To help understand the wider movement to institute a Christian theocracy, people should read up on not just Christian Nationalism but Christian Dominionism and specifically, the Seven Mountain Mandate. The American Evangelical movement and the citizens who are involved in it have had theocracy as a goal for 50 years or more.
The last time I heard Natural Law mentioned was the Natural Law Party in the UK, who believed that yogic flying would cure the world's ills and who numbered George Harrison in their followers. They got more newspaper articles than votes, but livened up the 1992 general election.
All those videos of serious faced people arse cheek hopping across the floor with their legs crossed were much more fun than party election broadcasts. My uni flatmates had a great time attempting yogic flight, some alcohol may have been involved....
LOL. It’s no surprise that the Trump campaign’s position is that every single policy change will have to go through Trump. Typical mob boss mentality. Nobody does anything without first kissing Trump’s ring, paying for his protection, then getting his blessing to proceed with the Christian nationalism. And the mere idea of a religious test for immigration or any other legislation is puzzling (and obviously horrifying), but how would you apply that? How do you “prove” you share the correct faith? Do you simply have to verbally proclaim your belief in the lord? Or sign a sworn oath? Or perform a convincing ritual, like expressing religious ecstasy or speaking in tongues? How do you prove that you believe the right things? It’s almost as if it’s impossible, absurd, and a healthy society would never require such a thing.
And Christian apologists want to complain about "why are atheists talking so much about a god and a religion they don't believe exists and don't believe is true".
It's because there are people like Vought who DO believe and are trying to get everyone else to believe, by any means necessary.
On another note, I'm not sure why I haven't seen anything about Vought wanting to bring back slavery and laws that instruct people on where to get their slaves from (neighbouring nations) and how to treat them (you can beat them till near death, but as long as they don't die within 2 days of the beating, no harm no foul). That's part of Biblical law too the ones the Israelite, whom Vought is modelling his laws after, followed. Kind of makes it less convincing that he's really taking his cues from the BIble.
When someone says "Christian nationalism", my first thoughts are the "Christian" nationalists who took over Germany in the 1930s. Also, the ones under Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, Putin, Orban, and now Trump. Seems to be a pretty strong correlation between "Christian" nationalism and fascism.
The Bible has often been a powerful tool of oppression throughout history, so it’s a convenient partner with fascism. Trump is a typical fascist, intoxicated by power and the perceived worldwide reverence and flattery it brings. And the freedom from accountability. He wants limitless, unquestioned power (as Stephen Miller told the world out loud early in Trump’s term, “his power will not be questioned.”)
Trump doesn’t have a religious bone in his burger-fed body. But he will accept support and play along with any group that helps consolidate his power. Joe Biden is a lifelong devout Roman Catholic. You’d like his faith would be respected and held in high esteem by the religious right. Instead, they embrace Trump, the twice divorced, serial abuser and adulterer. The hypocrisy is certainly apparent.
The hypocrisy is staggering when you lump the likes of Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell Jr., Richard Roberts of Oral Roberts Univ., etc. Evangelicals hold no moral high ground, that's for sure.
Biden's catholicism is most likely detested by the majority of Evangelical Christians who make up the religious right. People forget this country's history of discrimination against Catholics when they would seek public office. Evangelicals have no truck with Catholics.
2) “accept[ed] Israel’s God, laws and understanding of history,” OK, so they'll only let in Jews now? Fine by me. But what about Christians? Technically, they no longer accept or follow Israel's God or laws.
To help understand the wider movement to institute a Christian theocracy, people should read up on not just Christian Nationalism but Christian Dominionism and specifically, the Seven Mountain Mandate. The American Evangelical movement and the citizens who are involved in it have had theocracy as a goal for 50 years or more.
The last time I heard Natural Law mentioned was the Natural Law Party in the UK, who believed that yogic flying would cure the world's ills and who numbered George Harrison in their followers. They got more newspaper articles than votes, but livened up the 1992 general election.
Presumably no relation.
All those videos of serious faced people arse cheek hopping across the floor with their legs crossed were much more fun than party election broadcasts. My uni flatmates had a great time attempting yogic flight, some alcohol may have been involved....
LOL. It’s no surprise that the Trump campaign’s position is that every single policy change will have to go through Trump. Typical mob boss mentality. Nobody does anything without first kissing Trump’s ring, paying for his protection, then getting his blessing to proceed with the Christian nationalism. And the mere idea of a religious test for immigration or any other legislation is puzzling (and obviously horrifying), but how would you apply that? How do you “prove” you share the correct faith? Do you simply have to verbally proclaim your belief in the lord? Or sign a sworn oath? Or perform a convincing ritual, like expressing religious ecstasy or speaking in tongues? How do you prove that you believe the right things? It’s almost as if it’s impossible, absurd, and a healthy society would never require such a thing.
So, not expecting the Spanish Inquisition?
(The last episode of) the TV show "Shiny Happy People."
Or even "Fargo" series 5.
Oof, "Shiny Happy People" was some of the scariest shit I've seen in a long time. And their goal is being realized right under our noses.
And Christian apologists want to complain about "why are atheists talking so much about a god and a religion they don't believe exists and don't believe is true".
It's because there are people like Vought who DO believe and are trying to get everyone else to believe, by any means necessary.
On another note, I'm not sure why I haven't seen anything about Vought wanting to bring back slavery and laws that instruct people on where to get their slaves from (neighbouring nations) and how to treat them (you can beat them till near death, but as long as they don't die within 2 days of the beating, no harm no foul). That's part of Biblical law too the ones the Israelite, whom Vought is modelling his laws after, followed. Kind of makes it less convincing that he's really taking his cues from the BIble.
There ain't no "Judeo" in these folks' concept of "Judeo-Christian heritage."
Except for the stonings.
That's a version of Judeo-Christian heritage that predates Christianity, so also a problem for them.
Judeo sans Christian. Holy crap, it's all JEWS!!!!
I try to keep hatred out of my heart, but I loathe, detest, and despise Dominionists. If I could, I'd make Dominionism illegal. Everywhere.
Frankly I'm not even bothering to try anymore. These assholes have been on my case since I was in high school. I hate them.
When someone says "Christian nationalism", my first thoughts are the "Christian" nationalists who took over Germany in the 1930s. Also, the ones under Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, Putin, Orban, and now Trump. Seems to be a pretty strong correlation between "Christian" nationalism and fascism.
The Bible has often been a powerful tool of oppression throughout history, so it’s a convenient partner with fascism. Trump is a typical fascist, intoxicated by power and the perceived worldwide reverence and flattery it brings. And the freedom from accountability. He wants limitless, unquestioned power (as Stephen Miller told the world out loud early in Trump’s term, “his power will not be questioned.”)
Trump doesn’t have a religious bone in his burger-fed body. But he will accept support and play along with any group that helps consolidate his power. Joe Biden is a lifelong devout Roman Catholic. You’d like his faith would be respected and held in high esteem by the religious right. Instead, they embrace Trump, the twice divorced, serial abuser and adulterer. The hypocrisy is certainly apparent.
The hypocrisy is staggering when you lump the likes of Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell Jr., Richard Roberts of Oral Roberts Univ., etc. Evangelicals hold no moral high ground, that's for sure.
Biden's catholicism is most likely detested by the majority of Evangelical Christians who make up the religious right. People forget this country's history of discrimination against Catholics when they would seek public office. Evangelicals have no truck with Catholics.
Of course they're not PREPARING. They prefer their shitshows SPONTANEOUS.
Anyone check that guy from the office of refugee and resettlement who kept a spreadsheet of women’s periods?
1) There is NO "Judeo" in "Judeo-Christian."
2) “accept[ed] Israel’s God, laws and understanding of history,” OK, so they'll only let in Jews now? Fine by me. But what about Christians? Technically, they no longer accept or follow Israel's God or laws.
"he wants tough immigration restrictions that would limit it to people who have “accept[ed] Israel’s God, laws and understanding of history”
So he's good as far as thousands of devoutly Christian migrants at the Southern border?
"invoking the term to try to scare people"
Heavens, we wouldn't want to invoke terms to scare people.
"’Christian nationalism’ is actually a rather benign and useful description"
Real "I thought Monster Island was just a name" energy here.
Gotta allow the Blond hair and blue eyed fellers to rule the world, eh? Pure GOP/Hitler fantasy.
Only Christians say “Judeo-Christian.”
And only a subset of Christians.