Of fucking COURSE it's "troubling" to THEM. They've been pushing people around for half a century, and at this point, they have literally no other methods.
"The monthly jobs report from the Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics showed unexpectedly strong job growth, with 336,000 nonfarm jobs added to the economy in September. The unemployment rate remained stubbornly good at 3.8 percent, the same as last month, and pretty much all the other employment stats — broken down by race and sex and long-term unemployment and favorite baseball team — remained pretty much unchanged,"
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Cue the red hats hooting and squealing about how the numbers are fake, "they" changed the way "they" count jobs, some youtube video is a more authoritative source of labor statistics than the actual Bureau of Labor Statistics, etc. etc.
If Wonkette can get this point across in a two minute read, so can the billion dollar generating mass media complex. The only reason polls show people thing the republicans are better on the economy is because outlets like the NYT sell this fiction as fact.
Economic news is complex largely because the reporting of the news assumes - ok I'll leave it at that. The assumptions are, at best, aspirational, and at worst, horribly wrong. What matters is the story, and Dems need to do better at painting it in a way that is relatable. This is the only way to counter the noise.
I see you using FACTS to support an argument, there, Dok. BUT, STILL, if you poll the American public, I'd guarantee you that a LARGE majority will tell you that Republicans are better for the economy. I KNOW, because after the mini-depression of 2008, which was created ENTIRELY by Republican deregulation, and during which I lost MY JOB, the majority of Americans STILL SAID that Republicans were better for the economy. The mind boggles.
The economy is always crap under Republicans going back at least to Hoover. They have no freaking clue how economies work, none, and the only time the economy is at least temporarily good under them is when they're inheriting it from a Democratic administration.
That "Republicans better at economy" is the best marketing success story of the last century. The press repeats it as objective truth that people trust republicans more with the economy, despite the fact that democrats keep winning elections after republicans drive the economy in a ditch with their magical thinking and marriage to the extraction industries and billionaires.
"That "Republicans better at economy" is the best marketing success story of the last century. The press repeats it as objective truth that people trust republicans more with the economy, despite the fact that democrats keep winning elections after republicans drive the economy in a ditch"
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Yeah, but they slash the social safety nets, and the people who vote Republican, or who would ever vote Republican, like that, even if it harms them.
I could be wrong, but I think people are beginning to wise up though. When the 2008 crash happened, Obama beat McCain and then Romney - both of whom were classic "safe-with-the-economy" Republicans. There was also a good chance Hillary could have beat Dump if it hadn't been for the FBI screwing her with that nonsense; and she did win the popular vote. Hopefully I'm right.
Lester Holt just read the jobs report and followed with "Not everyone is benefiting from the strong job market" and did a segment about an Missouri town loosing it's Tyson chicken plant, the main employer. NBC evening news can always find a way to dampen enthusiasm for Democratic administrations and their effects on the economy, even if they have to go find a single plant closing in a one horse town.
""Not everyone is benefiting from the strong job market" and did a segment about an Missouri town loosing it's Tyson chicken plant, the main employer."
Capitalism can never do wrong; it can only be wronged. When the workers got the company's foot ever so slightly off their necks, the company packed up and left town -- but somehow, it's the fault of "the strong job market", or Joe Biden, or "woke", or some goddamn nonsense.
With no context as to why this DEEPLY Republican state is losing these jobs. It's like they'd rather die than ever, EVER admit that Rule by Republicans is bad for actual people.
Or that Tyson supports Republicans, that the people there vote Republican or that lively counterweight: if the economy is doing well, there has to be a town, family or company that’s doing well. Go find them, NBC. And while you’re at it, release those Apprentice tapes of Asshole making racial slurs.
Evidently there are no Obama or Biden fans, or perhaps most of them live in tunnels underground, only coming up every four years for supplies and to vote.
The biggest challenges this economy is facing is the supply chain and employment disruption that is still lingering from (the poor handling by PAB of) COVID. Signs like the ubiquitous "please be patient with us, we are short staffed". Stores are randomly out of staples that would never be the case before 2020. Times when you could walk out of a store with a full cart because the only person there is on a bathroom break. There is no hint of this "looming" recession. People are vacationing and travelling like no tomorrow. Buying $50,000 vehicles. Home sales still hot & prices rising. On the plus - eggs $1.35, gas $3.20 today, interest on zero-risk-to-principal cash > 5%. Employees unionizing and winning. Student loan debt disappearing. Drag queens, books banned. Guns everywhere. Where is all this bad?
"Stores are randomly out of staples that would never be the case before 2020."
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We haven't been able to find sponges for weeks.
SPONGES. THAT YOU CLEAN THE KITCHEN SINK WITH.
We LITERALLY ended up having to order sponges off of ebay, because all the stores have been out of them for long enough that we used up all the sponges we have.
"If you don't like your job, go get a better one."
"OK." *quits and gets better one*
"Hey, what about my burger?"
Isn't this exactly the way the Free Market [tm] is SUPPOSED to work?
The wonderful, perfect Free Market [tm] that's the solution to every problem, that they can't blow ENOUGH when it's keeping people in poverty?
::Marge Simpson voice:: The NYT pitchbot turned into The Onion so gradually that I didn't even notice.
Of fucking COURSE it's "troubling" to THEM. They've been pushing people around for half a century, and at this point, they have literally no other methods.
Yeah, but the balance tipping ever so slightly in our favor will inconvenience eight white billionaires, and we certainly can't have THAT, now can we?
"The monthly jobs report from the Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics showed unexpectedly strong job growth, with 336,000 nonfarm jobs added to the economy in September. The unemployment rate remained stubbornly good at 3.8 percent, the same as last month, and pretty much all the other employment stats — broken down by race and sex and long-term unemployment and favorite baseball team — remained pretty much unchanged,"
`
Cue the red hats hooting and squealing about how the numbers are fake, "they" changed the way "they" count jobs, some youtube video is a more authoritative source of labor statistics than the actual Bureau of Labor Statistics, etc. etc.
If Wonkette can get this point across in a two minute read, so can the billion dollar generating mass media complex. The only reason polls show people thing the republicans are better on the economy is because outlets like the NYT sell this fiction as fact.
Economic news is complex largely because the reporting of the news assumes - ok I'll leave it at that. The assumptions are, at best, aspirational, and at worst, horribly wrong. What matters is the story, and Dems need to do better at painting it in a way that is relatable. This is the only way to counter the noise.
Economists; "Is a good economy bad? Maybe. Is a bad economy good? Maybe." Thank you very much.
I see you using FACTS to support an argument, there, Dok. BUT, STILL, if you poll the American public, I'd guarantee you that a LARGE majority will tell you that Republicans are better for the economy. I KNOW, because after the mini-depression of 2008, which was created ENTIRELY by Republican deregulation, and during which I lost MY JOB, the majority of Americans STILL SAID that Republicans were better for the economy. The mind boggles.
The persistent national feeling that the GOP is better for the economy when they are demonstrably worse (and worse by a lot!) is so fucking enraging.
Ta, Dok. I've been voting since 1972, and never once for a Republican. They represent chaos; economic and otherwise. Vote them out and keep them out.
People working?
This is bad news for Biden.
The economy is always crap under Republicans going back at least to Hoover. They have no freaking clue how economies work, none, and the only time the economy is at least temporarily good under them is when they're inheriting it from a Democratic administration.
"The economy is always crap under Republicans"
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That's a feature, not a bug.
The economy is crap under Republicans because they deliberately break the economy and pocket what's left of the proceeds.
Yep. Everything goes on sale and they love it.
That "Republicans better at economy" is the best marketing success story of the last century. The press repeats it as objective truth that people trust republicans more with the economy, despite the fact that democrats keep winning elections after republicans drive the economy in a ditch with their magical thinking and marriage to the extraction industries and billionaires.
"That "Republicans better at economy" is the best marketing success story of the last century. The press repeats it as objective truth that people trust republicans more with the economy, despite the fact that democrats keep winning elections after republicans drive the economy in a ditch"
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Yeah, but they slash the social safety nets, and the people who vote Republican, or who would ever vote Republican, like that, even if it harms them.
I could be wrong, but I think people are beginning to wise up though. When the 2008 crash happened, Obama beat McCain and then Romney - both of whom were classic "safe-with-the-economy" Republicans. There was also a good chance Hillary could have beat Dump if it hadn't been for the FBI screwing her with that nonsense; and she did win the popular vote. Hopefully I'm right.
Lester Holt just read the jobs report and followed with "Not everyone is benefiting from the strong job market" and did a segment about an Missouri town loosing it's Tyson chicken plant, the main employer. NBC evening news can always find a way to dampen enthusiasm for Democratic administrations and their effects on the economy, even if they have to go find a single plant closing in a one horse town.
""Not everyone is benefiting from the strong job market" and did a segment about an Missouri town loosing it's Tyson chicken plant, the main employer."
Capitalism can never do wrong; it can only be wronged. When the workers got the company's foot ever so slightly off their necks, the company packed up and left town -- but somehow, it's the fault of "the strong job market", or Joe Biden, or "woke", or some goddamn nonsense.
a *Missouri town
With no context as to why this DEEPLY Republican state is losing these jobs. It's like they'd rather die than ever, EVER admit that Rule by Republicans is bad for actual people.
Or that Tyson supports Republicans, that the people there vote Republican or that lively counterweight: if the economy is doing well, there has to be a town, family or company that’s doing well. Go find them, NBC. And while you’re at it, release those Apprentice tapes of Asshole making racial slurs.
It's like finding Trump voters in diners...
Evidently there are no Obama or Biden fans, or perhaps most of them live in tunnels underground, only coming up every four years for supplies and to vote.
We never have enough yard signs, or flags, or bumper stickers!! Or t-shirts, hats, fake gold coins, worthless NFTs, or tattoos!
No Biden boat parades!!!
(obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5YPCvowwJc)
https://twitter.com/CivMilAir/status/1302455286838562816
We call that "Sinko De MAGA" out here.
Don't forget CNN!
"Here’s why the shockingly good jobs report is going to cost you"
The biggest challenges this economy is facing is the supply chain and employment disruption that is still lingering from (the poor handling by PAB of) COVID. Signs like the ubiquitous "please be patient with us, we are short staffed". Stores are randomly out of staples that would never be the case before 2020. Times when you could walk out of a store with a full cart because the only person there is on a bathroom break. There is no hint of this "looming" recession. People are vacationing and travelling like no tomorrow. Buying $50,000 vehicles. Home sales still hot & prices rising. On the plus - eggs $1.35, gas $3.20 today, interest on zero-risk-to-principal cash > 5%. Employees unionizing and winning. Student loan debt disappearing. Drag queens, books banned. Guns everywhere. Where is all this bad?
"Stores are randomly out of staples that would never be the case before 2020."
`
We haven't been able to find sponges for weeks.
SPONGES. THAT YOU CLEAN THE KITCHEN SINK WITH.
We LITERALLY ended up having to order sponges off of ebay, because all the stores have been out of them for long enough that we used up all the sponges we have.
See, all the changes in child labor laws are good for the economy! Put those kids to work.