And liberal democracy sides with adaptable family models, while Christian democracy rests on the foundations of the Christian family model; once more, this is an illiberal concept.
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Oh yes, "traditional Biblical marriage." By all means, let's talk about Biblical marriages.
If PAB has this fool-proof peace plan, it's morally reprehensible that he doesn't share it with Biden now, instead of waiting while more people die until maybe he's in office in 6 months. He's willing to explain it to Orban. If Biden won't listen to this fabulous plan, then he should go public. Keeping it under his hat is downright criminal. /s
Why I should have to live according to what another religion believes? Or what ANY religion believes?
I'm not bashing religion per se; I try to live up to the ethics of my religion. However, trying to force one certain religion, or a certain sect of that religion, onto a country is not only illiberal, but can only lead to violence. (Thirty Year's War anyone?)
Ta, Marcie. More of us DO want democracy, and are more than willing to fight to keep it. We will demonstrate our true strength when we VOTE in November.
It's kinda funny - PAB makes a big thing about how many NATO countries don't pay enough - which, of course, is not how it works. The goal is for each NATO country to spend at least 2% of the GDP on defense.
Guess what? PAB's boy, Orban, lets his country get away with spending only 1.5% of its GDP on military expenditures ( through 2022, based on World Bank figures ). The highest percentage spent on Hungary's military was in 2020, at a whopping 1.75%. Does PAB grill Orban about this and tell him his country isn't paying enough?
Whenever Trump or any other MAGAt says this war never should have started, I have to ask, who do they think started it?
Usually, they’ll repeat some bullshit about Putin feeling threatened and surrounded with missiles on his doorstop which is complete bullshit for so many reasons.
my response to that is (i have some 'think they're smart right wingers' in my family) 'so your neighbor's an ass who pisses you off, therefore you get to break down his fence, eat his dog, rape his wife and take his children back to your house?'
Why must democracy be “Christian” at all, FFS?! And as for the “Christian family model”, he’s kissing the ring at Mar-a-Lardo of a twice-divorced serial adulterer and adjudicated rapist with 5 children from 3 different mothers. (Two of whom were fucking immigrants!) They just keep telling on themselves don’t they?
Regarding: "And former Rep. Dennis Kucinich, whom I understand a lot of you old hippies used to love,"
As far as I can tell Kucinich did one really awesome thing in his life, in the 1970s when he successfully stood up to the mafia who threatened his life for not selling Cleveland's public power system (he was mayor then).
> while Christian democracy is anti-immigration; this is again a genuinely illiberal concept
Pretty sure it's an anti-Christian concept too. While the Bible might be fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps, it's pretty clear about loving the immigrant.
I'm all for NATO/OTAN stripping Hungary of membership, giving it to Ukraine and letting Putti know that Hungary is full of Nazis and that he can take all of it he wants.
Two wretched spawns of Hell speak of Jesus Christ. May their tongues burst into flame.
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And liberal democracy sides with adaptable family models, while Christian democracy rests on the foundations of the Christian family model; once more, this is an illiberal concept.
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Oh yes, "traditional Biblical marriage." By all means, let's talk about Biblical marriages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
(Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage to Everyone Else)
If PAB has this fool-proof peace plan, it's morally reprehensible that he doesn't share it with Biden now, instead of waiting while more people die until maybe he's in office in 6 months. He's willing to explain it to Orban. If Biden won't listen to this fabulous plan, then he should go public. Keeping it under his hat is downright criminal. /s
WTAF DOJ? This is a serious felony!
Fuck Kucinich. He's lost his fucking mind.
Why I should have to live according to what another religion believes? Or what ANY religion believes?
I'm not bashing religion per se; I try to live up to the ethics of my religion. However, trying to force one certain religion, or a certain sect of that religion, onto a country is not only illiberal, but can only lead to violence. (Thirty Year's War anyone?)
Ta, Marcie. More of us DO want democracy, and are more than willing to fight to keep it. We will demonstrate our true strength when we VOTE in November.
It really is sad about Kucinich. Back in the day he was more progressive than Sanders...
It's kinda funny - PAB makes a big thing about how many NATO countries don't pay enough - which, of course, is not how it works. The goal is for each NATO country to spend at least 2% of the GDP on defense.
Guess what? PAB's boy, Orban, lets his country get away with spending only 1.5% of its GDP on military expenditures ( through 2022, based on World Bank figures ). The highest percentage spent on Hungary's military was in 2020, at a whopping 1.75%. Does PAB grill Orban about this and tell him his country isn't paying enough?
Link: https://tradingeconomics.com/hungary/military-expenditure-percent-of-gdp-wb-data.html
Whenever Trump or any other MAGAt says this war never should have started, I have to ask, who do they think started it?
Usually, they’ll repeat some bullshit about Putin feeling threatened and surrounded with missiles on his doorstop which is complete bullshit for so many reasons.
Some twitchy ultra lefties make the same argument- that Putin was “provoked” by the expanding appeal of nato. Ugh.
my response to that is (i have some 'think they're smart right wingers' in my family) 'so your neighbor's an ass who pisses you off, therefore you get to break down his fence, eat his dog, rape his wife and take his children back to your house?'
Why must democracy be “Christian” at all, FFS?! And as for the “Christian family model”, he’s kissing the ring at Mar-a-Lardo of a twice-divorced serial adulterer and adjudicated rapist with 5 children from 3 different mothers. (Two of whom were fucking immigrants!) They just keep telling on themselves don’t they?
A good chunk of Europe is fond of Christian party brandings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_democracy
Interesting. Thank you!
Neither the European or Latin American Christian Democrat parties tend towards Nat C-ism. There's where the US differs.
Regarding: "And former Rep. Dennis Kucinich, whom I understand a lot of you old hippies used to love,"
As far as I can tell Kucinich did one really awesome thing in his life, in the 1970s when he successfully stood up to the mafia who threatened his life for not selling Cleveland's public power system (he was mayor then).
He has been living off of that ever since.
Kucinich blew his last shred of goodwill when he became a Fox Democrat.
Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader can both get into a small rocket and fuck off into the sun forever.
Oh gawd Kucinich. Holy crap.
I remember when he was the fresh progressive flavor!
So I wonder how much intelligence changed hands here between spies. Also do cutouts get their own turndown service?
Apparently Putin and his surrogates are the force that's kept the Republican party as "alive" as it is.
> while Christian democracy is anti-immigration; this is again a genuinely illiberal concept
Pretty sure it's an anti-Christian concept too. While the Bible might be fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps, it's pretty clear about loving the immigrant.
I'm all for NATO/OTAN stripping Hungary of membership, giving it to Ukraine and letting Putti know that Hungary is full of Nazis and that he can take all of it he wants.
Fuck Orban and PAB and Fuck Ted Cruz.
I'm sure there are innocent people in Hungary we'd want to help...