Looking at Bureau of Labor Statistics, wages in textile and apparel jobs have always been at the bottom for wages in industrial settings. As mentioned here it is why Northern states, the first ones to take advantage of the theft of mass production equipment like water and steam powered looms from Great Britain, suffered in the late 1800s as companies moved south. Often buying up entire towns so getting rid if the company would kill the town. Some relatives grew up in Danville Va and Dan River Mills owned half the property, renting houses to employees, running the bus service do they could get to work, even setting up women's dorms with strict rules so farmers would not worry about sending their daughters to the big city. Apparently they did not employ young children because they built gyms and even an indoor pool and running track for kids and adults, along with movie theaters. But once you got in it was ten hour days in dust and heat with Sunday the only day off until federal laws limited the workday. So a threat to close down the mills in town was always resisted. Now that the mills have moved overseas the town is dying since it is on no major roads, has no commercial air service, and rail lines are bypassing it. Meanwhile some other towns in North Carolina, within 50 to 100 miles that also depended on textiles, tobacco, and furniture, have managed to switch to other manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, and tech jobs. But they had other infrastructure to serve as a base, including major universities and roads. But still wages in NC typically lag national income in industrial work since there are no unions.
Back when, time in the stocks entailed serious personal risk. People died or lost eyes if someone wanted to throw rocks or brickbats. The town watch or whatever was unlikely to protect the helpless victims.
Once again I'd like to buy a couple of drinks for whoever it was who scared Traitorville sufficiently to compel him to recognize the error of his ways.
As a child I was for some reason delighted with this song (and others of Paul McCartney and Wings, like "Listen to What the Man Said" and "Uncle Albert").
It was just silly stuff that for some reason stuck with me for the rest of my life. XD
True story: I started working when I was 11, with the ubiquitious paperroute. And lemme tell ya, the amount of people willing to stiff a kid a quarter is very many people.
At 12 I started baby sitting- hour here and there at first, built up from there.
at 15 I hit up retail and stuck in there for many a year as many do.
Looking back, I do not think any of that shit was actually ok, but we were poor and my folks had enough of a time keeping roof and lights going. That is what they mean by the poor folk were only too happy for that work. When you're desperate you really will do anything. And poor folk were told that unions killed jobs (entirely believable; they saw it happen with their own eyes, that the company picked up and left to go somewhere non union) so they became anti union which is amazing since much of the labor movement had huge roots in those same places.
Not sure how that gets fixed, it is rather ingrained, even more so now that the jobs that had been lured away from unionized areas are now somewhere with even cheaper labor.
Remember when I was a kid in Philly, someone (Republican, of course) was floating the idea of pushing back the city working age because gosh darn it, adults are too expensive.
Philly though is a pretty blue collar union town, or was then, so it got smacked all to hell, but one of the local rags actually whined about how no one wanted to make their kid learn the value of earning money anymore.
Aside, my dad, a life long republican and UAW man, wrote a VERY scathing reply to that op ed and they actually published it. But they listed him as a "lifelong Democrat"
>>Until organized labor figures out how to get southern workers to vote yes on unionization, its power will remain limited.<<
Sometimes it's not a question of how to get them to vote yes, but protecting them so they can vote at all. When Nissan came to Canton, MS, to build their big-ass factory outside Jackson, the friendly good ole boys at the capitol made a lot of promises about making absolutely damn sure there would be no "union troublemakers" stirring up shit with the workers. This was done under the guise of "y'all don't want these good jobs to go away now, do you?"
Same story with Mercedes in Alabama. Local pols just called in their goons to scare workers into not unionizing.
The main reason that more technical jerbs don't want to HQ in the South and Midwest is the lack of an educated workforce. And their current employees don't want to relocate to the South or the Midwest because of bad schools, anti-abortion laws, and the concomitant lack of good healthcare.
Be careful what you wish for, Red States. Sure glad I'm not a recruiter down there.
I heard it explained that it's not hard to find employees here, but it's impossible to find management. Few big-money cityboys with fancy Business degrees are willing to relocate to towns that don't have Starbucks. And even if the man is willing to relocate, the wife ain't.
It's not just "big city men" who are "ruled" by the women folk. Many are the redneck and/or "coonass" here in Louisiana who by Word are the "King of Their Castle" but by deed live by "Happy Wife, Happy Life". LOL
That was the gist of the article I read. It was a story in the St. Louis Post Dispatch about why a specific company decided not to relocate to the city. The actual reason cited was that the wife took a ride on a city bus and was appalled by the poor people. If a medium-size city can't attract upper management, it gave me a whole new perspective on why very few major employers are willing to set up shop hours from a big city. Starbucks is a good stand-in for all of the other things a city offers that rural areas can not.
Thank you for the great article!
Chorus
It’s hard times, Cotton Mill Girls,
Hard times, Cotton Mill Girls
It’s hard times, Cotton Mill Girls, hard times everywhere
I worked in a cotton mill all of my life
Ain’t got nothing but this Barlow knife
It’s hard times Cotton Mill Girls, It’s hard times everywhere
chorus
In 1915 we heard it said
Move to the country and get ahead
It's hard times Cotton Mill Girls, It’s hard times everywhere
chorus
Us kids worked 14 hours a day
For 13 cents of measly pay
It’s hard times Cotton Mill Girls, It’s hard times everywhere
chorus
When I die don’t buy me at all
Just hang me up on the spinning room wall
Pickle my bones in alcohol, it’s hard times everywhere
chorus
Someone has a copyright for this as of 1962, but I think it may be older. There are other lyrics.
This, IMO is one of the reasons Republicans and "conservatives" are so against abortion. They plan ahead.
Looking at Bureau of Labor Statistics, wages in textile and apparel jobs have always been at the bottom for wages in industrial settings. As mentioned here it is why Northern states, the first ones to take advantage of the theft of mass production equipment like water and steam powered looms from Great Britain, suffered in the late 1800s as companies moved south. Often buying up entire towns so getting rid if the company would kill the town. Some relatives grew up in Danville Va and Dan River Mills owned half the property, renting houses to employees, running the bus service do they could get to work, even setting up women's dorms with strict rules so farmers would not worry about sending their daughters to the big city. Apparently they did not employ young children because they built gyms and even an indoor pool and running track for kids and adults, along with movie theaters. But once you got in it was ten hour days in dust and heat with Sunday the only day off until federal laws limited the workday. So a threat to close down the mills in town was always resisted. Now that the mills have moved overseas the town is dying since it is on no major roads, has no commercial air service, and rail lines are bypassing it. Meanwhile some other towns in North Carolina, within 50 to 100 miles that also depended on textiles, tobacco, and furniture, have managed to switch to other manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, and tech jobs. But they had other infrastructure to serve as a base, including major universities and roads. But still wages in NC typically lag national income in industrial work since there are no unions.
OT: Did someone hit him with a 2x4 overnight?
Tuberville is ending blockade of most military nominees, clearing way for hundreds to be approved
https://news.yahoo.com/sen-tommy-tuberville-says-hes-183554232.html
you wish. that anti-American asshole should be whacked with a 2x4 at least twice a day, just to drive home the message "go home. we don't like you"
I can cover hitting him at least one of the weekend days.
Too violent. Put him in stocks and let people throw rotten fruit at him three hours a day six days a week. With Tuesday off, not Sunday.
Back when, time in the stocks entailed serious personal risk. People died or lost eyes if someone wanted to throw rocks or brickbats. The town watch or whatever was unlikely to protect the helpless victims.
That’d be a real shame.
Wanting to repeal child labor laws is count one in the indictment of Newt Gingrich for crimes against humanity.
Add Sarah "AwShucks"abee to that list for actually doing it in her state.
Tubertone will no longer block military appointments.
This is a good start. I still want this scumbag to be assigned to barnacle scraping duties.
With his penis.
I think every time they swear in a newly promoted officer, he has to stand there and offer a cream pie for which to face him.
Once again I'd like to buy a couple of drinks for whoever it was who scared Traitorville sufficiently to compel him to recognize the error of his ways.
Lol. I just realized that your acronym is ACAB 😆 was that on purpose?
All too entirely accurate I am sure.
that sounds about right
That would cause the pathetic wretch to shit his pants.
If they called it the united autoworkers klan, they would maybe have more luck.
Apropos of textiles and fashion, I present to y'all... whatever the hell this is from Saks and Balenciaga:
https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/Balenciaga-Technoclog-0400018935404.html?dwvar_0400018935404_size=41(8)&dwvar_0400018935404_color=SAPPHIREBLUE&site_refer=DFA%20BEH%20S5%20CRITEO%20BRANDING%20CONTEXTUAL%20TARGETING_Q2LOGOLOCKUP&cto_pld=hYxO2LydAABO6iObF-KUUQ
Carl Van Perkins wrote a song about those shoes.
For people with more money than sense.
Lol. $12,000 CanuckBucks ... but at least they ship here now! ;-)
Some people with money are too stupid to be allowed to have money.
$8K +
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
contextual targeting...fail
Crystal blue dissuasion...
As in "...no one in their right mind would invest in these".
Nice!!!!!!!
It's a .....teckno clogg!
I wonder if it can break up stubborn Labor disputes.
I'm thoroughly convinced that "high fashion's" sole existence is to remove money from rich fools.
Thanks for another great piece, Prof. Loomis! Your Ten Strikes book is fantastic btw.
OT: Oh, dammit: yet another talented individual person has skated off to the Lands Beyond.
Denny Laine has passed away.
I liked "Band on the Run" and "Live and Let Die." Turn them up, and take a drink of anything you want, in his memory.
Haven't seen if Sir Paul has made a statement or not.
Go Now - early Moody Blues - is his song and it's a classic. Love that song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2L3UzM_FfE
Correction - Go Now was a Bessie Banks song and a cover by the Moody Blues - Denny Laine vocal.
[raises just opened bottle of brew high]
OMG!!!!! Band on the Run is one of my favorite songs ever. :( :( :(
RIP.
I am listening to some of my early adolescent memorable moments in my head right now and that's one of the songs playing.
As a child I was for some reason delighted with this song (and others of Paul McCartney and Wings, like "Listen to What the Man Said" and "Uncle Albert").
It was just silly stuff that for some reason stuck with me for the rest of my life. XD
I just LOVE "Uncle Albert"!
I do, too!!!!!!
If anyone ever talks over the "butter pie" bit when it comes on my playlist, I immediately start the song over, LMAO!
I had a paper route and shoveled snow for money when I was 12. This is why I support 60 hour workweeks for kids running dangerous textile machinery.
True story: I started working when I was 11, with the ubiquitious paperroute. And lemme tell ya, the amount of people willing to stiff a kid a quarter is very many people.
At 12 I started baby sitting- hour here and there at first, built up from there.
at 15 I hit up retail and stuck in there for many a year as many do.
Looking back, I do not think any of that shit was actually ok, but we were poor and my folks had enough of a time keeping roof and lights going. That is what they mean by the poor folk were only too happy for that work. When you're desperate you really will do anything. And poor folk were told that unions killed jobs (entirely believable; they saw it happen with their own eyes, that the company picked up and left to go somewhere non union) so they became anti union which is amazing since much of the labor movement had huge roots in those same places.
Not sure how that gets fixed, it is rather ingrained, even more so now that the jobs that had been lured away from unionized areas are now somewhere with even cheaper labor.
"When you're desperate you really will do anything"
That is why they want to take things like healthcare and refuse to support things like a UBI that people could actually live on.
They are desperate to KEEP us desperate
Too true.
Remember when I was a kid in Philly, someone (Republican, of course) was floating the idea of pushing back the city working age because gosh darn it, adults are too expensive.
Philly though is a pretty blue collar union town, or was then, so it got smacked all to hell, but one of the local rags actually whined about how no one wanted to make their kid learn the value of earning money anymore.
Aside, my dad, a life long republican and UAW man, wrote a VERY scathing reply to that op ed and they actually published it. But they listed him as a "lifelong Democrat"
Was funny as hell, he got so mad
>>Until organized labor figures out how to get southern workers to vote yes on unionization, its power will remain limited.<<
Sometimes it's not a question of how to get them to vote yes, but protecting them so they can vote at all. When Nissan came to Canton, MS, to build their big-ass factory outside Jackson, the friendly good ole boys at the capitol made a lot of promises about making absolutely damn sure there would be no "union troublemakers" stirring up shit with the workers. This was done under the guise of "y'all don't want these good jobs to go away now, do you?"
Same story with Mercedes in Alabama. Local pols just called in their goons to scare workers into not unionizing.
Duh. Hire Norma Ray, obviously.
The main reason that more technical jerbs don't want to HQ in the South and Midwest is the lack of an educated workforce. And their current employees don't want to relocate to the South or the Midwest because of bad schools, anti-abortion laws, and the concomitant lack of good healthcare.
Be careful what you wish for, Red States. Sure glad I'm not a recruiter down there.
I heard it explained that it's not hard to find employees here, but it's impossible to find management. Few big-money cityboys with fancy Business degrees are willing to relocate to towns that don't have Starbucks. And even if the man is willing to relocate, the wife ain't.
Because all big city men are only interested in starbucks and also ruled by their women folk?
It's not just "big city men" who are "ruled" by the women folk. Many are the redneck and/or "coonass" here in Louisiana who by Word are the "King of Their Castle" but by deed live by "Happy Wife, Happy Life". LOL
That was the gist of the article I read. It was a story in the St. Louis Post Dispatch about why a specific company decided not to relocate to the city. The actual reason cited was that the wife took a ride on a city bus and was appalled by the poor people. If a medium-size city can't attract upper management, it gave me a whole new perspective on why very few major employers are willing to set up shop hours from a big city. Starbucks is a good stand-in for all of the other things a city offers that rural areas can not.
This really depends on your definition of Midwest.
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Oh cool, let's dance
*dances*
Hey important news!! Who's gonna ride the Party Train with me?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4342866-biden-greenlights-money-las-vegas-to-california-rail/
ALL ABOARD!
https://youtu.be/zOZtk5P7RCU?si=20jrZbDwB6h9zsVw
Quick, Elon! Make up another unworkable transit scheme to derail it!
This will be worse than New Jersey Transit after a Rangers game.
Truly! The stories will be epic 😂