So in other words, the corporate media needs to stop pulling how Americans feel about the economy since Republicans don’t have critical thinking skills? Or do they stop grading Republicans on the world’s steepest curve?
I don't even know how to respond to this. I'm still in a deep funk, feeling betrayed by Dems who couldn't fucking bother to vote, and furious at the lack of integrity from the media. I haven't been here much because I'm trying not to descend further into depression and complete WTF-ness.
Reminded of Karl Popper's "Paradox of Democracy" on a podcast and well, here we are. Voted ourselves right the fuck out of democracy.
Don't give up. I'm struggling too. Had the weirdest day today, trying to cope with all of it - we'll get through it. They're not to going to beat us, or at least I'm not going down without a fight! Stay strong!
I knew our "terrible" economy was going to become the greatest economy in American history the day after Trump is sworn in. I didn't think they'd get such a head start on it. But I underestimated how completely delusional his supporters are.
Also multiple drufues show about 60% of inflation was due to corporate greed and not supply chain disruptions which Biden and Pete helped sort out in terms of shipping and port logistics. This is all well and good proving GOPers are delusional cult members but how do we defeat this insanity so we don’t have to live with the consequences of their delusions.
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Phillip Bump points out recent polling that seems to show Trump’s win has led many GOP voters to see the US economy in a far better light (WaPo gift link) since November 5, even though Trump has yet to actually have any influence on the economy.
Or, and hear me out, it was never about the fucking economic anxiety, that was just an excuse the journalists gave to them to use.
I accept that the lowest 20 or 30% of the income distribution have anxiety, and good reason for it. I'd note that turnout for the lowest income segment where we can talk about objective economic anxiety (say 30% of income going to housing costs) have
I'll accept that the 20 to 70% range have some anxiety, based on real wage stagnation for the 0 to 40% for the last four decades, precariousness of staying in the middle class (threat of medical debt, real housing and education cost increases, being subject to large social and economic dislocations in 2007 and 2020, an awareness of power and wealth migrating to the 70% + segment, etc.). But I'm not sure that current precarious feeling corresponds to an objectively more precarious position than for previous generations, who also had considerably less material affluence, shorter lifespans, etc. Previous generations didn't (much) turn to fascism (in the US) despite a depression, several wars and regular recessions or bouts of much higher inflation and ameliorative interest rates. They also had a better sense of who their enemies were and voted accordingly.
Wasn't really talking about people, more about how the press presents things
Though, if you talk to a MAGAt long enough, they will eventually get around to telling you which people it is we should get rid of (spoiler: it is someone not like them).
"all the economic growth stats were all phony under Obama and then the very same stats became honest once Trump took office."
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The red hats have been wholly committed to hypocrisy for years, and rarely bother to even pretend otherwise.
They believe that what makes you moral or immoral is who you are, not what you do. If you’re in their in-group everything you do is moral, and if you’re in their out group everything you do is immoral -- *even if it’s the same thing*.
That’s why evangelicals embraced Trump once they decided he was in the in-group -- because they never had any real moral beliefs about actions, their beliefs essentially boil down to “us vs them.” It’s why you can’t sink a Republican when their misdeeds come to light -- because they’re literally not misdeeds if that person pays lip service to the in group.
Their morality is as simple as “one of us” or “not one of us” and all the stuff they say their morality is based on, what actions are sinful etc., is just so much hot air. They don’t believe in anything but always backing their clique against all outsiders.
Is it? Or is it crappy American chocolate, stuffed full of fats and preservatives the kind that the rest of the world's chocolate eaters describe as actual garbage?
It will be interesting to see how republicans will spin the forthcoming higher inflation and higher interest rates under the new admin. Guessing they'll just keep flooding the media with contempt and blame and hatred for the "libs" so as to divert angst and bitterness to believe they're still victims of liberal evil ways and the devil and solar flares or something.
Seriously. Remember the first years of the W Bush administration? Republicans controlled the presidency, both houses of congress, and the supreme court, and yet were somehow still endlessly victims of the left. I guess we were going to steal Christmas or something? Pathological persecution complex!
"It will be interesting to see how republicans will spin the forthcoming higher inflation and higher interest rates under the new admin."
`
Their master will just tell them that he made everything cost a penny, and they'll slap their flippers together and bark, like they've been trained to, and ignore whatever it says on the cash register.
Prof Tim Snyder tried to teach us that years ago after Donald's first win
It's called sado-populism
They inflict vicious harm on their voters and then tell them to blame a minority group for it -- and the rubes fall for it because it sanctions their hate and lets them be their worst selves
So in other words, the corporate media needs to stop pulling how Americans feel about the economy since Republicans don’t have critical thinking skills? Or do they stop grading Republicans on the world’s steepest curve?
Attention span: fifty attoseconds.
Why's it gotta be a chocolate ration, Dok?
Racist.
Yet another graphic showing that Republicans are stupid and/or crazy.
I don't even know how to respond to this. I'm still in a deep funk, feeling betrayed by Dems who couldn't fucking bother to vote, and furious at the lack of integrity from the media. I haven't been here much because I'm trying not to descend further into depression and complete WTF-ness.
Reminded of Karl Popper's "Paradox of Democracy" on a podcast and well, here we are. Voted ourselves right the fuck out of democracy.
Don't give up. I'm struggling too. Had the weirdest day today, trying to cope with all of it - we'll get through it. They're not to going to beat us, or at least I'm not going down without a fight! Stay strong!
Thank you!
"BuT thE EcoNomY's BettER in AnTiCIpatioN of TrUMp WiNNing tHe ElecTioN!"
I knew our "terrible" economy was going to become the greatest economy in American history the day after Trump is sworn in. I didn't think they'd get such a head start on it. But I underestimated how completely delusional his supporters are.
Most people can’t remember what they had for dinner last night, let alone how they were doing four years ago. It’s a crap question.
Republicans have mastered the art of fear-mongering. Dems, being reasonable people, have no idea how to fight that.
Also multiple drufues show about 60% of inflation was due to corporate greed and not supply chain disruptions which Biden and Pete helped sort out in terms of shipping and port logistics. This is all well and good proving GOPers are delusional cult members but how do we defeat this insanity so we don’t have to live with the consequences of their delusions.
More like EIGHTY FUCKING PERCENT
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Fibonacci -- it's as easy as 1, 1, 2, 3...
The stupid, it burns
Phillip Bump points out recent polling that seems to show Trump’s win has led many GOP voters to see the US economy in a far better light (WaPo gift link) since November 5, even though Trump has yet to actually have any influence on the economy.
Or, and hear me out, it was never about the fucking economic anxiety, that was just an excuse the journalists gave to them to use.
I accept that the lowest 20 or 30% of the income distribution have anxiety, and good reason for it. I'd note that turnout for the lowest income segment where we can talk about objective economic anxiety (say 30% of income going to housing costs) have
I'll accept that the 20 to 70% range have some anxiety, based on real wage stagnation for the 0 to 40% for the last four decades, precariousness of staying in the middle class (threat of medical debt, real housing and education cost increases, being subject to large social and economic dislocations in 2007 and 2020, an awareness of power and wealth migrating to the 70% + segment, etc.). But I'm not sure that current precarious feeling corresponds to an objectively more precarious position than for previous generations, who also had considerably less material affluence, shorter lifespans, etc. Previous generations didn't (much) turn to fascism (in the US) despite a depression, several wars and regular recessions or bouts of much higher inflation and ameliorative interest rates. They also had a better sense of who their enemies were and voted accordingly.
NOPE.
First para truncated, add "... [have] lower turnout, so we're not talking about election-determining voters."
Wasn't really talking about people, more about how the press presents things
Though, if you talk to a MAGAt long enough, they will eventually get around to telling you which people it is we should get rid of (spoiler: it is someone not like them).
edit: Also, good mornin!
Hi and good morning. Sorry for the long comment, I had a brief attack of itchy comment finger.
"all the economic growth stats were all phony under Obama and then the very same stats became honest once Trump took office."
`
The red hats have been wholly committed to hypocrisy for years, and rarely bother to even pretend otherwise.
They believe that what makes you moral or immoral is who you are, not what you do. If you’re in their in-group everything you do is moral, and if you’re in their out group everything you do is immoral -- *even if it’s the same thing*.
That’s why evangelicals embraced Trump once they decided he was in the in-group -- because they never had any real moral beliefs about actions, their beliefs essentially boil down to “us vs them.” It’s why you can’t sink a Republican when their misdeeds come to light -- because they’re literally not misdeeds if that person pays lip service to the in group.
Their morality is as simple as “one of us” or “not one of us” and all the stuff they say their morality is based on, what actions are sinful etc., is just so much hot air. They don’t believe in anything but always backing their clique against all outsiders.
And revenge. And perceived slights and grievances. And searching for The Other Who Is Not Like Me to blame.
At least the chocolate ration is high-grade stuff.
Is it? Or is it crappy American chocolate, stuffed full of fats and preservatives the kind that the rest of the world's chocolate eaters describe as actual garbage?
It will be interesting to see how republicans will spin the forthcoming higher inflation and higher interest rates under the new admin. Guessing they'll just keep flooding the media with contempt and blame and hatred for the "libs" so as to divert angst and bitterness to believe they're still victims of liberal evil ways and the devil and solar flares or something.
Seriously. Remember the first years of the W Bush administration? Republicans controlled the presidency, both houses of congress, and the supreme court, and yet were somehow still endlessly victims of the left. I guess we were going to steal Christmas or something? Pathological persecution complex!
"It will be interesting to see how republicans will spin the forthcoming higher inflation and higher interest rates under the new admin."
`
Their master will just tell them that he made everything cost a penny, and they'll slap their flippers together and bark, like they've been trained to, and ignore whatever it says on the cash register.
Prof Tim Snyder tried to teach us that years ago after Donald's first win
It's called sado-populism
They inflict vicious harm on their voters and then tell them to blame a minority group for it -- and the rubes fall for it because it sanctions their hate and lets them be their worst selves
https://youtu.be/oOjJtEkKMX4?si=8sEfcNQn9RsffPaY
LBJ also spoke on this, many many years ago
I can quote it like I was born knowing it
Please teach your White cousins and friends as they too are about to find their civil rights rolled back even though they generally have no idea
https://xcancel.com/Fly_Sistah/status/1860317704734888165?s=19