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Peter T Hooper's avatar

I think the Democratic Party — some aggressive group of the Democratic Party who are not directly associated with the Harris campaign — needs to go on the attack, NOW, toward each and every one of those election deniers holding election offices. They should take hold of any handles of attack they can, not excluding skeletons in closets.

I do not think it wise to wait around.

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Peter T Hooper's avatar

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=of9OP_a6MNg&feature=youtu.be

I think the Democratic Party — some aggressive group of the Democratic Party who are not directly associated with the Harris campaign — needs to go on the attack, NOW, toward each and every one of those election deniers holding election offices. They should take hold of any handles of attack they can, not excluding skeletons in closets.

I do not think it wise to wait around.

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ML's avatar

Rachel Maddow still believes in Russian election interference.

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Stranger Than Friction's avatar

OK, Wonkette. You and the other news sites are going to have to help connect us average sane voters with those who can help to prevent this cheating from coming to pass--or from sticking. I cannot provide any positive vibes to the wavering friends, relatives, and acquaintances otherwise. Sure, we can all show up and vote, but if there is ratfcking between us and electoral count certification, what then? Of course, arresting those who try this could help, but the RW toads sitting athwart the SCOTUS are ready to assist. I'm trying to keep an even keel here, but HELP! I mean, do we need to allow in election observers from the UN?

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Major Is My Spirit Animal's avatar

Well then I guess Biden can declare the election null and void and decide to remain as President as "Communists" are trying to ratfuck the election and as he's doing an "official act" of defending the Constitution then he can declare Kamala "Elections Czar" and let her loose on these Quislings.

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Littorally Speaking's avatar

Sounds like the perfect opportunity to try out the shiny new presidential immunity that nice Supreme Court gave Brandon!

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Dok. We have to drown the other side in a huge blue tsunami of zillions and gajillions of VOTES. Do whatever you can, whether that is donating money or time (registering new voters, knocking on doors, postcarding, etc.). And your daily reminder, especially if you reside in a red state: CHECK YOUR REGISTRATION. This is going to take every one of us doing all we can.

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subterrene's avatar

I was just thinking about 2016 Lat night. Hillary won the popular vote but lost. And I seem to remember here on this mommyblog and elsewhere that there was talk that were electors who said they were giving their vote to Trump even before the election was run. Is that something like these pricks refusing to certify? We all know about the fake electors in 2020. I'm just trying to parse how many ways they could ratfuck the next election, because I know PAB and his cronies are planning to.

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Lefty Wright's avatar

Biden had better have plans in effect to send in federal officials to monitor any state and county election officials talking about not certifying vote counts. And arrest them immediately if they do not do their job. Remember, it's not just a problem of certifying a county vote of 60% Trump, 40% Biden. That is not enough for these assholes, because "everyone I know voted for Trump so I think he got 90% of the vote". Of course trying to flip the entire state by adding thousands of fraudulent votes Gor Trump. Or kick it back to a GOP legislature, governor, or secretary of state to hold off. Which then goes to Congress, with just one vote per state. Meaning Trump may win even if he loses by 15 million votes. There might be a war if that happens. One thing Trump has made obvious is that the country has existed for almost 240 years because until McConnell and Trump, all politicians respected the intent of the constitution. Because the actual language of the constitution has several big holes allowing authoritarian dominance. Especially when assisted by a corrupt Supreme Court controlled by religious zealots.

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WTAF 🐾's avatar

💗💯🙏🇺🇸💪

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Ward From Cali's avatar

One (additional) advantage we have here is that, not only is Joe Biden the guy in the White House and bossing the executive branch, but since he is not longer running for re-election himself, he will have a bit more freedom to act in ways that would rally national opposition if he were doing it for his own benefit.

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WTAF 🐾's avatar

💗🙏💯🇺🇸💪

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WTAF 🐾's avatar

Well thanks for sobering and mellow harshing Ratfucking Repukes Realities Doc! 😳🫣😬😜😅😉

Legit, 💯 TY Doc for doing more the Heavy Lifting helpful reminders where & how we need stay focussed on keeping this democracy if we can. Thanks dogs for Marc Elias, def American Hero we need these trying times. I abso would go forward w the 💯 conviction & hopefully in depth understanding that R’s will of course do anything and everything they can to ratfuck this election, their CrimeLard’s depends diapereddon filthy asshole freedom (to crime unchecked) (& mega NPD ego/ existence) is on the literal 2024 ballot /line. So is Americas future. Beyond greatfull Marc Elias. omfg merrick & every democrat, pls for the love of America, embrace Ur inner Walz, and Mesa Mayor, etc and do not get out maneuvered, out messaged, outplayed by MAGAt losers deserve lose and must be made to accept that they do not get to cheat, game the system and snatch fraudulent AntiAmerican undemocratic Victory from jaws their magat defeat. It’s bonkers that Elias has to be worried and sound alarm that the magat clowns are more organized, prepared, & ruthlessly committed to turning their inevitable defeat into a win cuz Dems are too damn ?! squishy, willfully still behaving blindly, refusing prepare for inevitability & organize strong offense & hold line defense & be prepared to insist Dems Win is actual Win and going to be future cuz that’s what Americans are voting for Americans/ Democracy, better broader Wholer Future. Do not suck merrick & Dems. Do not go gently into magat nightmare

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Major Is My Spirit Animal's avatar

I'm betting that this time is going to be significantly different, and that there are plans upon plans being made to counter this anti-democratic push when it happens. Like a full-on use of every tool in the box, after all if they are going to insist that the Dems have weaponized the Justice Department then perhaps that will be the way to go. I can see background investigations into these choads revealing lots of indictable actions that might find them behind bars before they get to say boo about the election results.

Jack Smith has time on his hands, I'd say give him something to do.

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Greg's avatar

If a democratic incumbent president lets the supreme court and their "army" install Trump - oh wait, the supreme court does not have an army. The president does. Also law enforcement tools, etc. etc. etc. If the supreme court installs Trump as our Glorious Leader Forever and elected democratic officials stand by and let it happen?

Hmmm... that'll be fucked.

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Sherry's avatar

Also too. Complete immunity for acting like, presential and all. He can hopefully circumvent any election rat fucking, as Mashmouf mentioned.

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fair_n_hite_451's avatar

The one advantage to the US system of having an election in November but the hand over of power 2 months later is that Biden can hopefully shut that shit down pretty fucking quick.

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Sherry's avatar

And the perpetrators will hopefully be pointed out.

Now the MAGA’s claim that they’ll be “watching” the voting locations. Be funny, as unorganized they are, if they are the ones that catch the dolts.

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WTAF 🐾's avatar

THIS!!! 💯

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orangecat's avatar

So what organizations are working on strategies to stop this plan?

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PuraVida's avatar

Maybe some of the millions being donated to Kamala should go to Marc Elias instead.

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WTAF 🐾's avatar

& how can Dems/ neutrals/ not cult magat fascists become electors going forward protect against administrative / ministerial clownfucking by losers committed to showing up, doing the work to defeat democracy every level

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WTAF 🐾's avatar

This is critically important question, I wonder if there’s a way to elevate this, force PTB awareness that we’re alll watching and expecting them be at least as prepared, organized & ruthlessly committed preserving our democracy as magat clown asshole losers are to defeating it in clowniest unacceptable ways possible. Let’s elevate this, TY!

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Gary Seven in Space's avatar

OHJB is killing a speech now...I will miss him...

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Gary Seven in Space's avatar

Well, TBF Alito says straight up, "One side must win" and we know where he stands.....

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Ward From Cali's avatar

Yeah, this is worrying. Dok, being a mere Doctor of Rhetoric rather than a lawyer or a Constitutional specialist, leaves out an important aspect. If Trumpys can gum up the acceptance of enough Electoral College votes to deny Harris a majority, it throws the election to the House of Representatives. Where the votes are cast and tallied by state delegations, not individual Representatives. Thanks to the preponderance of small-population rural states, Republicans have a built in edge there that's almost impossible to beat.

It's also too late to ensure that we have strong candidates in every red district that's even remotely possible to win. We will just have to hope that that has happened already.

Later (soon later) we will need to identify individual districts that might benefit from outside assistance. I'll be looking at that myself no later than this weekend.

But I can identify one right now: Mary Peltola in Alaska. She was recently elected to the House in a special election, you may recall. She is running for her first regular re-election this year. And she would cast Alaska's vote for President in the House all by herself. Hers is a must-hold seat. Act accordingly.

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