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Ta, Evan. Slava Ukraini. 🌻🇺🇦💙💛

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I can see them dumping a bunch of deep fakes just before the election, flooding the social media etc, when there's no time to mount a campaign to correct the misinformation. There are a lot of Americans who aren't sophisticated consumers of information & who could be swayed (see Swiftboating, and Comey announce investigation)

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Oct 4, 2023·edited Oct 4, 2023

Yep:

Guy who went to war and was wounded in combat?

Weakling.

Guy who got posh posting in Reserves and AWOL a lot:

Warrior.

WTAF.

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Guy who actually went to Vietnam and fought for his country? Who was awarded a Bronze Star, a Silver Star, and three Purple Hearts?

Unamerican.

Guy who stupidly got us into two quagmire wars but had zero combat experience, never fired a shot in anger and had zero family in the military?

Patriot!

Guy who played sports in high school and college but faked a bone spur to get out of serving? Zero family members have served in the military?

Patriot!

Guy whose son fought in Afghanistan and died of cancer, probably contracted there? Whose son was awarded a Bronze Star and the Legion of Merit (posthumously)?

Communist/Socialist stooge!

I'm starting to see a pattern. Maybe they should ask Gen Kelly what he thinks about repub patriots.

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Well the first step of his nefarious plan was obviously to get Elon Musk onboard. And now Xitter is just a fountain of disinformation and Russian propaganda.

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He seems a willing participant. At what point is he considered an enemy of the US?

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About two months ago.

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I can’t think of anyone I hate more than Putin

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Only because Trump isn’t actively murdering people… yet.

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Biden and the American MIC better pony up and deal with this BS. I am in Slovakia right now and it's a gorgeous country. Be a shame if anything were to happen to it. Then who's next? Chechia? The Baltic States? All of Georgia?

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The sudetenland should start looking over its shoulder especially since biden wants to drag us into ww2

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Supporting Putin makes you a traitor. If you're Russian you're a Russian traitor for supporting someone who has been horrible for Russia.

So are you an American traitor or a Russian traitor?

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Your sarcasm meter needs recalibration. He was making a joke referring to Trump telling us that Biden was dragging us into World War Two [sic].

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I thought the sudetenland reference might be a bit obscure so I threw in the ww2 comment just to make it obvious this was snark but even that wasn't enough lol

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Also it's "she" 😁

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The constant barrage of bullshit and bad news is leaving us all a bit chafed.

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And PAB wants fly to Moscow and afterwards proclaim peace in our time.

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My unfortunate representative in congress, "Mad Mary" Miller is against any aid to Ukraine and as a bonus also wants to shut down our government. Republicans are just anarchists now.

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Got me some Boeboe🤡 here.

I feel your pain.

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oh man, i'm so sorry. she bugs me so damn much and i hate that she's part of the IL caucus (i'm in Chi and i always forget how many of you are stranded in political hellscapes).

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"ME LIBELZ!" -- Johnny Rotten

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Not a cent for the country that literally got invaded just because its neighbor felt like taking it... but Bibi gets his $3.3 billion for illegal settlements and supply blockades and machine-gunning 11-year-old kids for throwing rocks.

Arsenal of democracy, my ass.

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Who was it that said of Israel that it's all about the Benjamins? She was correct.

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Tlaib or Pressley, iirc. She got in trouble for it. So tired of the bullshit from the right, but this week should be interesting as the House tries to function. I hope Hakeem Jeffries gets elected.

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Can the shit stop getting weird already? Kinda tired of living in "interesting times".

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"interesting times" is the new normal now.

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It's not like the US doesn't have a history of interfering in elections in other countries as well... NED, that brags it does overtly what the CIA used to do covertly (including direct payments to fake opposition parties, and though state sponsored "NGOs". There is plenty of evidence that the NED, etc. were involved in the 2014 changes in Ukraine, and Zelensky's election, to take one example.

Not so much a "whataboutist" remark, but simply noting that countries always try to influence elections in other nations to reflect their interests. The US is a harder nut to crack, and I don't know that Russia has to work all that hard (given Trump's bizarre popularity for reasons that make no sense to me, but seem to for all too many people), but I'd be surprised if even countries like Mexico or Canada don't spend money and resources attempting to prop up various candidates who back whatever is in their own interests when it comes to US elections also.

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"There is plenty of evidence that the NED, etc. were involved in the 2014 changes in Ukraine, and Zelensky's election" Liar.

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To be precise, in the "Maidan revolt"... a google search of "Maindan" and "NED" shows numerous sources, including "mainstream" media. Zelensky's election was largely financed by the "oligarch", Ihor Kolomoisky, as reported at the time by Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-election-zelenskiy-oligarch-idUSKCN1RD30L), Politico (https://www.politico.eu/article/volodomyr-zelenskiy-ihor-kolomoisky-the-comedian-and-the-oligarch-ukraine-presidential-election/) and other western sources... hardly a Russian propaganda campaign.

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The sources I found doing your suggested search were articles from NED itself bringing Ukrainian activists to panel discussions about how Ukraine's anticorruption efforts evolved, and articles from "Jacobin" and other Putinite tankie sources. And I have no idea why you think naming a Ukrainian backer of Zelenskyy supports your accusation that his support was not from within Ukraine.

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True, the U.S. has a record of interfering with other countries elections. And in places like Iran, Chile, and the Philippines, helping them do away with elections entirely

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Think how happy he is to have Elon's X as basically a propaganda pipeline. All those journalists and all those rubes in one place, and the guy at the helm will push his agitprop right to the top of everyone's feed.

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I don't know when a significant number of Americans will realize that the United States has been at war with Russia since about 2008. It's a"gray zone" conflict, so it's not the kind of war Americans are familiar with, well-prepared for, and fantasize about -- the kind with massive air strikes and fleet actions and mechanized forces storming across battlefields. It's a war in which political manipulation, international crime, and all forms of terrorism and infiltration are every bit as important as aircraft carrier battle groups and hypersonic missiles.

The Wall came down in 1989 and the Soviet Union fell apart in 1991 and we thought, "Yippee! We won the war!" But we didn't. We won a respite, but it lasted only twenty years.

Putin may be a madman, though I'm not sure that matters. He has vowed to destroy the United States, its allies, and the concepts of representational democracy and the rule of law. He inherits these goals from the ideological indoctrination he received as a young Soviet. Over his lifetime he has never changed his spots. We thought we could do business with him, but we can't. He is not to be trusted, he is not to be tolerated, and there is no place in the world for him or his adherents.

I don't know if it will be possible to have peace in Eurasia. If the Russian Federation falls apart, there is likely to be long-lasting conflict over its carcass. If it holds together under its present leadership, or under any kind of leadership that the millennium-long history of Russia shows that nation to be capable of, there is likely to be persistent global conflict such as we saw from the late 1940s through the late 1980s. There is no good, simple resolution to this problem. Call me Cassandra and show me the door -- all I see in the future is horror and blood.

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we have always been at war with............

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That ran through my head yesterday, as I was reading NATO and DoD materials on the situation. Orwell was writing fiction but it couldn't be truer (that's why he was so good at it).

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yes, I've always been in awe of how far ahead Orwell could see while also seeing what was right in front of him, plus he could really put words to paper without fanfare.

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Half the republican caucus regularly daydreams of Putin blowing wet fascist raspberries on their bare bellies, does he really have to work all that hard to get them on board?

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Jordan is wearing a coat.

that must mean something

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founding

That IS disturbing. Just like Jorden.

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It's a coverup!

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Oct 3, 2023·edited Oct 3, 2023

It means he's an asshole. Oh, never mind, he's an asshole no matter what he's wearing.

I think you have to wear one on the actual House floor. Just not in committee meetings.

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I thought they tabled this shit...huh...

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The motion to table went down in flames.

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Hell no. The hardcores are determined to give Qev the boot.

This is an embarrassing shit-storm of dangerous, dysfunctional histrionics.

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You say that now, but just wait until they replace him with Gritty.

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I thought their top three candidates were:

1. Kyle Rittenhouse

2. Tim Ballard

3. Matt Gaetz' Crusty Cum Sock

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At least #3 would be smarter than the first two.

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I tuned out too soon...

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They're now debating the issue prior to the final vote. Rob Goode is currently trashing Biden and talking shit about the hallucinogenic heroics of the GQP.

I decided it was time for an alcoholic beverage.

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Last dude went all BOREDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Good. Good GOOD GOOD

We of the Goode families reject him.

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I sat around for the table vote but Goode lost me within 3 minutes. I have work I should be doing anyway.

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Nope. McCarthy lost 11.

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I tuned out too soon...

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Putin will be around for awhile. Never underestimate the amount of suffering that Russians will bear. For one thing, they are living in Russia.

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Gaetz has said yesterday and today that there are 100 people in the House who he thought could be Speaker, and also that there are (strangely) 100 people *in the country* who he thought could be Speaker. So he's leaving the door open for a non-Congresscritter to be Speaker.

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Nestor? That would be nepotism. or pedophilia.

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TFG

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The hardcore MAGAts want Drumpfuck installed as Speaker.

[shudder of all-consuming revulsion]

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Probably need a Pronouncer if so, to interpret what he mumbles.

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That would involve showing up for “work”.

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Then all they have to do is simultaneously impeach Biden and Harris, and voila!

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Nope. Impeach and convict. The second isn't happening. There may be enough Republican Congressmen with self-preservation instincts that the first won't happen either.

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You're not thinking like them.

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Thank you for the compliment.

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Yes, they do.

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yes. that was the original storyline after the last election

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