😂😂😂Hey, way to make a whole bunch of asinine assumptions because you don’t like folks correcting your lies! What better way to convince people your cause is just than to engage in logical and reasoned dialog or, in your case, the opposite of that?
I will say I’m screencapping your screed and your melodramatic kneejerk rebuttal straight out of the 2010s to share with my fellow PREVENTIVE medicine researchers anytime we need a good laugh.
Thanks for letting me know my comments are private. Must be the default setting because I can’t be arsed to change anything about Disqus. However, if you couldn’t take the extra three clicks to figure out just how “private” I am, I’m not indulging you.
In conclusion, keep doing you. There’s an intellectual niche for everyone, and you’ll find it eventually.
I am sure you just got another check from the pharma group you represent. Preventative medicine my ass. Why all out support for drugs. Inquiring minds want to knopw
However, quite often the researchers are NOT on the drug companies' payroll - they working at Universities, public and otherwise, so in fact the American taxpayer is already paying for this drug research. I think marketing/advertising should be tied to actual research done by the drug companies, $1 advertising for every $3 research money.
This is interesting because I've been noticing a plethora of ads for Psoriasis medications recently and wondered, just how many people suffer from this? Clearly a new class of drugs has been discovered and now all of the drug companies are competing to get on top of that pile.
I appreciate the civility of your response. Slightly off-topic, but in the spirit of discussion, I offer this: I find when I go to a doctor's office, I have been asked not if I am on prescription drugs, but which ones I am taking, and my answer of `none' is received with a mild startle response. I should add that I don't think there is anything about my physical appearance to make anyone conclude that I should be taking pharmaceuticals on an ongoing basis. Ergo, the baseline expectation on the part of these people is that if you walk through the door seeking treatment, you are on drugs. I went to a doctor about a year ago because I had developed difficulty swallowing. He looked in my throat, and told me I had an ongoing medical condition that required prescription drugs for the rest of my life. I reluctantly but dutifully filled the scripts and took the meds, and then developed symptoms which he had expected me to have and which were only eased when I forgot to take one of the prescriptions a few days in a row. I became suspicious at that point, and had a diagnostic procedure done that revealed I did not have that condition, pitched the drugs in the trash, and have had no further issues. The lump in my throat resolved with no further treatment--just a mild and passing irritation/inflammation. I feel lucky to have dodged that bullet, but without my having pressed for further answers, I would have faced a lifetime of unneeded dependence on invasive and expensive medication. I was checking in for surgery one morning early this year at the same time as another patient, and overheard his response to the what-medications-are-you-on question. He gestured at a woman with him, said he didn't know, that was her department, and she rattled off what must have been a dozen drugs. As you said, people have their reasons, but the number surprised me. I have other friends whom I've known for many years, and watched them deteriorate physically and become dependent upon multiple prescriptions for conditions that are often the result of lifestyle choices. These experiences, and the default assumption on the part of medical caregivers that I am on prescription medicine as a way of life made me realize just how compromised the health of the general population may be. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this.
Four-and-change years ago I had life-changing knee surgery performed by a doctor (may his name be a blessing, as it was for me) and his team that cost my insurance company tens of thousands of dollars. He's the top teaching surgeon in this state for this procedure, and cleans up the messes other doctors create. (Okay, that's not how it's phrased, but yeah.) The surgeon took in $2K in travel, lodging, and food in 2018, including one payment for $12. I'm wondering what this could represent--bus fare? Lunch at McDonalds? This from a company that paid another doctor $32K in the same year. Do they not realize how gifted and wonderful this man is? Twelve bucks! I am outraged.
I did forget to mention there are valid reasons everyone is asked about what medications they are taking.
Most people go to a doctor to demand medicine as a way to rapidly fix whatever is wrong. We are all to blame for this - providers, consumers, pharmaceutical marketers. That’s why we now have antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Ergo, because Americans want a pill to solve every problem, it’s a safe assumption that most folks are taking something.
Then there’s liability. If you don’t ask, you’re in danger of prescribing a drug that interacts with the current therapy. And patients don’t always think they’re at risk of this.
Here’s how that goes:Intake: “are you taking anything?”Patient: “Nope!”Intake: “What about over-the-counter? Like allergy medicine?”Patient: “oh! Yes, Sudafed for my sinuses.” (Narrator: Sudafed raises blood pressure)Intake: “Anything else?”Patient: “Nope!”
...except for the megadose multivitamin with extra calcium (blocks iron absorption), St. John’s Wort for mood, (many contraindications), and other supplements that can mask celiac disease or other deficiency disorders
Anyway, it’s become a safety protocol to assume the answer is yes. Have a nice day!
I used to do medical billing, first for a chiropractic practice, then for a pediatric practice.
At the chiropractic office, we didn't get many visits from reps at all - one homeopathic remedy salesdude came by and sold the chiropractor on his brand, and threw in a nifty stand on which to display the stuff we carried (over my objections), but that was it.
At the pediatric office, I have no idea what personal financial "incentives" the four doctors in the practice got (on this list, one got $18 and one got $0), but we were visited by each pharma rep about once a week. They invariably brought lunch-ish items... chocolate-covered strawberries, trays of shrimp cocktail, a variety of sandwiches, cake and cookies, and that sort of thing - and the office staff got very snarky about the free nosh if it wasn't luxurious enough.
Of all quackery, homeopathy is the most irritating to me. Take something that causes the condition that you’re trying to cure, then dilute it until there is literally not a single molecule left. The water “remembers.” Imagine a homeopathic birth control preparation: take a sperm cell, place it in an olympic-sized swimming pool full of water, shake the jeebus out of it, take a drop of that water and repeat. Yes, that’s how dumb true homeopathy is. Thanks to Dean Edell, M.D. for that wunnerful analogy.
Any response to a true “homeopathic preparation” is placebo effect.
I know, once they've reached the age of majority we'll let them choose to opt out. But if you do then you can't join after you get sick or injured or gotten past the age of say 35. All out of pocket from that point. Nature will take its course from there.
Luckily, I was in charge of ordering refills, so unless we had patients asking for it, I ordered more of the "herbal" stuff and waaaaaay less of the homeopathic crap they sold.
The herbal crap was still crap, but it was less crappy than the tiny, useless, expensive bottles of water.
The chiropractor I worked for was a lovely woman (sadly, she passed away several years ago) and we got along great, but although she didn't push chiropractic as the cure for everything from acne to cancer and didn't buy into garbage like "applied kinesiology," she did think there was some validity to homeopathy, and she was also an anti-vaxxer... and boy did we have a LOT of arguments about that.
Completely not surprised...our two favorite doctors (a cardiologist and an ENT) got $0 in 2018. Even my kidney surgeon (who is actually really, really famous) only got $4000. And I know he does a lot of lecturing around the world....so I bet it is all meals and stuff like that. (When Melon had her “kidney” surgery he was the one the press quoted...especially the part about that that surgery, even with complications, does not keep you in the hospital for over two weeks).
😂😂😂Hey, way to make a whole bunch of asinine assumptions because you don’t like folks correcting your lies! What better way to convince people your cause is just than to engage in logical and reasoned dialog or, in your case, the opposite of that?
I will say I’m screencapping your screed and your melodramatic kneejerk rebuttal straight out of the 2010s to share with my fellow PREVENTIVE medicine researchers anytime we need a good laugh.
Thanks for letting me know my comments are private. Must be the default setting because I can’t be arsed to change anything about Disqus. However, if you couldn’t take the extra three clicks to figure out just how “private” I am, I’m not indulging you.
In conclusion, keep doing you. There’s an intellectual niche for everyone, and you’ll find it eventually.
I am sure you just got another check from the pharma group you represent. Preventative medicine my ass. Why all out support for drugs. Inquiring minds want to knopw
However, quite often the researchers are NOT on the drug companies' payroll - they working at Universities, public and otherwise, so in fact the American taxpayer is already paying for this drug research. I think marketing/advertising should be tied to actual research done by the drug companies, $1 advertising for every $3 research money.
This is interesting because I've been noticing a plethora of ads for Psoriasis medications recently and wondered, just how many people suffer from this? Clearly a new class of drugs has been discovered and now all of the drug companies are competing to get on top of that pile.
Imagine a time when the basic premise of this show will have to be explained in advance of watching it.
I appreciate the civility of your response. Slightly off-topic, but in the spirit of discussion, I offer this: I find when I go to a doctor's office, I have been asked not if I am on prescription drugs, but which ones I am taking, and my answer of `none' is received with a mild startle response. I should add that I don't think there is anything about my physical appearance to make anyone conclude that I should be taking pharmaceuticals on an ongoing basis. Ergo, the baseline expectation on the part of these people is that if you walk through the door seeking treatment, you are on drugs. I went to a doctor about a year ago because I had developed difficulty swallowing. He looked in my throat, and told me I had an ongoing medical condition that required prescription drugs for the rest of my life. I reluctantly but dutifully filled the scripts and took the meds, and then developed symptoms which he had expected me to have and which were only eased when I forgot to take one of the prescriptions a few days in a row. I became suspicious at that point, and had a diagnostic procedure done that revealed I did not have that condition, pitched the drugs in the trash, and have had no further issues. The lump in my throat resolved with no further treatment--just a mild and passing irritation/inflammation. I feel lucky to have dodged that bullet, but without my having pressed for further answers, I would have faced a lifetime of unneeded dependence on invasive and expensive medication. I was checking in for surgery one morning early this year at the same time as another patient, and overheard his response to the what-medications-are-you-on question. He gestured at a woman with him, said he didn't know, that was her department, and she rattled off what must have been a dozen drugs. As you said, people have their reasons, but the number surprised me. I have other friends whom I've known for many years, and watched them deteriorate physically and become dependent upon multiple prescriptions for conditions that are often the result of lifestyle choices. These experiences, and the default assumption on the part of medical caregivers that I am on prescription medicine as a way of life made me realize just how compromised the health of the general population may be. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this.
Four-and-change years ago I had life-changing knee surgery performed by a doctor (may his name be a blessing, as it was for me) and his team that cost my insurance company tens of thousands of dollars. He's the top teaching surgeon in this state for this procedure, and cleans up the messes other doctors create. (Okay, that's not how it's phrased, but yeah.) The surgeon took in $2K in travel, lodging, and food in 2018, including one payment for $12. I'm wondering what this could represent--bus fare? Lunch at McDonalds? This from a company that paid another doctor $32K in the same year. Do they not realize how gifted and wonderful this man is? Twelve bucks! I am outraged.
They tend to be rather insistent on staying right there, unless of course a tennis ball is in the offing.
I did forget to mention there are valid reasons everyone is asked about what medications they are taking.
Most people go to a doctor to demand medicine as a way to rapidly fix whatever is wrong. We are all to blame for this - providers, consumers, pharmaceutical marketers. That’s why we now have antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Ergo, because Americans want a pill to solve every problem, it’s a safe assumption that most folks are taking something.
Then there’s liability. If you don’t ask, you’re in danger of prescribing a drug that interacts with the current therapy. And patients don’t always think they’re at risk of this.
Here’s how that goes:Intake: “are you taking anything?”Patient: “Nope!”Intake: “What about over-the-counter? Like allergy medicine?”Patient: “oh! Yes, Sudafed for my sinuses.” (Narrator: Sudafed raises blood pressure)Intake: “Anything else?”Patient: “Nope!”
...except for the megadose multivitamin with extra calcium (blocks iron absorption), St. John’s Wort for mood, (many contraindications), and other supplements that can mask celiac disease or other deficiency disorders
Anyway, it’s become a safety protocol to assume the answer is yes. Have a nice day!
I used to do medical billing, first for a chiropractic practice, then for a pediatric practice.
At the chiropractic office, we didn't get many visits from reps at all - one homeopathic remedy salesdude came by and sold the chiropractor on his brand, and threw in a nifty stand on which to display the stuff we carried (over my objections), but that was it.
At the pediatric office, I have no idea what personal financial "incentives" the four doctors in the practice got (on this list, one got $18 and one got $0), but we were visited by each pharma rep about once a week. They invariably brought lunch-ish items... chocolate-covered strawberries, trays of shrimp cocktail, a variety of sandwiches, cake and cookies, and that sort of thing - and the office staff got very snarky about the free nosh if it wasn't luxurious enough.
he (Romney) was smarmier than that:
"corporations are people, my friend"
“over my objections”—good for you!
Of all quackery, homeopathy is the most irritating to me. Take something that causes the condition that you’re trying to cure, then dilute it until there is literally not a single molecule left. The water “remembers.” Imagine a homeopathic birth control preparation: take a sperm cell, place it in an olympic-sized swimming pool full of water, shake the jeebus out of it, take a drop of that water and repeat. Yes, that’s how dumb true homeopathy is. Thanks to Dean Edell, M.D. for that wunnerful analogy.
Any response to a true “homeopathic preparation” is placebo effect.
I know, once they've reached the age of majority we'll let them choose to opt out. But if you do then you can't join after you get sick or injured or gotten past the age of say 35. All out of pocket from that point. Nature will take its course from there.
Luckily, I was in charge of ordering refills, so unless we had patients asking for it, I ordered more of the "herbal" stuff and waaaaaay less of the homeopathic crap they sold.
The herbal crap was still crap, but it was less crappy than the tiny, useless, expensive bottles of water.
The chiropractor I worked for was a lovely woman (sadly, she passed away several years ago) and we got along great, but although she didn't push chiropractic as the cure for everything from acne to cancer and didn't buy into garbage like "applied kinesiology," she did think there was some validity to homeopathy, and she was also an anti-vaxxer... and boy did we have a LOT of arguments about that.
Wow, did not know this. Thanks for the info.
Completely not surprised...our two favorite doctors (a cardiologist and an ENT) got $0 in 2018. Even my kidney surgeon (who is actually really, really famous) only got $4000. And I know he does a lot of lecturing around the world....so I bet it is all meals and stuff like that. (When Melon had her “kidney” surgery he was the one the press quoted...especially the part about that that surgery, even with complications, does not keep you in the hospital for over two weeks).