

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Biff52 Lost Canadian's avatar

By calling it the "Democrat" Party, you've already let the right-wing rebrand it "for" us.

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Thalia Is Not Amused's avatar

I honestly get the two confused, and that's kind of my point. It's not working anymore, so why not evolve?

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Thalia Is Not Amused's avatar

Key phrase being “in Europe”. We're talking about Americans. 😁

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<Insert Witty Username>'s avatar

Ok -- now for an important topic:

It's been snowing for two straight days here. Should I make chili for dinner, or is it a pot roast night?

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Thalia Is Not Amused's avatar

Oooh, such a hard decision! I say pot roast tonight, chili on Saturday with some leftover pot roast included. Win-win!

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SunMoonStars's avatar

I had chili recently so I say pot roast. Nothing like some great comfort foods.

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Dina's avatar

I WISH I could have my comfort foods. There are four, and all of them very low-brow: Chef Boyardee Ravioli, Mary Kitchen Corned Beef Hash, Kraft Mac & Cheese Spirals, and Oscar Mayer thick-sliced balonga w/ a slice of Kraft American cheese with Miracle Whip on soft white bread. I know, lol, right? Unfortunately, I can't get ANY of it here in England. [very sad, sad face]

So tonight is going to be ham, leek, and potato soup. Good 'nuff.

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Sleepmonger's avatar

You can order the ravioli and mac and cheese on amazon (I know, but boycottng Bezoar's baby only hurts you, he won't feel a thing) and have them shipped to you. Shipping might pinch you a bit, but you can comfort yourself when it arrives. :)

I take it you're originally from the midwest? :) ::looks fondly at baloney sammich::

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Dina's avatar

Yes! Minnesota!

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Dina's avatar

Also, there are a few American foods sites I've tried. I may go check them, except all the good stuff is always out of stock. The prices, too, are shocking—one packet of KoolAid, for example, is about £1.25 instead of...what? I know they used to be anywhere from 10 to 20 cents each, but that was a long time ago...

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Biff52 Lost Canadian's avatar

Corned beef hash was always a favorite, but it aggravates my gout. I buy roast beef hash instead now. Better. I doubt you can get it there, either.

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Dina's avatar

Nope, not that either. I accidentally bought the roast beef hash once (don't know how, the labels are different colors) and, when I tried it, thought it was really good. That would do, too—if I could get it.

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Rocket Cat's avatar

Make a chili with the pot roast meat?

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<Insert Witty Username>'s avatar

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Rocket Cat's avatar

Google barbacoa

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Edith Prickly's avatar

OT/not OT - I'm channelling Jeff Tiedrich today. A whole lot of people can FUCK ALL THE WAY OFF.

https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/welcome-to-these-united-states-of

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Larry Schmitt's avatar

The Times will next do a series on trump being "presidential" (but this time we mean it) in his new term.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

I posted the same and yes I'm with Jeff. Fuck off, fuck all the way off and when you get there fuck off some more. Then turn around and fuck off again. Dig that hole and fuck off till there is nothing left of you then fuck off some more.

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Wednesday wasn’t just a good day for Donald Trump. The wealth of the world’s 10 richest people also soared by a record amount, according to Bloomberg’s Billionaire Index.

The biggest gainer was Elon Musk, the world’s richest person and one of Trump’s most outspoken and dedicated supporters, whose wealth jumped $26.5 billion to $290 billion Wednesday, according to Bloomberg. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos’ wealth grew $7.1 billion a week after defending his decision to withhold the Washington Post’s endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris. Oracle cofounder Larry Ellison, another Trump supporter, saw his net worth rose $5.5 billion Wednesday.

Other gainers include former Microsoft executives Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, former Google executives Larry Page and Sergey Brin and Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett. Although none of those billionaires endorsed a candidate this year, they have spoken in favor of Democratic candidates and causes in the past. (CNN)

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Msgr MΩment, Neurodegenerate's avatar

I made $8k, just sitting here on my ass. Turrible day.

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SkeptiKC's avatar

I HATE this.

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Rocket Cat's avatar

That’s disgusting. Smaugs

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DirkDiggler's avatar

In the books, this is where the real "Dragons" reappear and take over all the dwarven hordes. Where are the Balrogs when you need them....

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Brando's avatar

They're expecting big tax giveaways and government largesse, too. Corruption is back.

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SunMoonStars's avatar

It never left just curbed by Ds and their policies. Now its a free for all.

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Craig Nixon's avatar

Happening now:

𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐝𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝐫𝐞-𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭

Joe Biden is scheduled to address the nation from the White House after Donald Trump won the presidential election.

The 11am speech will likely be a tough one for the Democratic president, who cut short his own re-election bid in July and endorsed his vice-president Kamala Harris, only to see her lose to Trump. Biden’s predecessor attempted to block him from taking office after losing to him in 2020, and has vowed to undo many of his policies once he returns to power.

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