So...they are arguing that too bad the cops dictated the "confession" and the prosecutors hid evidence from the defendant, because setting a precedent that the cops dictate confessions and prosecutors hide evidence is...bad for the state?
Given the rest of the recent rulings, I fully expect the court to rule that Brady and Napue were incorrect, and that prosecutors are now legally obligated to lie to the court and defense.
I mean, based on ignoring 50 years of precedence in one case, and "no, it's not a bribe if you call it a tip" in another.
They don’t need white shoe lawyers who don’t represent poor people in death penalty cases. They need the dedicated and experienced counsel they have to get the resources to meet the state. Resources is the whole game.
Very weird that the state AG is driving this effort. It’s very rare for one of them to oppose the overturning of any conviction no matter how questionable the case was
And therein lies the rub for the absolute monsters opposing his case to not be put to death for a crime they very obviously didn't do. Better to just execute the person than let on that the criminal justice – which is biased in favor of rich white people to the detriment of everyone else — is inherently unfair and completely fucked.
Doesn't it bother them at the least that someone who committed horrific crimes gets off completely free? I get they like the death penalty, but do they just like like it?
The (white-supremacists-in-power-dominated) country lets 160 years of Confederate hate crimes slide ...
and then people wonder why a literal Nazi is the *chosen* candidate of that (same, loud) 30% of the country who gets its way because there are too many people "in the middle" who turn their heads and look away every time they do something heinous
Because the thing is -- and people who read Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid and Anthea Butler and Nicole Hannah Jones already know about this -- this is NOT the first time in the country something like this has happened. Nor the second.
That A.G. Drummond is of the Ree Drummond cooking/home living product & media empire. Who, allegedly, is married to a descendant of the “Killers of the Flower Moon” Osage Indian murderers. Huh…. Boycotts CAN work if effectively planned and organized.
Drummond has been a surprise. I had him pegged as a Trumper, but so far he is going after corruption like a trained dog goes after those puffy arm sleeve thingies trainers wear. Also, he owns a local bank that is willing to work with the MMJ industry, so that's nice.
Ever onward! I have been busy raising two amazing teen boys who are serious justice warriors. They are almost grown up now. *sniff* Time to rebuild my community. ;)
The Glossip case is different from most other death penalty cases that I sign petitions for and make Governor phone calls for. The State is begging not to kill. My suggestion to "the State" is...then just don't kill Glossip. On "execution day," don't walk him to the death chamber. Everybody just stop the process and then wait for the next move. Those in the know please tell me what happens next. Is everyone who just sat there arrested? Does Governor Stitt send the National Guard to death row? I'm not kidding in the slightest...what if? Do the "strikers" now get the death penalty? I'm more than willing to be part of the human chain around the prison to test this! What if we all drive to the prison to pick up Glossip and a bunch of Glossip look-alikes and we all drive away in different directions...nobody knows if they've got the real Glossip!! Come on, creative engagement to save a life!! Who's with me?! ✊
Isn’t it interesting how just not doing the thing that many powerful people don’t want to do and think is wrong doesn’t seem to be an answer? Obviously we don’t have to stretch to see how it can be misused as a strategy were it to be widely adopted. But if we framed it as a strike or a filibuster rather than an official act, like if the people supposed to do the actual killing just didn’t, then the people who reeeeeeeeally want this guy dead would have to do something to make it happen. The strikers might get in trouble, but that’s maybe worthwhile - it’s Good Trouble.
Unreconstructed state, in a society that loves "tough on crime?" And a majority of bodies on the Supreme Court picked by fascists? Glossip is good as dead. I am open to be pleasantly surprised to see if Stitt is as bloodthirsty as his neighboring unreconstructed murderer Mike Parson.
Stitt waited until literally the final hour before commuting Julius Jones's death sentence. It was an act of deliberate cruelty. I have never hated anyone the way I hated that man in that hour. He's a heartless monster.
So...they are arguing that too bad the cops dictated the "confession" and the prosecutors hid evidence from the defendant, because setting a precedent that the cops dictate confessions and prosecutors hide evidence is...bad for the state?
That is what they are going with?
Ta, Robyn.
Hey, if we are headed towards a totalitarian state like Russia, why not have the same kind of bullshit legal system?
Given the rest of the recent rulings, I fully expect the court to rule that Brady and Napue were incorrect, and that prosecutors are now legally obligated to lie to the court and defense.
I mean, based on ignoring 50 years of precedence in one case, and "no, it's not a bribe if you call it a tip" in another.
If I ever had stupid money, I would buy the best white shoe counsel for every defendant charge in a death penalty case, everywhere across the country.
They don’t need white shoe lawyers who don’t represent poor people in death penalty cases. They need the dedicated and experienced counsel they have to get the resources to meet the state. Resources is the whole game.
Whatever it takes.
Photo of Christopher Michel!
https://www.quinnemanuel.com/attorneys/michel-christopher/
His mouth smiles cheerfully, but his eyes creep me out. No likey.
No relation to Bunty?
Very weird that the state AG is driving this effort. It’s very rare for one of them to oppose the overturning of any conviction no matter how questionable the case was
The Glossip case doesn't just discredit the death penalty. It discredits the entire US legal system.
And therein lies the rub for the absolute monsters opposing his case to not be put to death for a crime they very obviously didn't do. Better to just execute the person than let on that the criminal justice – which is biased in favor of rich white people to the detriment of everyone else — is inherently unfair and completely fucked.
The death penalty should be reserved for members of the Federalist Society.
Doesn't it bother them at the least that someone who committed horrific crimes gets off completely free? I get they like the death penalty, but do they just like like it?
Glossip might die and Trump is running for president. Friends, our society is deeply, deeply broken.
Yeah, I go between slight hope and realizing no matter what happens with X issue - America is in a very scary position.
"America is in a very scary position."
I wish people would think more about WHY that is.
The (white-supremacists-in-power-dominated) country lets 160 years of Confederate hate crimes slide ...
and then people wonder why a literal Nazi is the *chosen* candidate of that (same, loud) 30% of the country who gets its way because there are too many people "in the middle" who turn their heads and look away every time they do something heinous
Because the thing is -- and people who read Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid and Anthea Butler and Nicole Hannah Jones already know about this -- this is NOT the first time in the country something like this has happened. Nor the second.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/07/donald-trumps-hitlerian-logic-is-no-mistake
It gets exhausting watching these situations, doing what we can & hoping that someone will do the right thing.
That A.G. Drummond is of the Ree Drummond cooking/home living product & media empire. Who, allegedly, is married to a descendant of the “Killers of the Flower Moon” Osage Indian murderers. Huh…. Boycotts CAN work if effectively planned and organized.
Drummond has been a surprise. I had him pegged as a Trumper, but so far he is going after corruption like a trained dog goes after those puffy arm sleeve thingies trainers wear. Also, he owns a local bank that is willing to work with the MMJ industry, so that's nice.
I'm happy to see you back on this new platform.
Ta! I had a rough time after 2016 and sort of withdrew from the interwebs. I am so happy to find so many familiar faces still here.
Your presence indicates an improvement, or so I hope!
Ever onward! I have been busy raising two amazing teen boys who are serious justice warriors. They are almost grown up now. *sniff* Time to rebuild my community. ;)
Ahh, he's a cousin.
The Glossip case is different from most other death penalty cases that I sign petitions for and make Governor phone calls for. The State is begging not to kill. My suggestion to "the State" is...then just don't kill Glossip. On "execution day," don't walk him to the death chamber. Everybody just stop the process and then wait for the next move. Those in the know please tell me what happens next. Is everyone who just sat there arrested? Does Governor Stitt send the National Guard to death row? I'm not kidding in the slightest...what if? Do the "strikers" now get the death penalty? I'm more than willing to be part of the human chain around the prison to test this! What if we all drive to the prison to pick up Glossip and a bunch of Glossip look-alikes and we all drive away in different directions...nobody knows if they've got the real Glossip!! Come on, creative engagement to save a life!! Who's with me?! ✊
Isn’t it interesting how just not doing the thing that many powerful people don’t want to do and think is wrong doesn’t seem to be an answer? Obviously we don’t have to stretch to see how it can be misused as a strategy were it to be widely adopted. But if we framed it as a strike or a filibuster rather than an official act, like if the people supposed to do the actual killing just didn’t, then the people who reeeeeeeeally want this guy dead would have to do something to make it happen. The strikers might get in trouble, but that’s maybe worthwhile - it’s Good Trouble.
Do not obey in advance.
Unreconstructed state, in a society that loves "tough on crime?" And a majority of bodies on the Supreme Court picked by fascists? Glossip is good as dead. I am open to be pleasantly surprised to see if Stitt is as bloodthirsty as his neighboring unreconstructed murderer Mike Parson.
Stitt waited until literally the final hour before commuting Julius Jones's death sentence. It was an act of deliberate cruelty. I have never hated anyone the way I hated that man in that hour. He's a heartless monster.
https://www.justiceforjuliusjones.com/