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Marycat2021's avatar

What bothers me is that it seems most Americans just don't get it. I think a lot of people have been lying to themselves, saying that the US government "wouldn't do such a thing" unless the people being disappeared somehow "deserve it." Oh shit, they're foreigners! They're Muslims, and Muslims are monsters who hate Jews! To them, I say "Just wait. Someday they might just come for you."

Fuck. I'm a coward. I got an email from a place that sells "statement" T-shirts, and I'm too scared of Trump and Musk to buy one.

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jltympanum's avatar

One feels helpless in the face of this kind of shit. DON'T FEEL HELPLESS. Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. If you are potentially a target (e.g., you are here on a student visa from Itan) STAY WITH THE CROWDS. Don't let yourself be in a place where you are alone.

2. If you are not a target, and you see someone getting attacked by ICE goons, get the other people nearby (see #1) to form a ring around the victim (along with the goons) and lock arms. Don't try to intervene directly, just make it difficult for the goons to drag away their victim.

3. Record as much as you can on video.

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Agent of Chaotic Respite's avatar

A thought: Might these be paid J6ers, on bounty-hunting duty?

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Marycat2021's avatar

LOL obviously you've never had an encounter with the Border Patrol.

No. They have plenty of goons already.

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"M"'s avatar

They're so racist they might do it for free

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Evan. MLK Jr quoted Theodore Parker when he said the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice. I'd like to see that happen in this lifetime, please.

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"M"'s avatar

Here's the thing about that speech that people tend to leave out.

It doesn't bend by itself, is the thing

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Mexfiles's avatar

The videos of the "detention" look like something from every movie set in Latin America during the dirty wars of the 70s - 90s. Next come one-way helicopter rides?

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Jennifer's avatar

Halfway helicopter rides.

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Marc Kennedy's avatar

Arrests those bullies for kidnapping. The victims will eventually be able to file charges but justice will have to wait til Spanky and his gang are history

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Marycat2021's avatar

Most important, demand a copy of the warrant and to see their ID. And make video of them and take photos of any documentation they show you (but from what I can tell, they never have any). Scream at the top of your lungs. But don't go anywhere alone. Please.

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"M"'s avatar

"Arrests those bullies for kidnapping."

*long sigh*

The reason they wore masks was to make themselves hard to identify -- especially since MA is blue and well-educated and has a go-getter state AG.

Pam Bondi, by sharp contrast, has propagandized that she is not even going to prosecute Hic!seth, Miller, and the other Nazis for the treason they've perpetrated under the Federal Records Act and the Espionage Act.

So you know she is not going to go after these kidnappers.

What you're missing -- and everyone who wasn't that invested in their history & government classes in high school, college, or grad school (and at the first two that's not all the way down to you because Republicans always, ALWAYS want to starve public education of funding) is missing -- is that the very first thing Republicans always, ALWAYS do when they are in power is they BREAK the enforcement mechanisms of U.S. federal government against White men and those who serve only them.

https://www.justsecurity.org/63635/barrs-playbook-he-misled-congress-when-omitting-parts-of-justice-dept-memo-in-1989/

https://www.justsecurity.org/71535/bill-barrs-playbook-his-false-claims-about-prior-military-force-on-u-s-soil/

https://www.justsecurity.org/71535/bill-barrs-playbook-his-false-claims-about-prior-military-force-on-u-s-soil/

That's a comparatively long-winded way of saying

"Who's gonna prosecute?"

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Phried Ω's avatar

Some of these ICE goons are going to get pepper-sprayed or stun-gunned or shot dead in self defense if they keep hustling people off the street like this. The NKVD was more discreet.

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"M"'s avatar

"Some of these ICE goons are going to get pepper-sprayed or stun-gunned or shot dead in self defense if they keep hustling people off the street like this"

Maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vWugZACMk

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Hank Napkin's avatar

Can we classify Sir's Very Excellent Many People Are Saying Dementia as "Wrongthink"?

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Kirsty Gnome-Poledance Himmler's avatar

"In April 1934, Himmler was named head of Germany’s secret state police, the “Geheime Staatspolizei,” more commonly known as the “Gestapo.” The Gestapo, which had been established the previous year, was charged with tracking down and arresting Hitler’s adversaries. Without benefit of trial, these alleged enemies either were executed or dispatched to concentration camps."

Or Louisiana.

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Stephanie Hobbs's avatar

Unbadged hoodlums. This is just the beginning. 😡😡😡

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Alice B Toklas's avatar

Thanks Evan. I just went to CaNazi Mission’s website and sent them I message that I’m a Netanyahu hater, gave them my address, told them to come and get me, but be prepared to get the living shit kicked out of them by a 73-year old white male pacifist. Fuck them.

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Anti-Social Socialist's avatar

I feel like we've all seen enough dystopian media to know that when cops start hiding their identity, we've entered the "bad" phase.

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"M"'s avatar
Mar 27Edited

Then people should have recognized it the last time it happened when Donald Trump had Bill Barr call for it four years ago

https://youtu.be/45vWugZACMk?si=3paiu80IfIuJt2BM

and gotten out of denial

*This* is what we're up against now

https://youtu.be/Ahv3IKzMdHA?si=LqHP204gDEjevN8L

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Dang's avatar

Forbes headline:

“Tufts Student Detained”

Really?

That’s what that was?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/03/27/what-we-know-about-rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-student-detained-by-ice/

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The Blessed Reverend's avatar

or, you could say, 'disappeared'

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"M"'s avatar

Yes.

Because the billionaires who own that outlet love Donald's apartheid terrorist "policies".

Which are also Elon Musk's and Peter Thiel's apartheid terrorist "policies".

https://youtu.be/Ahv3IKzMdHA?si=6h1FMPWwruo6ycaF

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Bagels of Doom's avatar

"Elon Musk urging Germans to get over their country’s “past guilt” already."

Awesome business strategery there! Tesla sales in Germany tell the entire story.

Also, fuck off, apartheid-nepo-baby.

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"M"'s avatar

There is more detailed background here on the apartheid and neo-Nazi background, including family members, on the dude who's peddling that crap rhetoric

https://youtu.be/Ahv3IKzMdHA?si=6h1FMPWwruo6ycaF

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Bagels of Doom's avatar

Thanks!

"Musk lived what can only be described as a neocolonial life," said McGreal. "If you were a white South African in that period and you had any money at all, you lived with servants at your beck and call."

This right here is all of it in a nutshell.

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Goonemeritus's avatar

I don't have any tattoos, but I do have a scarf that is in the colors of the Mexican flag sent to me by Modelo celebrating Mexico's National football team. I figure I should be deported any day now.

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

Funny how these ICE goons are wearing masks while Krasnov is making it illegal for for college students to wear face masks.

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"M"'s avatar

I don’t know why you would have expected anything from these people other than the most rank hypocrisy

https://youtu.be/Ahv3IKzMdHA?si=6h1FMPWwruo6ycaF

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Goonemeritus's avatar

" Are we the baddies"?

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simpledinosaur's avatar

Good old Mitchell & Webb.

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