I'm not clear on where this case is right now based on what I read, and forgive me, it's after my bed time, so I'm not entirely with it maybe, but - while this charge is pretty friggin egregious it also smacks of typical prosecutorial overcharging.
I got drunk and blacked out the month a bunch of friends of mine were murdered by a stranger in 2006. Apparently I did some property damage to a building. Don't remember it, ofc. They tried to charge me with felony burglary, which was ridiculous. Fuck alcohol was my takeaway from that, and being bipolar as shit besides it was probably for the best that I leave it well alone. The charge didn't stick, and I don't even think they expected it to. They expected me to plea. I got a private attorney and sorted it out without even going to trial, on a disorderly conduct and destruction of property charge, which was more reasonable, IMO.
That's what this looks like to me. It looks like they're throwing the book at her to get her to cop to the meth, probably because they can't prove shit and she doesn't look like she can get a lawyer.
Is it shitty? Yes. Is it wong? Absolutely.
Will she do 30 years? Almost certainly not. If this ever went to trial, the prosecution would have a bit of a problem finding a jury to give her 30 over an empty jar, and they know it.
It is possible to recrystallize meth dissolved in water. That would make a lot more sense than drinking it. It’s ridiculous to think anyone would be selling bong water/residue. Also - wtf is a drug tax? Who gets the drug tax? Does a dealer pay a percentage out of every sale? Or do you itemize your drug purchases and pay them with your income taxes? Weird.
I have not done anything so crass as to try to find the law and read it, but, based on my long ago relatively short experience as a tax lawyer, I will guess that it's a tax payable to the state on the value of drugs in one's possession. I can't think of another way that this delightful gentleman would be able to charge it often.
Courts should come down really hard on prosecutors and cops who manipulate drug laws to nail people for things they had no way of imagining they could be charged with. I remember reading a description of a case a long time ago where the undercover cop a guy was buying pot from put a whole lot more in the guy's trunk than he had arranged to buy so that it would go over a threshold that allowed them to throw a significantly larger book at him. The court didn't bat an eye at it. That's just foul. It's what made me realize that courts regularly threw (and probably still throw) the Constitution out the window once you say the word "drugs".
"TIL that you can buy meth bongs on Amazon and also that they are very expensive."
My first thoungt on seeing that bong was that it was a nice example of some tricky glass blowing. So I am not surprised that it is expensive. A workman should be paid what they're worth.
"One of these options is a reasonable option that will potentially save a life, the other is not just a stupid one, but a cruel and unusual one that could take away almost the whole rest of a woman’s life."
Mr. Buhler sounds like a regular law and order kind of guy - pretty sure he'll go for option 2.
I guess it’s time to drink that 50 year-old water from the Nixon bong - it should be perfectly aged - although no one I know has ever successfully consumed bong water - I’m sure it’s just a matter of aging -
I really have to make a joke of it because there are still people serving decades for possession of pot -
Former Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner (crying John) owns a yuge chunk of a marijuana corporation -
Cops have been pulling that distribution racket forever (2 joints - a pack of papers - a box of sandwich bags = major ring) -
It’s great that Biden is trying to move cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule III -
It’s wrong for Kamala to claim they have pardoned 10’s of thousands of prisoners - (it’s not even close and pisses off people that want to be on her side) -
"...a Minnesota State Trooper told the state supreme court that users sometimes save bong water 'for future use … either drinking it or shooting it in the veins'.”
Oh come on. We ALL know the only people who'd do that are people who'd gulp down horse tranquilizers and shoot bleach into their veins because PRESIDENT DAD told them to.
Ah, the old civil forfeiture routine. A chance to steal a car and $2400 encourages the cops to see meth in everything. They usually don't file charges though, why complicate things by needing actual evidence? That's just messy.
A guy I knew lost his Cessna 172 to the cops. They didn't invoke forfeiture, they just took it as evidence and moved it to a hangar they rented and dismantled it. Finding nothing in the plane and the case against him got dismissed, they gave it back to him in pieces and tried to charge him rent on the hangar. How dare he be a successful contractor with a beach home in Mexico?!
I'm not clear on where this case is right now based on what I read, and forgive me, it's after my bed time, so I'm not entirely with it maybe, but - while this charge is pretty friggin egregious it also smacks of typical prosecutorial overcharging.
I got drunk and blacked out the month a bunch of friends of mine were murdered by a stranger in 2006. Apparently I did some property damage to a building. Don't remember it, ofc. They tried to charge me with felony burglary, which was ridiculous. Fuck alcohol was my takeaway from that, and being bipolar as shit besides it was probably for the best that I leave it well alone. The charge didn't stick, and I don't even think they expected it to. They expected me to plea. I got a private attorney and sorted it out without even going to trial, on a disorderly conduct and destruction of property charge, which was more reasonable, IMO.
That's what this looks like to me. It looks like they're throwing the book at her to get her to cop to the meth, probably because they can't prove shit and she doesn't look like she can get a lawyer.
Is it shitty? Yes. Is it wong? Absolutely.
Will she do 30 years? Almost certainly not. If this ever went to trial, the prosecution would have a bit of a problem finding a jury to give her 30 over an empty jar, and they know it.
It is possible to recrystallize meth dissolved in water. That would make a lot more sense than drinking it. It’s ridiculous to think anyone would be selling bong water/residue. Also - wtf is a drug tax? Who gets the drug tax? Does a dealer pay a percentage out of every sale? Or do you itemize your drug purchases and pay them with your income taxes? Weird.
I have not done anything so crass as to try to find the law and read it, but, based on my long ago relatively short experience as a tax lawyer, I will guess that it's a tax payable to the state on the value of drugs in one's possession. I can't think of another way that this delightful gentleman would be able to charge it often.
Courts should come down really hard on prosecutors and cops who manipulate drug laws to nail people for things they had no way of imagining they could be charged with. I remember reading a description of a case a long time ago where the undercover cop a guy was buying pot from put a whole lot more in the guy's trunk than he had arranged to buy so that it would go over a threshold that allowed them to throw a significantly larger book at him. The court didn't bat an eye at it. That's just foul. It's what made me realize that courts regularly threw (and probably still throw) the Constitution out the window once you say the word "drugs".
Ta, Robyn. The prosecutor should be fired. Now.
"TIL that you can buy meth bongs on Amazon and also that they are very expensive."
My first thoungt on seeing that bong was that it was a nice example of some tricky glass blowing. So I am not surprised that it is expensive. A workman should be paid what they're worth.
Gee. The police wonder why they gave an image problem. Go figger.
> Can’t we please, for the love of God, be less stupid?
Have you even *met* us?
"It's like you don't even know me" <sniff>
Well, you know what else is a "mixture", a substance containing a controlled substance, regardless of purity?
Ms Beske herself!
Now the Drug Police can just toss her into the incinerator, no due process required!
Which would be better for society?
Locking her up for almost four decades or getting her into a treatment program so she becomes a more productive citizen?
"Better" isn't the question. "More profitable" is.
"Authorities also seized Beske’s car and $2,400 in cash"
Here's the real racket. The rest is just cover.
> Can’t we please, for the love of God, be less stupid?
Unfortunately, probably not
"One of these options is a reasonable option that will potentially save a life, the other is not just a stupid one, but a cruel and unusual one that could take away almost the whole rest of a woman’s life."
Mr. Buhler sounds like a regular law and order kind of guy - pretty sure he'll go for option 2.
I guess it’s time to drink that 50 year-old water from the Nixon bong - it should be perfectly aged - although no one I know has ever successfully consumed bong water - I’m sure it’s just a matter of aging -
I really have to make a joke of it because there are still people serving decades for possession of pot -
Former Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner (crying John) owns a yuge chunk of a marijuana corporation -
Cops have been pulling that distribution racket forever (2 joints - a pack of papers - a box of sandwich bags = major ring) -
It’s great that Biden is trying to move cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule III -
It’s wrong for Kamala to claim they have pardoned 10’s of thousands of prisoners - (it’s not even close and pisses off people that want to be on her side) -
users sometimes save bong water “for future use … either drinking it or shooting it in the veins.”
bullfrigginshit.
"...a Minnesota State Trooper told the state supreme court that users sometimes save bong water 'for future use … either drinking it or shooting it in the veins'.”
Oh come on. We ALL know the only people who'd do that are people who'd gulp down horse tranquilizers and shoot bleach into their veins because PRESIDENT DAD told them to.
Ah, the old civil forfeiture routine. A chance to steal a car and $2400 encourages the cops to see meth in everything. They usually don't file charges though, why complicate things by needing actual evidence? That's just messy.
A guy I knew lost his Cessna 172 to the cops. They didn't invoke forfeiture, they just took it as evidence and moved it to a hangar they rented and dismantled it. Finding nothing in the plane and the case against him got dismissed, they gave it back to him in pieces and tried to charge him rent on the hangar. How dare he be a successful contractor with a beach home in Mexico?!
Defund the motherfucking police already.