Thank you for posting this article. As a believing Christian, I have been horrified and saddened by all of the misinformation and slander being spread about these two athletes. It seems that as you said, people cannot get beyond their own phobias to actually see the facts as they are. Or else, they don’t want to see the facts, but want to spread a political agenda.
Ta, Robyn. Gender is a spectrum, not a duality. When we were kids, Younger Sister was offered a drink from the garden hose by a boy who lived on our corner. Had I not come along when he was trying to shove the hose down her throat, she might not be among the living. He was XYY. That extra Y chromosome made him a danger to himself and others. To my knowledge, he never killed another human, but he did end his own life.
Just so I’m clear, we’re still okay with men beating up men and women beating up women for entertainment? What about the High Jumping To Conclusions event?
This is what TERFs and transphobes are, and what they do. Having made a satisfactory (to them) start on demonising trans women, they're moving onto the next line of That Poem.
Now they're coming after cis women who aren't sufficiently "feminine". It was only a matter of time.
Imagine trying to demonise a boxer for punching her opponent in the head.
THAT'S THE POINT OF THE SPORT. Imagine trying to demonise an Olympic athlete for "shattering" her opponent's dream of winning a gold medal. THAT'S THE POINT OF COMING TO THE OLYMPICS.
This is your brain on transphobia. Just say No, folks.
At least JK Rowling will be remembered for more than just one thing. Wizard books, and hateful rhetoric about other people’s lives that should have no bearing on her life whatsoever.
Yep, The "We gotta keep the trans out!" trope relies on the idea that all trans women want to compete in athletics, and all of them will be super athletes that will do better than every cis woman.
Throughout the last two centuries (at least) there has been a consistent movement to keep out of athletics persons who don't fit a platonic ideal of who should be allowed to compete. Professionals versus amateurs (remember the coach not allowed in the Olympic Stadium in Paris a century ago, in Chariots of Fire). Immigrants versus "Americans". Blacks versus whites. Girls versus boys.
It's tragic that the person who made so many kids who did not fit into roles society assigned to them happy for her vibrant defense of "mudbloods" and "squibs" in the Harry Potter books has decided to dedicate her life to her hatred of people who don't fit an outmoded and cruel gender stereotype about which her knowledge is far outstripped by the size of her megaphone.
For the record, the Latin prefix cis- means "on the near side of", and trans- means "on the far side of". So, for example, in his book on his conquest of Gaul (roughly modern France), Julius Caesar refers to the part of Gaul on Rome's side of the Alps as "Gallia Cisalpina", and the part on the far side of the Alps as "Gallia Transalpina".
So the use of cis and trans as gender identity indicators is the most natural use of language imaginable. If your gender identity is near what you were assigned at birth, you're cisgender, or cis for short. If your gender identity is on the other side of the traditional gender boundary from what you were assigned at birth, you're transgender, or trans for short.
If we'd just start teaching people classical Greek and Latin in high school again, we could avoid so many pointless arguments built on abject ignorance. Some basic training in critical thinking skills wouldn't hurt, either.
Anyone here who keeps up with my nonsense knows I'm a trans woman. And this crap from TERFs and assholes pisses me right the absolute fuck off.
We know that these two boxers are cisgender women. The IOC knows. The IBA/Russia knows. And Musk and Joanne know--or they would if they did even the faintest shred of reading. But they won't. And even if they did, they're so set in their fucking mindsets that no amount of evidence of any kind whatsoever would make them even give the vague appearance of an apology.
My mom has to much testosterone. She had to go on HRT to get pregnant. 🙄 I have an abundance of estrogen and a spare ovary. 🤷♀️ human bodies are interesting and complex.
And they always have been. Examples abide throughout history and not just Western history. Previous generations may not have had quite the language to describe it, but it's pretty clear they were aware there were lots of people who didn't fit into exact categories. X and Y chromosomes have been known about since 1905. I don't think the Bible was aware of them.
I would like to see Rowling's victims sue her for all the money her audience gave her when she conned them into thinking she wasn't the lowest kind of Muggle bigot.
BBC: they are really just Concerned Citizens anyway and surely you can debate the people calling you "anti woman groomer demon sheep" in a civil manner!
The boxer needs to SUE the hell out of them all.
Thank you for posting this article. As a believing Christian, I have been horrified and saddened by all of the misinformation and slander being spread about these two athletes. It seems that as you said, people cannot get beyond their own phobias to actually see the facts as they are. Or else, they don’t want to see the facts, but want to spread a political agenda.
Thank you for the being the voice of calm and sanity.
Ta, Robyn. Gender is a spectrum, not a duality. When we were kids, Younger Sister was offered a drink from the garden hose by a boy who lived on our corner. Had I not come along when he was trying to shove the hose down her throat, she might not be among the living. He was XYY. That extra Y chromosome made him a danger to himself and others. To my knowledge, he never killed another human, but he did end his own life.
So it all comes back to Russia.
Again.
Asking Ms. Rowling for a friend:
Just so I’m clear, we’re still okay with men beating up men and women beating up women for entertainment? What about the High Jumping To Conclusions event?
This is what TERFs and transphobes are, and what they do. Having made a satisfactory (to them) start on demonising trans women, they're moving onto the next line of That Poem.
Now they're coming after cis women who aren't sufficiently "feminine". It was only a matter of time.
Imagine trying to demonise a boxer for punching her opponent in the head.
THAT'S THE POINT OF THE SPORT. Imagine trying to demonise an Olympic athlete for "shattering" her opponent's dream of winning a gold medal. THAT'S THE POINT OF COMING TO THE OLYMPICS.
This is your brain on transphobia. Just say No, folks.
At least JK Rowling will be remembered for more than just one thing. Wizard books, and hateful rhetoric about other people’s lives that should have no bearing on her life whatsoever.
It’s fucking sexist to suggest that every born male body is naturally better at “sports” than every born female body, full stop.
Babe Didrikson Zaharias supports this statement.
Yep, The "We gotta keep the trans out!" trope relies on the idea that all trans women want to compete in athletics, and all of them will be super athletes that will do better than every cis woman.
Throughout the last two centuries (at least) there has been a consistent movement to keep out of athletics persons who don't fit a platonic ideal of who should be allowed to compete. Professionals versus amateurs (remember the coach not allowed in the Olympic Stadium in Paris a century ago, in Chariots of Fire). Immigrants versus "Americans". Blacks versus whites. Girls versus boys.
It's tragic that the person who made so many kids who did not fit into roles society assigned to them happy for her vibrant defense of "mudbloods" and "squibs" in the Harry Potter books has decided to dedicate her life to her hatred of people who don't fit an outmoded and cruel gender stereotype about which her knowledge is far outstripped by the size of her megaphone.
I knew there was some reason I never liked the Harry Potter franchise, despite being a fan of other works of fantasy.
For the record, the Latin prefix cis- means "on the near side of", and trans- means "on the far side of". So, for example, in his book on his conquest of Gaul (roughly modern France), Julius Caesar refers to the part of Gaul on Rome's side of the Alps as "Gallia Cisalpina", and the part on the far side of the Alps as "Gallia Transalpina".
So the use of cis and trans as gender identity indicators is the most natural use of language imaginable. If your gender identity is near what you were assigned at birth, you're cisgender, or cis for short. If your gender identity is on the other side of the traditional gender boundary from what you were assigned at birth, you're transgender, or trans for short.
If we'd just start teaching people classical Greek and Latin in high school again, we could avoid so many pointless arguments built on abject ignorance. Some basic training in critical thinking skills wouldn't hurt, either.
Anyone here who keeps up with my nonsense knows I'm a trans woman. And this crap from TERFs and assholes pisses me right the absolute fuck off.
We know that these two boxers are cisgender women. The IOC knows. The IBA/Russia knows. And Musk and Joanne know--or they would if they did even the faintest shred of reading. But they won't. And even if they did, they're so set in their fucking mindsets that no amount of evidence of any kind whatsoever would make them even give the vague appearance of an apology.
My mom has to much testosterone. She had to go on HRT to get pregnant. 🙄 I have an abundance of estrogen and a spare ovary. 🤷♀️ human bodies are interesting and complex.
And they always have been. Examples abide throughout history and not just Western history. Previous generations may not have had quite the language to describe it, but it's pretty clear they were aware there were lots of people who didn't fit into exact categories. X and Y chromosomes have been known about since 1905. I don't think the Bible was aware of them.
I fucking loathe Rowling. And I am a cis - woman. Who welcomes her trans- woman sisters.
Me too! More of us to fight against the patriarchy, who is the real enemy of us all!
I looked for some shit on this on reddit, and surprisingly the subreddit that was doing the most push back was fucking Rogan.
I would like to see Rowling's victims sue her for all the money her audience gave her when she conned them into thinking she wasn't the lowest kind of Muggle bigot.
BBC tries to be helpful by making it seem even more controversial.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/articles/cye0ex43k63o
BBC: they are really just Concerned Citizens anyway and surely you can debate the people calling you "anti woman groomer demon sheep" in a civil manner!