When does all the ‘unprecedented’ weather become officially ‘precedented’?
And Vivek Ramalamadingdong thinks burning as many fossil fuels as we can is our key to prosperity. What a horse's ass.
I'm of the opinion this would have never happened if Bill Patzert had kept his damned mouth shut. "Rank low on the list" indeed. That's basically daring Mother Nature to prove him wrong.
The highways in and out of my region have been closed since last night due to flooding and debris on the roadways. It was a remarkable storm, could have been so much worse.
Why is it that no one seems to remember the Columbus Day Storm of 1962? Yes, it had more impact on OR and the rest of the PNW but it did make landfall in CA. I was 13 at the time and sitting in a classroom with an old-fashioned glass-tube barometer on the wall. We watched the mercury drop and then the wind took the roof off of the school building. Fun times.
To be honest, the storm was pretty mild in Hollywood. Some steady rain, but no real wind. I was more freaked out about the earthquake.
We here in sunny SD were exposed to hours of local news coverage before, during, and after the event. While I fully understand the need for preparation (which we did) and caution, our part of the storm consisted of a lovely summer rain and some mild wind. Not everyone was so lucky, I understand, but I wouldn't mind showers like that on a regular basis. Does wonders for the garden and helps reduce the risk of wildfires. And my very uneducated guess is that we probably will see more such events in the years to come. Whether once segment of humanity want to believe it or not, the climate is changing.
OK LA. Hurriquake '23 was mostly contained to some flooding but not at catastrophic levels. The quake was more of a roller than a jolt but that was a function of the distance between the epicenter and LA. Have not heard from friends in Ojai yet but I imagine they have a lot of tumbled over shelves type clean up to do today. Hurricane Hillary was basically a heavy rain storm. The various catch basins and flood channels down to the LA River seem to have worked. A few water blocked highways but that is about the total of it. We'll likely see some mudslides in the next few days as the top layers of loose material dries out and is lubricated by the wet stuff underneath. There was only a slight amount of wind but a few random places have been without power since yesterday afternoon. That appears to be mostly equipment failure rather than weather related damages. The distribution transformer on the pole in back of my home sparked once but the system did not blow out so except for some downed branches, it's thumbs up here in JoeLand. It will bebhotter than hell again by the end of the week. If we are lucky it's wet enough that we won't have much of a fire season.
> In the meantime, a magnitude 5.1 earthquake struck 80 miles northwest of Los Angeles on Sunday afternoon.
No one in the LA area would care about -- or even really notice -- a 5.1, even in a boring news cycle. Ordinarily, that might garner a minute or two on the nightly news, if that.
But right now? Not even that much, maybe a 30s mention.
In addition to bad news for, say, Chula Vista and San Bernardino, I wonder what this means for the gray whales and big sharks that come to Baja to spawn. I can see where folks have more sympathy for whales, but big sharks are endangered as well, mostly due to Steven Spielberg.
Also, has anyone heard if Tijuana still exists? Has anyone been injured by flying piñatas or chess pieces?
I hesitate to bring this up because I don't want to start any type of argument. I am glad that the storm got a lot of press insofar as it helps awareness of climate change.
However, the storm was a little over-hyped by the media. I want accurate information, good or bad. I live right in the path of the storm, and I was warned about power outages and all kinds of Armageddon-like scenarios.
What actually happened was--about one inch of rain, and a light wind. I realize it was worse elsewhere. The major damage seems to be some trees down, which happens in every storm.
I don't want to take anything away from anyone who actually sustained injury or damage, but there was a disparity between the advance build-up and the actual storm itself.
Shit’s fucked up, yo!
Our current AQI is 241. Cant go outside without getting terrible headache from all the smoke and bits in the air. This is a yearly occurrence but it is awful when it happens
Who decided that with droughts, mudslides, earthquakes, wildfires, and gender reveal parties, that California still didn’t have enough disasters and needed a hurricane?
We have rain this morning in NorCal. Bands of light to medium rain moving around. Hasn't rained a drop in 4 months, this will give everything a drink. The storm is dumping an ocean of water on land from Baja to Montana. Last winter we had atmospheric rivers of rain and snow that smashed all records across California. None of this was in any of the models used by longe range forecasters. This coming winter should be interesting.
Contemplate this: in the past 2 years or so, roads in Death Valley, one of the hottest, driest places on the planet, have been washed away/obliterated/nuked-from-space (ok, the sky) by torrential rains... THREE TIMES (counting what is likely going on right now).
It is only a matter of time before Badwater becomes Lake Manly again (as happened 12 years ago)... but more permanently.
So, what Patzert is saying is technically correct, especially if one confines one's attention to the Atlantic. The thing is that when it comes to cyclonic formation, there are competing effects, some of which promote formation of tropical storms and some of which suppress such formation. On average, global climate change warms ocean temperatures, which provides energy to cause cyclones to form and become stronger. At the same time, you also get more winds blowing dust off of the Sahara, which causes wind shear and suppresses cyclonic formation.
Likewise, while climate change warms the oceans, it can suppress some currents that spread warmth away from the tropics--this will make things much worse near the tropics, but could spare some northern latitudes. Of course Europe might be under 200 feet of ice as well.
This shit is complicated. You not only have to be careful who you listen to, you also have to read the small print.