Pro-life means protecting it "from womb to tomb," according to Mike Pence. That should come with a great big asterisk: Does Not Apply to (mostly Black, mostly poor) People convicted (rightly or wrongly) of certain crimes in the wrong state.
No smarmy "pro-life" lies should ever be tolerated from those who support the death penalty.
You don't need to be nearly so specific. Once that perfect, infallible fetus becomes a child, all bets are off. Rs don't want to pay for social programs, schools, food subsidies, college, elder care, or anything else that could fit the "from womb to tomb" timeline. Mike's just a sanctimonious fucking liar.
In my IRL, I haven’t seen abortion ever be this popular, almost revered.
It’s a wonder to me that pre Dobbs, the RW anti choice folks were churning out “abortion is murder” propaganda, and it was effective, until the that protected right was removed.
Now, the clear majority want it back. And, in my poker play, my dance classes, among friends and family of all political persuasions, not one person spouts the anti choice nonsense that we were inundated with, for decades.
I even have my “abortion punchcard” joke, that I wouldn’t have dreamed of saying to anyone i didn’t know well, pre Dobbs.
There's a great solution to all of this. VOTE!! Vote a straight Democratic ticket every election. And if Biden hasn't already instituted Howard Dean's 50 state strategy, his team had best get on it quickly.
There’s a man that’s trying to gaslight me because he thinks that my fear of getting pregnant by my rapist is something that might not happen because getting pregnant via rape us “rare” when there’s no safe time to have unprotected sex. I love that someone that has zero ability to get pregnant has so much to say.
EXACTLY the right content in exactly the right tone. More like this, please. Let us yank these bad actors off the stage, drown out their nonsensical, superstitious foolishness with hard-won
I cannot imagine being in her shoes. If I could not have had an abortion of my trisomy 18 fetus, I don't know if I would have survived the pregnancy. I doubt I would have been able to give it another try, so I wouldn't have my kid, whom I love beyond all reason. These people who would deny us the necessary agency over our own medical care are monsters.
If they do a “town hall”-style debate, I want someone to stand up and say, “Mr Trump, why are you now opposed to a medical procedure that you’ve paid for in the past for your mistresses and those of your two adult sons?”
Sniveling coward tries to split the baby - yes, I did that on purpose - to keep his base quiet and maybe convince enough “suburban women” (white ladies who went to college and don’t much keep up with the news) that he won’t appoint Anthony Comstock’s chronically masturbating ghost as AG … I like a run-on sentence but even I have lost the thread of this one.
The only solution to these anti-abortion loons is to get the Republicans out of office and Republican judges out of the courts. When Roe was decided the Supreme Court ruled that through the second trimester abortion was a constitutional right. Just like some of the states passing abortion rights amendments to their state constitutions. But it did not take long for that same Supreme Court to start allowing "exceptions" to that right, saying it was not a significant restriction to abortion rights. Even as they allowed restrictions much lower than the second trimester, which was considered by the court to be much lower, 22 to 24 weeks, as neonatal care improved.
This was despite early standards meant there must be a really convincing justification for banning abortions at, say, 18 or 21 weeks. Which would be impossible for a state to justify as a blanket policy, even using the bullshit "it's to protect the woman's health." Like requiring two visits to a doctor, ultrasounds, submitting to fake abortion horror stories, abortions cause cancer or infertility. For one of the safest medical procedures around, safer than most dental surgery.
So since that was a hurdle too high for the evangelicals to clear, a later ruling changed it to restrictions that imposed an "undue burden" on a woman. But the court never found a burden they considered too undue. Even as some states used building codes, hospital admission requirements, and ignoring threats to the facilities and funding cuts to Planned Parenthood even when most of their clinics did not perform abortions. So a 19 year old working part time and going to school part time with no car was not unduly burdened by having to get to an abortion clinic 150 miles away, twice, to get an abortion. Which would definitely be considered an undue burden if you wanted to buy an AR 15.
So what I'm saying is that as long as Republicans have a deciding role in government abortion rights will never be safe. The legislature will pass a bill "to protect women" and the Republican state court will say obviously protecting women's health is more important than some old constitutional amendment. Just don't tell anyone they must wear a mask during a deadly pandemic to protect your life and everyone around you. Then say abortion clinics should be able to withstand a nuclear attack, even though there are only two in the country. But you don't need a passport to travel in the US if you are a citizen so it's not an undue burden. The Supreme Court did it with Roe, whittling down what they originally called a constitutional right to a right some states restricted out of existence for many women long before they overturned it completely. I expect the right wing state courts will do the same thing.
I will never stop being furious that basic gynecological procedures are subject to public referenda because some people have decided they’re icky and immoral.
Trump ran a company called 'Trump Models' (later just T Management) from 1999-2017. Michael Gross said it was “just another rich guy buying a date farm, perhaps for his friends, perhaps for himself”. So, a spot to traffic girls from overseas and woo rich clients.
You can bet 100% that there was a doctor and a clinic somewhere in Manhattan that provided the service required when one of those 'models' needed to dispose of a little impediment to her career. And, more importantly, to the career of some rich businessman or politician. He probably boasted how he was getting all that down wholesale, too.
"While in Europe in 1883, Anthony helped a desperately poor Irish mother of six children. Noting that "the evidences were that 'God' was about to add a No. 7 to her flock", she later commented, "What a dreadful creature their God must be to keep sending hungry mouths while he withholds the bread to fill them!"[209]" from Wikipedia.
Susan B would be furious that these creeps dare use her name.
In Judaism, the fetus isn't viable until it's graduated medical school
(Am Jewish, nobody makes fun of us like we do)
Arizona Republicans gonna Republican, and absolutely nobody is surprised.
AG Mayes will not prosecute which is good but not sufficient.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/09/us/arizona-abortion-ban.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20240409&instance_id=119734&nl=from-the-times®i_id=1815261&segment_id=163020&te=1&user_id=eff059422580e568163763779665abe4
Ah, so the right-to-lifers are learning what it's like to believe in PAB. Welcome to Club Disappointment, assholes!
Pro-life means protecting it "from womb to tomb," according to Mike Pence. That should come with a great big asterisk: Does Not Apply to (mostly Black, mostly poor) People convicted (rightly or wrongly) of certain crimes in the wrong state.
No smarmy "pro-life" lies should ever be tolerated from those who support the death penalty.
You don't need to be nearly so specific. Once that perfect, infallible fetus becomes a child, all bets are off. Rs don't want to pay for social programs, schools, food subsidies, college, elder care, or anything else that could fit the "from womb to tomb" timeline. Mike's just a sanctimonious fucking liar.
Also not applicable to children in schools or spouses.
Nor to pregnant women.
Lindsey and Pence.
Doesn't The Art of War have something about what lapdogs are closest to when they turn?
In my IRL, I haven’t seen abortion ever be this popular, almost revered.
It’s a wonder to me that pre Dobbs, the RW anti choice folks were churning out “abortion is murder” propaganda, and it was effective, until the that protected right was removed.
Now, the clear majority want it back. And, in my poker play, my dance classes, among friends and family of all political persuasions, not one person spouts the anti choice nonsense that we were inundated with, for decades.
I even have my “abortion punchcard” joke, that I wouldn’t have dreamed of saying to anyone i didn’t know well, pre Dobbs.
So, there’s that.
Don't it always seem to go
You don't know what you've got 'till its gone -J.Mitchell
There's a great solution to all of this. VOTE!! Vote a straight Democratic ticket every election. And if Biden hasn't already instituted Howard Dean's 50 state strategy, his team had best get on it quickly.
There’s a man that’s trying to gaslight me because he thinks that my fear of getting pregnant by my rapist is something that might not happen because getting pregnant via rape us “rare” when there’s no safe time to have unprotected sex. I love that someone that has zero ability to get pregnant has so much to say.
“The science is clear — a child at fifteen weeks is well-developed and capable of feeling pain,”
I would challenge Lindsay Graham to cite such science if it's so "clear".
amanda zurawski is a godamn hero.
https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1777381859669807221
EXACTLY the right content in exactly the right tone. More like this, please. Let us yank these bad actors off the stage, drown out their nonsensical, superstitious foolishness with hard-won
scientific FACTS.
I cannot imagine being in her shoes. If I could not have had an abortion of my trisomy 18 fetus, I don't know if I would have survived the pregnancy. I doubt I would have been able to give it another try, so I wouldn't have my kid, whom I love beyond all reason. These people who would deny us the necessary agency over our own medical care are monsters.
If they do a “town hall”-style debate, I want someone to stand up and say, “Mr Trump, why are you now opposed to a medical procedure that you’ve paid for in the past for your mistresses and those of your two adult sons?”
I imagine one would have to MAGAt themself up to just be allowed to BE in the 'town hall', and might likely be arrested somehow after the fact.
Sniveling coward tries to split the baby - yes, I did that on purpose - to keep his base quiet and maybe convince enough “suburban women” (white ladies who went to college and don’t much keep up with the news) that he won’t appoint Anthony Comstock’s chronically masturbating ghost as AG … I like a run-on sentence but even I have lost the thread of this one.
The only solution to these anti-abortion loons is to get the Republicans out of office and Republican judges out of the courts. When Roe was decided the Supreme Court ruled that through the second trimester abortion was a constitutional right. Just like some of the states passing abortion rights amendments to their state constitutions. But it did not take long for that same Supreme Court to start allowing "exceptions" to that right, saying it was not a significant restriction to abortion rights. Even as they allowed restrictions much lower than the second trimester, which was considered by the court to be much lower, 22 to 24 weeks, as neonatal care improved.
This was despite early standards meant there must be a really convincing justification for banning abortions at, say, 18 or 21 weeks. Which would be impossible for a state to justify as a blanket policy, even using the bullshit "it's to protect the woman's health." Like requiring two visits to a doctor, ultrasounds, submitting to fake abortion horror stories, abortions cause cancer or infertility. For one of the safest medical procedures around, safer than most dental surgery.
So since that was a hurdle too high for the evangelicals to clear, a later ruling changed it to restrictions that imposed an "undue burden" on a woman. But the court never found a burden they considered too undue. Even as some states used building codes, hospital admission requirements, and ignoring threats to the facilities and funding cuts to Planned Parenthood even when most of their clinics did not perform abortions. So a 19 year old working part time and going to school part time with no car was not unduly burdened by having to get to an abortion clinic 150 miles away, twice, to get an abortion. Which would definitely be considered an undue burden if you wanted to buy an AR 15.
So what I'm saying is that as long as Republicans have a deciding role in government abortion rights will never be safe. The legislature will pass a bill "to protect women" and the Republican state court will say obviously protecting women's health is more important than some old constitutional amendment. Just don't tell anyone they must wear a mask during a deadly pandemic to protect your life and everyone around you. Then say abortion clinics should be able to withstand a nuclear attack, even though there are only two in the country. But you don't need a passport to travel in the US if you are a citizen so it's not an undue burden. The Supreme Court did it with Roe, whittling down what they originally called a constitutional right to a right some states restricted out of existence for many women long before they overturned it completely. I expect the right wing state courts will do the same thing.
I will never stop being furious that basic gynecological procedures are subject to public referenda because some people have decided they’re icky and immoral.
Katherine this is the best statement ever. Why can’t this argument be framed as such?.
I mean it is basically getting to that point.
Trump ran a company called 'Trump Models' (later just T Management) from 1999-2017. Michael Gross said it was “just another rich guy buying a date farm, perhaps for his friends, perhaps for himself”. So, a spot to traffic girls from overseas and woo rich clients.
You can bet 100% that there was a doctor and a clinic somewhere in Manhattan that provided the service required when one of those 'models' needed to dispose of a little impediment to her career. And, more importantly, to the career of some rich businessman or politician. He probably boasted how he was getting all that down wholesale, too.
That was not the only thing he owned...
Miss Teen USA...
Trump walked into teen beauty pageant changing room
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300551-report-trump-walked-into-teen-beauty-pageant-changing/
Knowing Trump’s normal practice, he probably got someone else to pay for the abortions.
"While in Europe in 1883, Anthony helped a desperately poor Irish mother of six children. Noting that "the evidences were that 'God' was about to add a No. 7 to her flock", she later commented, "What a dreadful creature their God must be to keep sending hungry mouths while he withholds the bread to fill them!"[209]" from Wikipedia.
Susan B would be furious that these creeps dare use her name.
No shit.